would you agree?

[Hugo Chavez]

Over the last hundred years, the daily lives of Americans have become more and more subject to corporations?  That is, over time, we can't nearly do as many things without entering one or more corporate domains?  And as we see more and more things privatized, it's still becoming greater every day?


But hell, in 20 years, if you don't like it, well, fuck your rights, you can stay at home or go it alone in the Alaskan wilderness.

[Soul Crusher]

Over the last hundred years, the daily lives of Americans have become more and more subject to corporations?  That is, over time, we can't nearly do as many things without entering one or more corporate domains?  And as we see more and more things privatized, it's still becoming greater every day?


But hell, in 20 years, if you don't like it, well, fuck your rights, you can stay at home or go it alone in the Alaskan wilderness.

1.  Go read the "Creature from Jekyll Island"

2.  How is your life "more subject to corporations"?  I can see insurance for sure but how else?

3.  Why are you not as outrages as the fact that the govt on all levels has far more control than the "corporations" ? 
 

[boonasty]

aren't you happy some corporations exist?

which corporations are evil?

[Soul Crusher]

1.  OK, when I get around to it.

2.  What I'm saying is that the domain of corporations is greater today and continues to become greater so as time goes along, one is able to do less without crossing into corporate domains.  That's a simple fact, not sure it's debatable, it just is.


3.  Forgetting the fact that the corporations have much more influence on government than the people.  This is another thing I'm not sure is debatable

Debatable?  Its insanely wrong on every level. 

Like I said, other than insurance which the govt mandates you purchase for auto or health, how are you "subject to corporations"?

[Soul Crusher]

not the point I'm addressing.  Just establishing the point.  Is it true that as time has gone along, the domain of corporations has increased and is increasing?  But yes, there are evil corporations.  Hi Monsanto, but not my purpose in this thread.

Than grow your own food or from local people and STFU. 

[BM OUT]

1.  OK, when I get around to it.

2.  What I'm saying is that the domain of corporations is greater today and continues to become greater so as time goes along, one is able to do less without crossing into corporate domains.  That's a simple fact, not sure it's debatable, it just is.


3.  Forgetting the fact that the corporations have much more influence on government than the people.  This is another thing I'm not sure is debatable

If only corportations ran everything including our inept government.Perhaps the government would make a profit if Apple ran it instead of the dopes that run it now.

[Soul Crusher]

If only corportations ran everything including our inept government.Perhaps the government would make a profit if Apple ran it instead of the dopes that run it now.

The so called "evil corporations", other than those favored by the govt, fail unless they provide a service or good the public wants at the offered the price.  

The govt on the hand jails you if you dont comply with its garbage.  

[Hugo Chavez]

If only corportations ran everything including our inept government.Perhaps the government would make a profit if Apple ran it instead of the dopes that run it now.

They do run the government.  Most legislation that gets passed is influenced directly by corporations and often written by them.

[Hugo Chavez]

The so called "evil corporations", other than those favored by the govt, fail unless they provide a service or good the public wants at the offered the price.  

The govt on the hand jails you if you dont comply with its garbage.  

man, you are one naive sombitch....

[Soul Crusher]

right, just like I said, if you don't like it, take off and go live in the Alaskan wilderness.  3333, you shut the fuck up.  By the rightwing understanding of things, I've earned the right to speak my mind more than you or have you served?

     

You can speak your mind, no one is stopping you from that.  

As far as the thread is concerned like I said, what corporations do you feel "subjected to."  I agree on insurance and banks, but what else.  

[Soul Crusher]

man, you are one naive sombitch....

Right, cuz MickeyD's is sending out the cops to lock me up when I choose Wendy's. 

 

[Hugo Chavez]

   

You can speak your mind, no one is stopping you from that.  

As far as the thread is concerned like I said, what corporations do you feel "subjected to."  I agree on insurance and banks, but what else.  

you're still missing my point so neverfucking mind.  Once again we'll go the path you want.  Since you want to continue down this path, once again, the corporations and big bankers have far more influence over government than the people.  In that respect, we're all "subject to" corporations and bankers more than representives serving the people.

and if I can speak my mind, don't fucking tell me to STFU.

[BM OUT]

They do run the government.  Most legislation that gets passed is influenced directly by corporations and often written by them.

The way the government works is NOTHING like a coporation works.Coporations have to make a profit,the government just prints more.Bad ideas in buisiness are weeded out because of profit.Here is a bet.If you put nothing in the government except CEOs and buisiness people and got rid of the fool ass pointy headed intellectuals and lawyers,we would be a hell of a lot better off.

[Soul Crusher]

you're still missing my point so neverfucking mind.  Once again we'll go the path you want.  Since you want to continue down this path, once again, the corporations and big bankers have far more influence over government than the people.  In that respect, we're all "subject to" corporations and bankers more than representives serving the people.

and if I can speak my mind, don't fucking tell me to STFU.

Than say the banks and we are on the same page.  However, the term "corporation" applies to everyone from resturants, energy, health care, professional services, etc.  

[boonasty]

not the point I'm addressing.  Just establishing the point.  Is it true that as time has gone along, the domain of corporations has increased and is increasing?  But yes, there are evil corporations.  Hi Monsanto, but not my purpose in this thread.

from the videos you posted on monsanto, i agree yes they look pretty evil.
  
i just don't understand where people are anti-corporation when you have wal-mart, walgreens, kroger, catepillar, coke, ford, walgreens +++ hundreds more companies that make shit we want and need and that employ millions of people keeping this economy going.  

[Hugo Chavez]

The way the government works is NOTHING like a coporation works.Coporations have to make a profit,the government just prints more.Bad ideas in buisiness are weeded out because of profit.Here is a bet.If you put nothing in the government except CEOs and buisiness people and got rid of the fool ass pointy headed intellectuals and lawyers,we would be a hell of a lot better off.

uh, yea, that's nice.  Has nothing to do with what we were talking about.  Fact is Corporations have more pull with our government than the people do.  Nothing you just said addresses what so many have clearly exposed for years and years.  Even this healthcare shit, as 333 and others exposed, it turns out to be largely at the behest of corporations that will benefit.  The insurance companies are going to cash in and again as 333 exposed quite some time ago, they were very involved in what the final outcome was to be from the start.  Smart investors see it, why else are certain involved stocks going up.

[Hugo Chavez]

from the videos you posted on monsanto, i agree yes they look pretty evil.
  
i just don't understand where people are anti-corporation when you have wal-mart, walgreens, kroger, catepillar, coke, ford, walgreens +++ hundreds more companies that make shit we want and need and that employ millions of people keeping this economy going.  

I admit being a sucker for Coke.  I love that shit more than it loves me.  Can't drink much of it without it killing my kidneys for some reason.  So yea, I'm a fan of some corporations, but not really a fan of corporations being considered a person.  There are so many things wrong with that, I could go on and on with it.

[Hugo Chavez]

but lol that nobody could admit or idenity the reality that less can be done today without entering one or more corporate domains.  Not one person could say, yea, true what's your point

[Soul Crusher]

but lol that nobody could admit or idenity the reality that less can be done today without entering one or more corporate domains.  Not one person could say, yea, true what's your point

What about the Amish? 

[Fury]

How could less be done? What exactly was done 100 years ago that can't be done today without a corporation? Most of the luxuries we enjoy today weren't around then. There was no TV. No internet. No movies. Nothing. People went to work, came home and ate before going to bed and repeated. So what exactly has changed in the last 100 years? You mean these corporations are offering you luxuries that YOU choose to take full advantage of? You can live like they did 100 years ago. Move to Alaska and make just enough to get by while living in your shack. Or somewhere in bumfucksville, Montana. Maybe you can listen to the radio for a bit before bed every night or read a book.

People who bitch about corporations while taking full advantage of everything they offer crack me up.

[Hugo Chavez]

How could less be done? What exactly was done 100 years ago that can't be done today without a corporation? Most of the luxuries we enjoy today weren't around then. There was no TV. No internet. No movies. Nothing. People went to work, came home and ate before going to bed and repeated. So what exactly has changed in the last 100 years? You mean these corporations are offering you luxuries that YOU choose to take full advantage of? You can live like they did 100 years ago. Move to Alaska and make just enough to get by while living in your shack. Or somewhere in bumfucksville, Montana. Maybe you can listen to the radio for a bit before bed every night or read a book.

People who bitch about corporations while taking full advantage of everything they offer crack me up.

I wasn't talking about less being done.  I was talking what percentage of what's done is in the corporate domain and that it's increasing.  Today, in your daily activities or whatever you do, you're more likely to do it crossing into corporate domains to get it done.  That's just a simple fact.  I didn't even get to a point yet.  First wanted to see if people could admit that much, otherwise any point made is well, pointless so I won't go there if people can't see that first..

[boonasty]

I wasn't talking about less being done.  I was talking what percentage of what's done is in the corporate domain and that it's increasing.  Today, in your daily activities or whatever you do, you're more likely to do it crossing into corporate domains to get it done.  That's just a simple fact.  I didn't even get to a point yet.  First wanted to see if people could admit that much, otherwise any point made is well, pointless so I won't go there if people can't see that first..

yes i agree.  

woke up from nice bed sheets made by a corporation
had coffee made by a corporation
took a huge shit on a toilet made by a corporation
wipe with corporation toilet paper and that's all before going to work or the corporate gym

i think we agree other than like 3333 said the amish may not agree.

[Hugo Chavez]

ok fellas, nevermind.

why would people need to even bring up silly things like a passenger bill of rights....  dumbasses...

So as we go along and more and more roads and other services become privatized and of course the corporations do not have the same obligations to the people in regards to rights, I promise not to bring it up when everything you do or say is in the corporate domain.

You'll still have the option of going into the wilderness, if you miss the constitution and government by the people for the people, where you can spend your time yelling at a rock.  Just don't call your rock Wilson.  That name is taken.

[Soul Crusher]

Hugo if you are not happy about what you perceive as being the "evil corporations" subjecting your life, you are free to lead the life of a pioneer in the wildnerness.  No one is stopping you from that.

Additionally, you have many choices not to patronize those corps you believe are evil.    

[Hugo Chavez]

Hugo if you are not happy about what you perceive as being the "evil corporations" subjecting your life, you are free to lead the life of a pioneer in the wildnerness.  No one is stopping you from that.

Additionally, you have many choices not to patronize those corps you believe are evil.    

Wow, where did you come up with that brilliant comeback?  Me?  Ever think that I mentioned it right away because I knew that would be the silly retort most likely used by dimwits?  Or as usual did you not read my posts?

I know one thing, you quite intentionally missed my preparatory points if you did read them.