Steroid users are pretty much as disgusting as Junkies are

[Van_Bilderass]

Come on Bob, don't deny that Escobar, the Hells Angels and the Mafia all have huge steroid rackets that account for over half their wealth. Any money you ever spent on gear lined there pockets directly

To be fair, "the mafia" and biker gangs are known to be involved in steroid/gh distribution at times. An example that comes to mind is the theft of 60,000 amps of Norditropin Growth Hormone in Denmark.
http://www.cphpost.dk/news/1-latest-news/3191.html

And who was that Mexican drug lord that was involved in steroid manufacturing with Duchaine?

And hasn't the Russian Mafia been involved in moving steroids to NY?

If there's money to be made why wouldn't organized crime be involved?

[Mussolini]

To be fair, "the mafia" and biker gangs are known to be involved in steroid/gh distribution at times. An example that comes to mind is the theft of 60,000 amps of Norditropin Growth Hormone in Denmark.
http://www.cphpost.dk/news/1-latest-news/3191.html

And who was that Mexican drug lord that was involved in steroid manufacturing with Duchaine?

And hasn't the Russian Mafia been involved in moving steroids to NY?

If there's money to be made why wouldn't organized crime be involved?

Sure they are involved in almost all sorts of crime but comparing gear to heroin in absurd.



I doubt steroids and GH even account for 1% of there wealth.  Like I said before I believe stark and his dvd pirating supports organised crime more than buying/selling gear.


Lets see a source on your Duchain claim and the Russian mafia moving gear in NY.

[Mussolini]

LOL...yeah...and how about all those "steroid houses" that the cops are always busting?

Yah there was an episode of DEA on last night and they raided a few Deca houses Had to call in the SWAT team and launch a few rounds of tear gas before they raided the place. You know how those Deca tweakers can be when they feel cornered.

[marty31672]

Now before you jump on the bandwagon and hate me let me explain.
So I was thinking today, I know some people that are fully able to keep a steady job even have a career and at the same time shoot up once a weekend.
Heroin isn’t necessarily deadly what kills the junkies is not the heroin as such but instead the shit that is mixed into the heroin to stretch it, that and the way of life a junkie has kills a lot, many Junkies die actually not from an overdose but from infections which are left unattended and because they simply don’t eat and therefore weakening their immune system – heroin in its purest form is not deadly when used in normal doses.

Steroids  usage is drug usage and unless being used to treat an illness and is medically prescribed is equally disgusting as heroin usage, think about it, some of you shoot up a foreign substance in your Body (in a lot of cases contaminated substance) simply for the fact to look better, a junkie shoots up heroin to feel better.
By looking better you also feel better and I have heard time and time again that the usage of steroids makes you also feel better – increase in sex drive and such.
So why are we so quick to look down on junkies or anybody buying and shooting up heroin and tend to idolize people that have an equal disgusting drug habit for no medical purpose what so ever – many of today’s Bodybuilders and gym rats are equally rotten inside and have serious health problems – not everything that shines is indeed gold.
And let me remind you all, anybody who buys or distributes illegal substances is part of a criminal organization, so as much as the junkies in most cases unwillingly supports the drug cartels be it in Afghanistan or Columbia or Mexico or were ever, a steroids dealer and the person who buys from a steroid dealer is part of the same network and is equally as guilty that these brutal syndicates that kill extort and have a stranglehold on our society (which costs law abiding citizens like myself a great deal of tax money) are still part and probably will always be part of this world.

The only reasonable explanation for steroid usage for anybody who does not need it on a medical sense I can find is that most of you guys who use Steroids are unable to think into the future – the phrase – I cross that bridge when I come to it springs to mind – it’s a narrow minded way of living which you can observe with many people not only steroid users, the aspect of “It only happens to others I am more careful” can be observed with a lot of people.

I think any one of you should have a hard look at yourself for 2010.

junkies abuse drugs only for the sake of self pleasure
bodybuilders on the other hand us it to increase their athletic performance
its hard for an athlete to complete at the top level of the sport of bodybuilding without having an edge

[Van_Bilderass]

Lets see a source on your Duchain claim and the Russian mafia moving gear in NY.

I can't remember or find the name of the Mexican. It was some dude who was killed a few years later, IIRC.

It was Duchaine who said Russian Mafia moved steroids. Of course, this is a decade old stuff:

most steroids coming into this country are smuggled here from Russia by the Russian Mafia in Brighton Beach, Brooklyn.

http://www.musclenet.com/danduchaine.htm

Yah there was an episode of DEA on last night and they raided a few Deca houses Had to call in the SWAT team and launch a few rounds of tear gas before they raided the place. You know how those Deca tweakers can be when they feel cornered.

Here in Sweden there was a raid a few weeks ago involving 300 police officers. The Swedish equivalent of SWAT was involved too as they busted in on people at dawn. IFBB Pro Martin Kjellstrom was one victim.

40 arrested in major drug raid

Released today. 13:11

Police arrested on Wednesday morning 40 people in a major drug raid. The study shows a country-wide organized activities to turn a lot of money.




On Wednesday morning, beating the police at nine locations in Sweden - Malmö, Gothenburg, Karlstad, Örebro, Eskilstuna, Stockholm, Sollefteå, Örnsköldsvik and Umeå.

In total, around 300 police officers and a large number of officials from the Prosecutor's Office, Customs, Tax and Bailiffs involved in raids.

The action is known as "Operation" Liquid "and described as a national effort against serious doping offenses. The operation was carried out under the government's mission in the fight against serious organized crime, according to a press release from police.

Raids across the country will have "hedged asset or property financed by crime" and police say they have made "substantial and significant seizure" of searches.

- Large quantities of doping substances have been seized, but also money, computers and documents, says Christer Johansson, spokeswoman for police in Västernorrland, for DN.se.

The background to the country-wide operation goes back to last spring when a customs officer discovered a mysterious package at the airport. The package turned out to contain a large amount of growth hormones.

- Since the package was intended for a receiver in Västernorrland as was the case over to the narcotics police here in Sundsvall, who then ran the investigation with Customs.

During the summer, the investigation grew and after a few months, associated more police units in.

- We heard about other traders through, inter alia, interception. The investigation became more and more widespread - in the end was all over Sweden involved with ramifications in Europe.

Before the raid on Wednesday arrested 40 people in its absence. Subsequently conducted house searches and arrests at nine locations in Sweden during the morning hours. The greatest effort is reported to have been made in Karlstad, Orebro and Umeå. Of the 40 people who were arrested on Wednesday was about ten residents of Örebro and Karlstad, nine men and four women arrested. Classification of offenses are drug offenses. According to police, most of those arrested bodybuilders.

Investigative material shows an organized and extensive business dealing in illegal substances across the country. The activity is reported to have translated the large amounts of money.

Police said additional arrests may be commenced and a number of people will be allowed for questioning.

During Operation bottle, the National Police worked with the Swedish police. Those arrested were part of an organization that was operating from Spain, where they provided illegal doping substances and materials to manufacture the products, which are then distributed via courier companies.

Detectives conducted several searches in both countries that, in addition to the doses of steroids, € 2,500,000 in cash was intercepted and 40 bank accounts in Sweden were frozen.

The Spanish police operation had the support and expertise from the Spanish Agency of Medicines and Health Products, Health inspectors also sport anti-doping authorities.

Police seized more than 2,500 doses of anabolic steroids, 6,400 doses of growth hormones, 300,000 diet pills, 600,000 ampoules and vials and 400 kilos of raw material for the manufacture of the steroids.

The Interior Ministry signed an agreement with the Secretary of State for Sport in order to strengthen the fight against such criminal methods.

http://www.barcelonareporter.com/index.php?/news/comments/spains_national_police_seize_five_million_doses_of_steroids_on_its_way_to_e/

[marty31672]

LOL...yeah...and how about all those "steroid houses" that the cops are always busting?

i havent heard of steroid houses b4, can you provide me with a link rob?

[wes mantooth]

be sure not to forget the fact Al queda has a fckn link to his website on their forum and al-jerira website as well

fckn douchebag sponsers more terror networks and info sharing of insurgents

but let me buy some deca from a paki and hell go by a HK UMP with the 'funds'  

seriously! this guy is crying about the seedy element of steroids , yet is indirectly involved with terrorists

[Mussolini]

I can't remember or find the name of the Mexican. It was some dude who was killed a few years later, IIRC.

It was Duchaine who said Russian Mafia moved steroids. Of course, this is a decade old stuff:

http://www.musclenet.com/danduchaine.htm

Here in Sweden there was a raid a few weeks ago involving 300 police officers. The Swedish equivalent of SWAT was involved too as they busted in on people at dawn. IFBB Pro Martin Kjellstrom was one victim.
http://www.barcelonareporter.com/index.php?/news/comments/spains_national_police_seize_five_million_doses_of_steroids_on_its_way_to_e/

So you are trying to argue that steroid dealing is one of the more lucrative trades of the Russian mafia and other crime syndicates?


Right, forget selling coke, H or meth, extortion, gambling, prostitution, porn ext. Steroids is where these groups make the $


this guy almost as dellusional as Stark for gods sake.

[Van_Bilderass]

Sure they are involved in almost all sorts of crime but comparing gear to heroin in absurd.



I doubt steroids and GH even account for 1% of there wealth.  

Of course there's more money in rec drugs. But imagine the profit in selling 60,000 30 or 45iu amps of GH (had they been successful)! 

So you are trying to argue that steroid dealing is one of the more lucrative trades of the Russian mafia and other crime syndicates?


Right, forget selling coke, H or meth, extortion, gambling, prostitution, porn ext. Steroids is where these groups make the $


this guy almost as dellusional as Stark for gods sake.

Of course I'm not. I was only commenting on you saying the Mafia and biker gangs are never involved in moving PEDs.

[Van_Bilderass]

The "Mexican" (Panamanian) I was thinking of was Manuel Noriega.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manuel_Noriega

http://www.nytimes.com/1989/12/03/world/noriega-linked-to-steroid-smuggling-mexico-says.html?pagewanted=1

Pretty heavy organized crime figure, no?

[Stark]

You can argue as much as you want you can call me silly stupid retarded or a troll - all I am doing is, I share my opinion.
And of course I am fully aware that my opinion when it comes down to Steroids is not a popular one, I truly believe that
Steroidsusage as of right now has to stop, I dont think it is good for the sport - powerlifting - bodybuilding any sport were
your throw around weight.

not one of you could or did explain to me how you are ok with buying an illegal substance on the black market which in return
gives money to at times very shady ogranisation - and I am including you Bob on this list too - especialy you since you of
all people should have debated this better then simply laugh it off, on the other hand I can also understand why you cannot
talk about your past and present drug usage.

Its mindboggling to me that getbig is in an uproar when they hear that an illegal steroid lab has been busted - but are all in union
when it comes on deathpenalties on smack dealers, I say it one more time: EITHER STEROIDS OR SMACK - THE MONEY GOES TO THE
SAME PEOPLE.

And when you buy Steroids illegaly - you are part of it - its an uncomfortable truth but it IS the truth, never mind how much you
guys laugh it off or how much you find some weak excuses, it..is..the..truth.

[Stark]

LOL...yeah...and how about all those "steroid houses" that the cops are always busting?

you're a dumbass, you always want to sound so intelligent and well spoken but post like these show me that
you are in fact a simpleton.

[CalvinH]

Well this thread has turned out well.

[Palpatine Q]

Every drug dealer i know can get you steroids. They are DRUG DEALERS.....hello.

[Spike]

Every drug dealer i know can get you steroids. They are DRUG DEALERS.....hello.

dollars to doughnuts the kid I buy weed from knows NO ONE from the rusisian mafia and cannot get good test either

[dr.chimps]

you're a dumbass, you always want to sound so intelligent and well spoken but post like these show me that
you are in fact a simpleton.

This post tells me you lack a sense of irony. 

[MORTALCOIL]

This post tells me you lack a sense of irony. 

Maybe if you convince Stark that Chick's cool demeanor and witty approach to things (even as he gets trampled on every single thread) is caused by the irony enhancing quality of steroids, he'll jump on the sauce.

[kyomu]

heroin is used to intoxicate and numb the mind from reality

steroids are used by real men who bang real women - it doesnt impare your ability to say drive a car or take care of your kids on the weekend

YOU SOUND LIKE A LOW LEVEL COP OR A 6th GRADE HEALTH CLASS INSTRUCTOR

spoken like a true douchebag who gets shitted on and passed over by girls cause someone in your life take 'the joose' and pwns you in some aspect of your life - whether it be in the gym, when you cant get that 5th rep of 135lb off, or the 'big guy on joose, fckhaed' who banged your girlfriend

go take your prohormones and eat your chicken breats cooked in shit - while i pwn you at the gym and go grab a double cheeseburgar while your girl licks the ketcup and melted cheese off my six pak abs

you think your girl would digg my thick, muscled gh fingers???

lookin jacked

[Palpatine Q]

dollars to doughnuts the kid I buy weed from knows NO ONE from the rusisian mafia and cannot get good test either

You need to find better drug dealers  

To flip that around...i bet the guy you get gear from can get you anything else you want, if you asked him  

[CalvinH]

You need to find better drug dealers  

To flip that around...i bet the guy you get gear from can get you anything else you want, if you asked him  

It's been so long for me that I don't know any drugdealers anymore.
..and you maybe right but back in the day my friends bought their juice and drugs from different people.

[Spike]

You need to find better drug dealers  

To flip that around...i bet the guy you get gear from can get you anything else you want, if you asked him  

thats true....he cant come into the US for some past stuff but he's gotten me anything I asked for

b4 I had my script: he sent me hella xanax and valium if I paid a little xtra, nvr shipped same pak tho

[Captain Equipoise]

LOL...yeah...and how about all those "steroid houses" that the cops are always busting?

Hahahaha, yeah! I think I recognized some Organon deca the last time I watched cops bust a crack house on that DEA show.. the perpatrator's were almost able to shoot up with their Sust and Deca before the DEA busted down on them!

[Spike]

[Stark]

lolol that clip never gets old

[Spike]

lolol that clip never gets old

ur that asian kid