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NJ rejects gay marriage bill.....YES!!!
« on: January 07, 2010, 02:20:35 PM »
N.J. Senate rejects bill legalizing gay marriage
By The Star-Ledger Continuous News Desk
January 07, 2010, 4:39PM
TRENTON -- The state Senate rejected a same-sex marriage bill today, a major victory for opponents who contend the measure would damage religious freedom and is not needed because the state already permits civil unions.

The 20-14 vote defeating the measure followed an hour and a half of public debate inside the packed Senate chamber. The nearly thousand supporters and opponents of the bill held rallies on the Statehouse steps.

Statewide polls have shown New Jersey residents closely divided on same-sex marriage, and leading up to today’s vote, indicators showed a majority of the senators opposing the measure.

But momentum for the bill grew after Gov. Jon Corzine lost the November election. He has promised to sign the measure before Gov.-elect Chris Christie takes office. Christie has said he opposes the bill.

After the vote, Corzine said he was appreciative the bill was publicly debated, but was "deeply disappointed by the final tally on this common-sense measure that would have assured equal rights for all New Jerseyans."

"Most assuredly, this is an issue of civil rights and civil liberties, the foundation of our state and federal constitutions," the governor said. "Denying any group of people a fundamental human right because of who they are, or whom they love, is wrong, plain and simple."

Last month, the legislation cleared the Senate Judiciary Committee after hours of emotional debate and testimony, which set the stage for today’s full Senate showdown.

New Jersey passed a domestic partnership law in 2002 and legalized civil unions in 2006, but supporters say there are major flaws, like problems with pension benefits and hospitals denying visits to partners. They say gay couples do not have equal rights without being allowed to marry.

Just four state have legalized gay marriage, Massachusetts, Connecticut, Iowa and Vermont, while 30 states have banned it through constitutional amendments.

There were three abstentions in the vote. They were Sens. Paul Sarlo (D-Bergen), Steve Sweeney (D-Gloucester) and James Beach (D-Camden). Sen. Andrew Ciesla (R-Ocean) was not present and Sen. Diane Allen (R-Burlington) has been out sick while she fights cancer.


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Re: NJ rejects gay marriage bill.....YES!!!
« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2010, 03:31:37 PM »
Good job by New Jersey. Corzine had no business trying to push this crap on his way out.
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« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2010, 03:37:34 PM »
Armageddon is delayed yet again, LOL!

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« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2010, 04:50:59 PM »
N.J. Senate rejects bill legalizing gay marriage
By The Star-Ledger Continuous News Desk
January 07, 2010, 4:39PM
TRENTON -- The state Senate rejected a same-sex marriage bill today, a major victory for opponents who contend the measure would damage religious freedom and is not needed because the state already permits civil unions.

The 20-14 vote defeating the measure followed an hour and a half of public debate inside the packed Senate chamber. The nearly thousand supporters and opponents of the bill held rallies on the Statehouse steps.

Statewide polls have shown New Jersey residents closely divided on same-sex marriage, and leading up to today’s vote, indicators showed a majority of the senators opposing the measure.

But momentum for the bill grew after Gov. Jon Corzine lost the November election. He has promised to sign the measure before Gov.-elect Chris Christie takes office. Christie has said he opposes the bill.

After the vote, Corzine said he was appreciative the bill was publicly debated, but was "deeply disappointed by the final tally on this common-sense measure that would have assured equal rights for all New Jerseyans."

"Most assuredly, this is an issue of civil rights and civil liberties, the foundation of our state and federal constitutions," the governor said. "Denying any group of people a fundamental human right because of who they are, or whom they love, is wrong, plain and simple."

Last month, the legislation cleared the Senate Judiciary Committee after hours of emotional debate and testimony, which set the stage for today’s full Senate showdown.

New Jersey passed a domestic partnership law in 2002 and legalized civil unions in 2006, but supporters say there are major flaws, like problems with pension benefits and hospitals denying visits to partners. They say gay couples do not have equal rights without being allowed to marry.

Just four state have legalized gay marriage, Massachusetts, Connecticut, Iowa and Vermont, while 30 states have banned it through constitutional amendments.

There were three abstentions in the vote. They were Sens. Paul Sarlo (D-Bergen), Steve Sweeney (D-Gloucester) and James Beach (D-Camden). Sen. Andrew Ciesla (R-Ocean) was not present and Sen. Diane Allen (R-Burlington) has been out sick while she fights cancer.



If this hadn't happened then you would have married a man, is that right?  ::)

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Re: NJ rejects gay marriage bill.....YES!!!
« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2010, 05:03:35 PM »
Is this really a shock to anybody?

If single sex marriage wouldn't fly in California, it's not going to fly anywhere else except in a handfull of underpopulated liberal territories that are by and large meaningless to the national landscape.

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« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2010, 05:16:24 PM »
Finally some good sense!
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« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2010, 05:35:13 PM »
I can't be the only one who feels safer. :)

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Re: NJ rejects gay marriage bill.....YES!!!
« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2010, 06:10:11 PM »
How about rejecting the plague of guidos.

Whats that supposed to mean? 

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« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2010, 06:48:29 PM »
Whats that supposed to mean? 

you mad?

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Re: NJ rejects gay marriage bill.....YES!!!
« Reply #9 on: January 07, 2010, 07:16:37 PM »
Whats that supposed to mean? 

Is that a retorical question? :-\

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« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2010, 09:40:26 PM »
If this hadn't happened then you would have married a man, is that right?  ::)
whens the rally for heterosexual opposite locker rooms?

you think its ok for you to be able to stare at a person you find sexual attractive but not me? how dare you deny my liberties... >:(


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« Reply #11 on: January 07, 2010, 09:43:15 PM »
How about rejecting the plague of guidos.
honestly I would be ok with simply limiting them to New jersey/new york and not allowing them on the internet or any public access of any kind...

Ive got some frat boy friends(I was friends before they became frat boys) down here in houston and they have the same style although they dont do the whole puckering of the lips when they take pics...I think I would have to boot them in the face if I saw them do that.

Although they do seem to pull some quality tail so maybe there is something to the whole quido thing....Hmmmm

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Re: NJ rejects gay marriage bill.....YES!!!
« Reply #12 on: January 07, 2010, 10:03:09 PM »
Whats that supposed to mean? 
easy, what's more annoying?  a couple fags getting hooked up or guidos? sorry, got to go with guido's being the bigger eye sore.

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Re: NJ rejects gay marriage bill.....YES!!!
« Reply #13 on: January 08, 2010, 05:50:19 AM »
easy, what's more annoying?  a couple fags getting hooked up or guidos? sorry, got to go with guido's being the bigger eye sore.

It was a joke Hugo.  I used to be a guido.  I am from the spirtual neverce center of Guidoism, Yonkers/Bronx is where it all started. 

My first car was a white monte carlo SS, with a blue rag top, five spoke wheels, big antenna off the back, blacked out windows, racing wheel, black bra on the front, etc. 

Im the gym where I go, its loaded with these idiots.  They are all juiced up and weak as shit.  I dont touch roids and can out lift any of these punks since all they do is arms, bench, delts, and a little back.   

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« Reply #14 on: January 08, 2010, 06:49:04 AM »
It was a joke Hugo.  I used to be a guido.  I am from the spirtual neverce center of Guidoism, Yonkers/Bronx is where it all started. 

My first car was a white monte carlo SS, with a blue rag top, five spoke wheels, big antenna off the back, blacked out windows, racing wheel, black bra on the front, etc. 


Im the gym where I go, its loaded with these idiots.  They are all juiced up and weak as shit.  I dont touch roids and can out lift any of these punks since all they do is arms, bench, delts, and a little back.   

How many gold chains did you have? We won't tell. :)

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« Reply #15 on: January 08, 2010, 06:57:12 AM »
How many gold chains did you have? We won't tell. :)

Bro - I had the turtle neck with the gold name plate on the front.  Remember those things?  I had Z Cavaricci's and listend to Freestyle for awhile. 

It was a short fling with guidoism but I came back to my metal head roots very quickly. 

Where I am from you cant not flirt with it.   ;D  ;D

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Re: NJ rejects gay marriage bill.....YES!!!
« Reply #16 on: January 08, 2010, 07:04:41 AM »
If this hadn't happened then you would have married a man, is that right?  ::)

Since it didn't happen, maybe now gays like you will now realize how unnatural faggotry is and marry a woman.

Not even evolution justifies homos.

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Re: NJ rejects gay marriage bill.....YES!!!
« Reply #17 on: January 08, 2010, 07:07:04 AM »
How about rejecting the plague of guidos.

NJ can't close their border to NY.

But you are right. We need to come up with a revision that will ban both disorders.

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Re: NJ rejects gay marriage bill.....YES!!!
« Reply #18 on: January 08, 2010, 07:10:03 AM »
Since it didn't happen, maybe now gays like you will now realize how unnatural faggotry is and marry a woman.

Not even evolution justifies homos.
and end up breaking her heart because the guy is hot for her brother?!?  why ruin her life.. :o
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Re: NJ rejects gay marriage bill.....YES!!!
« Reply #19 on: January 08, 2010, 07:18:37 AM »
Since it didn't happen, maybe now gays like you will now realize how unnatural faggotry is and marry a woman.

Not even evolution justifies homos.

Homosexuality may be an evolutionary means to control population growth.

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Re: NJ rejects gay marriage bill.....YES!!!
« Reply #20 on: January 08, 2010, 08:26:15 AM »
Homosexuality may be an evolutionary means to control population growth.
No. Man evolved to be intellectual enough to create contraceptives, surgical procedures and if need be abortion. No need for pole smokers. Thanks for trying.

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Re: NJ rejects gay marriage bill.....YES!!!
« Reply #21 on: January 08, 2010, 08:37:41 AM »
No. Man evolved to be intellectually enough to create contraceptives, surgical procedures and if need be abortion. No need for pole smokers. Thanks for trying.

Most of the people you will ever meet are stupid. This is a fact.

Not talking about the merits of homosexuality itself. Evolution may have inserted a mechanism to artificially limit use of resources and increase overall survival of the species. You're simply talking about technology, none of what you've mentioned has anything to do with evolution in humans. Someone, HH6 for example, could have just as easily written "the ability to kill our neighbors and take their resources eliminates the need to consider population control in the US.". :)

I'm against changing the definition of marriage but haven't seen a rational, non-stupidreligious argument against them having something equal.

I guess the real question is why guys like you are so concerned with the activities of homosexuals. I'm not suggesting you're gay, merely wondering why you're so threatened by faggotry.

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Re: NJ rejects gay marriage bill.....YES!!!
« Reply #22 on: January 08, 2010, 08:39:32 AM »
Why would anyone be against this?

Unless you're gay, it doesn't really affect you, does it?

It's usually Religious extremists like Islamists and the like that are homophobes.

A difference between the enlightened Western Civilized world and the barbarians are that we're non-discrimating.
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« Reply #23 on: January 08, 2010, 08:46:37 AM »
Why would anyone be against this?

Unless you're gay, it doesn't really affect you, does it?

It's usually Religious extremists like Islamists and the like that are homophobes.

A difference between the enlightened Western Civilized world and the barbarians are that we're non-discrimating.

I'm wiling to entertain logical reasons why/how it might affect someone.

If the divorce rate were less than 50%, pretending they were protecting marriage or children would make sense.

In the same vein, most of the arguments I've seen for it are stupid too. Ultimately I feel the issue is primarily driven by gays who think their identity crisis will be solved if homosexuality is legitimized through changing marriage's definition. It's pretty stupid.

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Re: NJ rejects gay marriage bill.....YES!!!
« Reply #24 on: January 08, 2010, 09:27:09 AM »
The whole 'definition on marriage' thing is just the gays trying to force themselves and their behavioral problems into relevancy.