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White House Believes 'Liberal Angst' Over Healthcare Will Go Away 
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 Pride goeth before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall.

White House Believes 'Liberal Angst' Over Healthcare Will Go Away

by Donna Smith

In an NPR story this week, White House aides and Communications Director Dan Pfeiffer summed it up: (http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=12... )

White House aides believe a lot of the liberal angst about health care will go away once the president actually signs a bill. And to the extent that the Democrats have a problem motivating their core voters, they've got time to fix it.

"We're not overly concerned about these things, first and foremost because there isn't an election tomorrow, not an election the next day," says Dan Pfeiffer, White House communications director.


Our angst will not go away anytime soon.

When we see our paystubs and our tax returns reflect the collection of our hard-earned money for the huge bail-out of the for-profit, private insurance industry instead of for the guaranteed right to healthcare, we will feel angst. When we are forced to purchase the defective financial product sold to us as health insurance or face penalties or even criminal charges, we will feel angst.

When we continue to have trouble affording truly comprehensive health coverage that provides a single standard of high quality care for all, we will feel angst.

When we cannot see a doctor without paying a big co-pay or deductible, when we bury a child whose treatment was denied by the insurance company, when we avoid seeking care because we cannot afford our medicines, when our employers cut our benefits to avoid paying the excise tax, when the insurance company CEOs continue to earn mega-salaries, obscene bonuses and retire with huge golden parachutes funded by our tax subsidies, when thousands of our neighbors and friends still go bankrupt because their coverage just wasn't good enough to protect them - oh, we will feel angst.

I am sorry, Dan, this is an angst that is loaded down with intense human suffering. It isn't just political or ethical or intellectual bantering angst. It is very real human angst caused by those with prideful, haughty attitudes who cared little about promises made and the human right to healthcare so boldly proclaimed.

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Another reason this WH really is no different than GWB.

This is no different than GWB in 2005 when he tried amnesty and though the base would come back. 

Good luck Obama - you truly are a POFS! 

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240 - will spin some bs on this. 

This is no different than what GWB did with amnesty for illegal aliens.  After that - he lost the base for good. 


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hahaha as i said all along... as rudy said on larry king this week... and as the white house is now admitting... obama will swing center come election time and win his ppl back.


of course, people here disagreed, and that is their right.

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hahaha as i said all along... as rudy said on larry king this week... and as the white house is now admitting... obama will swing center come election time and win his ppl back.


of course, people here disagreed, and that is their right.

Idiots, dupes, and morons for Obama 2012!

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both parties do it really.  just politics as usual dude.  pendulum and all that good stuff.  will be like this 100 years from now.

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both parties do it really.  just politics as usual dude.  pendulum and all that good stuff.  will be like this 100 years from now.


Unreal.  So you have no problem with this because you think its a pendulum or some stuff like that? 

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i don't have a prob with it because it's inevitable and has been happening since politics began.

i mean i could have a prob with it, but it won't change anything.

i also have a problem with meteors falling from sky, rainy days and engines on my truck that wear out.  but it's inevitable.

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they're 100% pissed today.  that will be 60% pissed in six months.  And 20% pissed in 3 years.... if that...

Toss in a right-wing, anti-abortion candidate who takes the bible literally and you'll have every maddow and olbermann peeing down their own legs to rally the anti-repub vote come 2012.

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they're 100% pissed today.  that will be 60% pissed in six months.  And 20% pissed in 3 years.... if that...

Toss in a right-wing, anti-abortion candidate who takes the bible literally and you'll have every maddow and olbermann peeing down their own legs to rally the anti-repub vote come 2012.

Yeah, when UE is 11.5% people are really going to care about that.  240 - I serious dont get you.  To you, it seems as though nothing matters so long as the political game is played well. 

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well i am a fan of politics.  i can admire mccain picking a palin to seduce 18 million 'cracks', sexually repressed men, and of course, bible thumpers - despite her being unqualified.

I can admire obama toppling the rove and clinton machines.  I can admire anyone who is shrewd and plays the game well.

My side is libertarian and 'true' sensible republicans, but i can admire the others as well.


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actually, if it was at 11.5% UE.... I think people would become used to it very quickly.

Hell, we're not complaining as gas hits $3 now... because we've been conditioned to accept anything less than $4 to be acceptable.

I think gold confidence will shake (see that rumor samson posted?) and dollar will bounce back, which will help things.  And yes, even if it's at 11.5% in 2012, I don't think that will completely cost obama the election.  Heck, it could drop down to 8.75% tomorrow and they'd all be dancing on the streets, thanking Obama for the good work... LMAO...

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Celente describes it exactly about the democrat party from about 27 minutes in.  


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good post.

240 is a libertarian as Barry is. 

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yeah, i can admire a politician who plays the politics game well.

i know that 70% of the dem platform is BS.  And I know that 30% of the repub platform is BS.  And I know they both work for rich people.

Some people are closed-minded, and think any compliment to a party means you're knee-padding for them.  Obama didn't get my vote and neither did Mccain.   I'm the guy talking NFL playoffs when my own team the Bucs is in the draft lottery.  I don't *love* any of the 8 teams left, but I still watch closely and love every minute of it.  I still root for ray lewis to knock tom brady's pretty block off, and I still root against Aaron Rodgers cause I hate his beard.  Am I kneepadding for the ravens?  Nah.

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look, I may be wrong, just my opinion, but to me it seems like 240 posts a lot from an analytical point of view.  That is he is not putting his personal views into his posts as much as he is putting a removed perspective into his posts.  It's like me guessing the Chargers are going to win this week even though I don't want them to win.  If I up and say the Chargers are going to win, does that mean I'm rooting for them?  Or am I removed and making an unbiased judgement call?  I think the Chargers are going to win and I fucking hate Rivers with a passion.

zingo bingo.

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"240 is a libertarian as Barry is.  "

I don't get this.  I was wearing harry browne bumper stickers and attending libertarian meetings in 2000 when many of the getbig 'repubs' were still clinton/gore voters.

I'm pro-gun, anti-welfare, anti-criminal, anti-douchebag, anti-immigration, and I would personally cap 5 terrorists before eating a ham sandwich off their carcasses while the rest of the 'repubs' here fumbled with their cell phone calling 911 for help.  

Just because I agree with some Obama positions or actions, i'm a kneepadder.  whatever...

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"240 is a libertarian as Barry is.  "

I don't get this.  I was wearing harry browne bumper stickers and attending libertarian meetings in 2000 when many of the getbig 'repubs' were still clinton/gore voters.

I'm pro-gun, anti-welfare, anti-criminal, anti-douchebag, anti-immigration, and I would personally cap 5 terrorists before eating a ham sandwich off their carcasses while the rest of the 'repubs' here fumbled with their cell phone calling 911 for help.  

Just because I agree with some Obama positions or actions, i'm a kneepadder.  whatever...

If you agree with Barry, you are not a libertarian 240.   240 - if you wanted the stim bill you are not a libertarian.  240 - if you think we should have a health bill that involved the govt spending money for health care in any fashion as exposed you are not a libertarian. 

Being a libertarian is not a bumper sticker, its a mind set. 

You dont have it bro. 

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well i am a fan of politics.  i can admire mccain picking a palin to seduce 18 million 'cracks', sexually repressed men, and of course, bible thumpers - despite her being unqualified.
I can admire obama toppling the rove and clinton machines.  I can admire anyone who is shrewd and plays the game well.

My side is libertarian and 'true' sensible republicans, but i can admire the others as well.



Muthafuckin BOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Oh come on, that was a slam dunk and no response.

That is why Barry is trying to ram amnesty for illegals through this year. 

He knows that his kamakazi national suicide agenda is turning millions against him but figures he can convince the hapless illegals to vote for him in 2012.

Seriously, why would anyone paying taxes vote for him?  I seriously cant think of one solitary reason why anyone who pays taxes would vote for him or any democrat in 2010 or 2012.   


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"If you agree with Barry, you are not a libertarian 240. "

Disagree. 

IMO, anyone who agrees with 100% of his party platforms isn't thinking for himself.

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"If you agree with Barry, you are not a libertarian 240. "

Disagree. 

IMO, anyone who agrees with 100% of his party platforms isn't thinking for himself.

Tell me what policy you agree with of his and how is comports with your "libertarian" philosophy. 

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stimulating the economy, savings the banks to keep the dollar afloat.

true libertarian platform would have called for allowing the buck to collapse and letting us all hunt one another and rebuild things.  I'm not down for that.

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neither side can lose 4%.  Will 2 in 25 Obama voters (4% of 53%) stay home in 2012?  It's possible.

GOP lost 18% of their voters in 2008 (from 04) and lost 53 to 46 (or something like that)

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stimulating the economy, savings the banks to keep the dollar afloat.

true libertarian platform would have called for allowing the buck to collapse and letting us all hunt one another and rebuild things.  I'm not down for that.

IF YOU SUPPORT "STIMULUATING THE ECONOMY" VIA SOCIAL PROGRAMS AND GOVT SPENDING, THEN YOU ARE NOT A LIBERTARIAN 240. 

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well, that's your opinion.  I'm against welfare, i'm against unemployment benefits past 4 weeks, i'm against many social programs.

I support keeping our currency alive.  Sorry if that doesn't fit the party guidelines.  You talk about civil war 2 and end of days like it's some big party.  I dont look fwd to a time like that.  Sure, I have my guns and I've trained for years, but I'd prefer not to have to shoot skells on my lawn on a daily basis lol...