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Obama Tells Banks: `We Want Our Money Back'
« on: January 14, 2010, 11:21:38 AM »
I wonder how long it took before the bankers stopped laughing...

Obama tells banks: `We want our money back'

Obama: Tax banks to recover remaining cost of public's big bailout; `We want our money back'
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By Jim Kuhnhenn, Associated Press Writer , On Thursday January 14, 2010, 1:58 pm

WASHINGTON (AP) -- President Barack Obama told banks Thursday they should pay a new tax to recoup the cost of bailing out foundering firms at the height of the financial crisis. "We want our money back," he said.

In a brief appearance with advisers at the White House, Obama branded the latest round of bank bonuses as "obscene." But he said his goal was to prevent such excesses in the future, not to punish banks for past behavior.

The tax, which would require congressional approval, would last at least 10 years and generate about $90 billion over the decade, according to administration estimates. "If these companies are in good enough shape to afford massive bonuses, they are surely in good enough shape to afford paying back every penny to taxpayers," Obama said.

Advisers believe the administration can make an argument that banks should tap their bonus pools for the fee instead of passing the cost on to consumers.

The president's tone was emphatic and populist, capitalizing on public antipathy toward Wall Street. With the sharp words, he also tried to deflect some of the growing skepticism aimed at his own economic policies as unemployment stubbornly hovers around 10 percent.

The proposed 0.15 percent tax on the liabilities of large financial institutions would apply only to those companies with assets of more than $50 billion -- a group estimated at about 50. Administration officials estimate that 60 percent of the revenue would come from the 10 biggest ones.

They would have to pay up even though many did not accept any taxpayer assistance and most that did have repaid the infusions.

Obama said big banks had acted irresponsibility, taken reckless risk for short-term profits and plunged into a crisis of their own making. He cast the struggle ahead as one between the finance industry and average people.

"We are already hearing a hue and cry from Wall Street, suggesting that this proposed fee is not only unwelcome but unfair, that by some twisted logic, it is more appropriate for the American people to bear the cost of the bailout rather than the industry that benefited from it, even though these executives are out there giving themselves huge bonuses," Obama said.

He renewed his call for a regulatory overhaul of the industry and scolded bankers for opposing the tighter oversight in legislation moving through Congress.

"What I'd say to these executives is this: Instead of setting a phalanx of lobbyists to fight this proposal or employing an army of lawyers and accountants to help evade the fee, I'd suggest you might want to consider simply meeting your responsibility," Obama said.

At issue is the net cost of the fund initiated by the Bush administration to help financial institutions get rid of soured assets. The $700 billion Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP) has expanded to help auto companies and homeowners.

Insurer American International Group, the largest beneficiary at nearly $70 billion, would have to pay the tax. But General Motors Co. and Chrysler Group LLC, whose $66 billion in government loans are not expected to be repaid fully, would not.

Administration officials said financial institutions were both a significant cause of the crisis and chief beneficiaries of the rescue efforts, should bear the brunt of the cost.

Bankers did not hide their objections.

"Politics have overtaken the economics," said Scott Talbott, the chief lobbyist for the Financial Services Roundtable, a group representing large Wall Street institutions. "This is a punitive tax on companies that repaid TARP in full or never took TARP."

Even before details came out, Jamie Dimon, chief executive of JPMorgan Chase & Co., said: "Using tax policy to punish people is a bad idea."

Obama is trying to accelerate terms that require the president to seek a way to recoup unrecovered money in 2013, five years after the law was enacted.

So far, the Treasury has given $247 billion to more than 700 banks. Of that, $162 billion has been repaid and banks have paid an additional $11 billion in interest and dividends.

In Congress, Democrats embraced Obama's proposal while Republicans rejected it.

"I think it is entirely reasonable to say that the industry that, A, caused these problems more than any other and, B, benefited from the activity, should be contributing," said Democratic Rep. Barney Frank of Massachusetts, chairman of the House Financial Services Committee.

But GOP Rep. Scott Garrett of New Jersey, who's on Frank's committee, called it a "job-killing initiatives that will further cripple the economy by increasing fees passed on to consumers and small businesses, while reducing consumer credit."

Federal Deposit Insurance Corp: http://www.fdic.gov/

Financial Services Roundtable: http://www.fsround.org/

Troubled Asset Relief Program: http://www.financialstability.gov/

House Financial Services Committee: http://financialservices.house.gov/

Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission: http://www.fcic.gov
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Re: Obama Tells Banks: `We Want Our Money Back'
« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2010, 11:22:45 AM »
240 predicted yesterday that Obama would work on his public image in 2010 by 'aggressively' going at the bankers that elected him.


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Re: Obama Tells Banks: `We Want Our Money Back'
« Reply #2 on: January 14, 2010, 11:26:21 AM »
240 predicted yesterday that Obama would work on his public image in 2010 by 'aggressively' going at the bankers that elected him.



Yes and the weak minded will fall for it, until all kinds of new fee's and other shit gets passed on to us by the banks. More redirection and con from the sociopath and chief.
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Re: Obama Tells Banks: `We Want Our Money Back'
« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2010, 11:26:54 AM »
240 predicted yesterday that Obama would work on his public image in 2010 by 'aggressively' going at the bankers that elected him.




And of course 240 eats this up like cake.  This is a complete joke and now the taxpayer is paying twice since this will end up as fees passed along to depositors.  

Another Obama scam tailor made for the 240's of the world.  

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Re: Obama Tells Banks: `We Want Our Money Back'
« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2010, 11:27:55 AM »
240 predicted yesterday that Obama would work on his public image in 2010 by 'aggressively' going at the bankers that elected him.



As long as unemployment stay sky high,as it will with this fools policies in place,the dems and him will lose.

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Re: Obama Tells Banks: `We Want Our Money Back'
« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2010, 11:30:31 AM »
nah, i agree that it's a completely political move.  he's not going at the bankers.  he's trying to convince casual news watchers that he's not in their pockets, and give himself a point to refernce in the 2012 debates... "You know, I was one of the first people screaming at the banks to repay our money, almost 3 years ago..."

It's politics.  Smart repubs should have went on rush or beck yesterday or last month and said "Obama, don't come on tv next month and tell us you are suddenly against the bankers" and cut him off at the pass.  

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Re: Obama Tells Banks: `We Want Our Money Back'
« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2010, 11:31:20 AM »
THIS IS WHAT IT IS ABOUT 240
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By Reid Wilson
A year into his tenure, a majority of Americans would already vote against Pres. Obama if the '12 elections were held today, according to a new survey.

The Allstate/National Journal Heartland Monitor poll shows 50% say they would probably or definitely vote for someone else. Fully 37% say they would definitely cast a ballot against Obama. Meanwhile, just 39% would vote to re-elect the pres. to a 2nd term, and only 23% say they definitely would do so.

Obama's first year in office has been marked by an unemployment rate that surged to 10%, an increased commitment of troops to Afghanistan and a health care battle that has taken a serious political toll on the WH.

Obama's approval rating is down to 47%, the poll showed, a 14-point drop since the April survey. 45% disapprove, up 17 points from April. Only 41% say they trust Obama more than Congressional GOPers, while 33% pick the GOP over the WH. That 8-point gap is down from a 21-point edge Obama sported as recently as Sept.

Just 34% say the country is moving in the right direction, down 13 points since April, and 55% say it is off on the wrong track, up 13 points over the same period.

But as GOPers focus on taxes and spending, that message seems to be causing Obama the most harm. Among those who believe Obama's policies have moved the country in the wrong direction, 45% cite spending and government regulation as a top cause for their opposition.

Meanwhile, those who think Obama's policies are moving the country down the right track largely cite long-term benefits of his initiatives.

In the meantime, health care legislation is by no means popular, but a majority of Americans don't oppose the legislation yet. 44% said they support the legislation under consideration, down 5 points from the last poll in Sept., while 46% oppose it.

The poll, conducted by Financial Dynamics, surveyed 1,200 adults between Jan. 3-7 for a margin of error of +/- 2.8%.

For more on the Allstate/National Journal Heartland Monitor poll, see Ron Brownstein's take on a distrustful America and the withering green shoots after a year under the Obama admin. Full poll results are available here [pdf].

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Re: Obama Tells Banks: `We Want Our Money Back'
« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2010, 11:32:04 AM »
"As long as unemployment stay sky high,as it will with this fools policies in place,the dems and him will lose."

Maybe... but Obama's still around 50% approval and the repub is now split between RINO and TEA PARTY.

A unified GOP *should* be holding a 65 to 35 advantage over obama in polls today.  he's printing money in a depression for God's sake.  But GOp doesn't have their shit together.

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Re: Obama Tells Banks: `We Want Our Money Back'
« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2010, 11:34:05 AM »
"The Allstate/National Journal Heartland Monitor poll shows 50% say they would probably or definitely vote for someone else."

yes.  And if Obama gets 49%, he still probably wins, as the repub party is split.

Remember Bush only got what, 48% in 2000 and won?  cause of nader.  You have potential for a major nader with the tea party.


Additionally - THINK ABOUT IT - you're celebrating because half of america wouldn't vote for obama (with only 37% definitely against it).  that's a piss poor accomplishment, considering the shitty shape we're in.  The lead should be WAY more.

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« Reply #9 on: January 14, 2010, 11:35:18 AM »
"The Allstate/National Journal Heartland Monitor poll shows 50% say they would probably or definitely vote for someone else."

yes.  And if Obama gets 49%, he still probably wins, as the repub party is split.

Remember Bush only got what, 48% in 2000 and won?  cause of nader.  You have potential for a major nader with the tea party.


Additionally - THINK ABOUT IT - you're celebrating because half of america wouldn't vote for obama (with only 37% definitely against it).  that's a piss poor accomplishment, considering the shitty shape we're in.  The lead should be WAY more.

240 - WE ARE ONLY ONE YEAR INTO THIS CATASTOPHE!   

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Re: Obama Tells Banks: `We Want Our Money Back'
« Reply #10 on: January 14, 2010, 11:46:19 AM »
yes, and it *could* bottom out at any time in the next 2.5 years... which means if we're sitting pretty in nov 2012, people will be thanking obama for the last 5 months of prosperity, not the 3.5 years of poverty before that (which obama will blame bush for).

And for the 9th time today, I'm not defending obama nor saying he's right at all here - I'm saying this is smart politics that will work on many voters.

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Re: Obama Tells Banks: `We Want Our Money Back'
« Reply #11 on: January 14, 2010, 11:54:08 AM »
yes, and it *could* bottom out at any time in the next 2.5 years... which means if we're sitting pretty in nov 2012, people will be thanking obama for the last 5 months of prosperity, not the 3.5 years of poverty before that (which obama will blame bush for).

And for the 9th time today, I'm not defending obama nor saying he's right at all here - I'm saying this is smart politics that will work on many voters.

It wont matter if the GOP taxes back one or two chambers of the congress.  Obama will get nothing done whatsoever. 

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Re: Obama Tells Banks: `We Want Our Money Back'
« Reply #12 on: January 14, 2010, 12:44:16 PM »
Banks ordered Obama to say that.  Banks run the show.    :)

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Re: Obama Tells Banks: `We Want Our Money Back'
« Reply #13 on: January 14, 2010, 12:46:14 PM »
Banks ordered Obama to say that.  Banks run the show.    :)

Only an idiot believes Obama in this. 

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Re: Obama Tells Banks: `We Want Our Money Back'
« Reply #14 on: January 14, 2010, 05:26:21 PM »
Obama says, "We want our money back"?

Funny!! The American taxpayers are saying THE SAME THING, about his boneheaded "stimulus" bill. And, they'll be SCREAMING that, if this debacle of a healthcare bill passes.

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Re: Obama Tells Banks: `We Want Our Money Back'
« Reply #15 on: January 14, 2010, 05:37:06 PM »
Obama says, "We want our money back"?

Funny!! The American taxpayers are saying THE SAME THING, about his boneheaded "stimulus" bill. And, they'll be SCREAMING that, if this debacle of a healthcare bill passes.

where is the 'like' button on this??..  :D

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Re: Obama Tells Banks: `We Want Our Money Back'
« Reply #16 on: January 14, 2010, 05:42:07 PM »
to do this, they would also need to control all bank fees for the same period or they would just pass the tax on to us to pay.  obama won't do that and the left is not going to buy this bullshit.  if he keeps up the deceptive bullshit like this, he'll go down as the most hated pres ever.

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Re: Obama Tells Banks: `We Want Our Money Back'
« Reply #17 on: January 14, 2010, 06:27:18 PM »
Like has been stated.   It is all staged for timing purposes.   They are gearing up for the 2010 elections so all the lying and cheerleading is set to begin.   BTW, BOTH parties SUCK!!!

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Re: Obama Tells Banks: `We Want Our Money Back'
« Reply #18 on: January 14, 2010, 10:35:54 PM »
CBS News: President Obama prepares $ 120 billion levy on banks

AP) President Barack Obama plans to announce a new fee Thursday on the country's biggest financial firms to recover up to $120 billion in taxpayers' money used to prop up corporations during the economic crisis, a senior administration official said.

In proposing a multiyear levy on big banks, Obama is targeting an industry whose political deafness has vexed his administration. Banks once threatened by the undertow of a Wall Street collapse are now posting profits and proposing robust bonuses for their executives.



Now, he's putting some ACTION against the banks.

Is it without teeth?  Sure.  Insulting?  yep.

Will it work?  on some people, YES.

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Re: Obama Tells Banks: `We Want Our Money Back'
« Reply #19 on: January 15, 2010, 04:47:20 AM »
240 predicted yesterday that Obama would work on his public image in 2010 by 'aggressively' going at the bankers that elected him.


You speak about yourself in 3rd person. Awesome. Like that guy Jimmy on Seinfeld that Elaine mistakenly got a date with. 'Jimmy's attracted to Elaine'
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Re: Obama Tells Banks: `We Want Our Money Back'
« Reply #20 on: January 15, 2010, 05:02:12 AM »
With all the "climate change" issues, this guy should be a prime suspect for all the hot air he releases......

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« Reply #21 on: January 15, 2010, 05:21:22 AM »
You speak about yourself in 3rd person. Awesome. Like that guy Jimmy on Seinfeld that Elaine mistakenly got a date with. 'Jimmy's attracted to Elaine'

Its not going to work.  This is yet another scam against the taxpayer tailor made for the braindead idiots who dont understand how things actually work. 

Anyone who buys into this is as bad as the scam artist pushing it.   

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Re: Obama Tells Banks: `We Want Our Money Back'
« Reply #22 on: January 15, 2010, 06:38:17 AM »
"The Allstate/National Journal Heartland Monitor poll shows 50% say they would probably or definitely vote for someone else."

yes.  And if Obama gets 49%, he still probably wins, as the repub party is split.

Remember Bush only got what, 48% in 2000 and won?  cause of nader.  You have potential for a major nader with the tea party.


Additionally - THINK ABOUT IT - you're celebrating because half of america wouldn't vote for obama (with only 37% definitely against it).  that's a piss poor accomplishment, considering the shitty shape we're in.  The lead should be WAY more.

People are NEVER EVER going to give their true feelings about Obama.They are terrified to be labeled racist.However,look at the agenda polling,health care is at 35% apporval,cap and trade is the same.People wont admit they dont like a black man,but they sure are speaking loudly about where he is taking the country.

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Re: Obama Tells Banks: `We Want Our Money Back'
« Reply #23 on: January 15, 2010, 07:06:00 AM »
"This is yet another scam against the taxpayer tailor made for the braindead idiots who dont understand how things actually work"

A lot of these braindead idiots vote.  It's that 10% in the middle that decides every election, and they're not all that bright in the middle.

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Re: Obama Tells Banks: `We Want Our Money Back'
« Reply #24 on: January 15, 2010, 08:53:45 PM »
People are NEVER EVER going to give their true feelings about Obama.They are terrified to be labeled racist.However,look at the agenda polling,health care is at 35% apporval,cap and trade is the same.People wont admit they dont like a black man,but they sure are speaking loudly about where he is taking the country.



You must live under a rock.   His whole party is pissed with him.  All this bi-partisanship crap he allowed,  (164 ammendments to the health care bill) for example, have given him NOTHING in return.!!!.....Not a single repub vote in the senate.    Waste of time being nice is.   He should learn from the tactics of the retarded texas cowboy, bush........and forced it down their ass without asking.

Most people arent impressed so far by obama and to hell with his skin color, he seems to be a whitey with deception and hot air promises.