But you'r eon other shit. Not natural. you should have results to back up your use. This is the only picture I've ever taken, it's three years old after 15 months training and my first 12 week diet which I overdid (lost 24 pounds). I don't think I'm hot at all, I'm flat as a pancake but still look better than you ever will with your awful structure and limbs. I don't intend to compete because I can't get in shape the way I'd want to (kids and work and all). I don't live in a fantasy world like you do.