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Re: tanning dos and donts
« Reply #25 on: January 15, 2010, 07:44:26 AM »
here ya go best info u can get, and 10mg is like 50$


These instructions here are based on my experience using melanotan II for 3 seasons and on carefully reading the posts of this board for 3 years.  I am a skin-type 2, and this advice is specifically for type 2 people.  People with type 1 skin may not get sufficient tanning from what I recommend.  People with type 3 or 4 skin can probably use less.
 
Mixing:  First, don’t add bacteriostatic water to the vial before you are ready to use it because it starts to degrade when water is added.  Also, think in terms of “units” instead of milliliters (ml).  Almost all needles are marked in “units.”  The conversion is 1 ml = 100 units.   
 
I recommend adding 100 units of water to the vial.  This will minimize the volume that you have to inject and will simplify the arithmetic that you will have to do to calculate the dose you are delivering.  If you dilute 10 mg with 100 units of water, then 10mg/100 units = 0.1 mg/unit.
 
Some people prefer more water -200 or 300 units.  That will work as well but will increase the volume that you inject.   
 
Needles:  Use small needle.  The smaller the needle, the less the discomfort.  I suggest a 31 gauge short (5/16 inch) with a reservoir of 30 or 50 units.  That is a typical insulin needle. Once you get your technique perfected, it is almost painless.  &guy and thicker needles will  work just as well but may be less comfortable.   
 
Starting dose: Your first injection should be a very small dose, for example 0.1 or 0.2 mg.  That is because a few people have had very adverse reactions.  Start off with a small dose in case you are one of those people.
 
Loading dose: I recommend loading with 0.3 to 0.5 mg once a day.  People who have used doses in this range generally report getting excellent results.  Don’t worry if you miss occasional days.  It won’t make any difference.  Continue taking this dose until you do no longer  want to get darker.
 
I have not seen convincing evidence that a type 2 gets much additional benefit from doses above 0.5 mg/day or that injecting more than once a day has significant benefits.
 
How long to load before UV?  I recommend loading for a month before any significant UV.  I think that it takes a month for your skin to be really saturated with melanin, the substance that turns dark when UV hits it.  Since UV damages skin, you want to be able to get the most tan from the least UV.  That’s what loading before UV accomplishes.   
 
Need for UV:  You need UV (from sun or a tanning bed) to develop a tan.  Without UV almost nothing happens.  In other words, NO UV = NO TAN.  But if you have loaded for a full month and then start regular and substantial UV, you (and your friends) will be astounded by how fast you tan and how dark you get.
 
Avoid burning: You are protected from burning mostly by your tan, not the melanotan II that you have taken.  Therefore, don’t overdo UV at first.  Start with only as much UV that you could tolerate without burring before you started melanotan II.  Then gradually increase your exposure.  It shouldn’t take  many weeks before you can tolerate many hours of strong sun without burning.
 
When to start maintenance:  Maintenance is taking doses less frequently than daily to avoid becoming darker than you want.  Yes, that will happen.  With enough UV, you will get much darker than you have even been before.   
 
Continue your regular daily dose until you have reached your desired tan and do not want to become darker.  Then cut injection frequency to once every 2, 3, 4, or even 7 days.  You will have to experiment to find the frequency that gives you the tan that you want.
 
How long will tan last?  It is clear that a tan developed using melanotan II lasts much longer than an ordinary tan.  A well-tanned person returning from a beach holiday will lose most of the tan in a month if they stop getting sun.  But if they had been using melanotan II and continued on maintenance after returning, they would still have most of their tan 3 months later.
 
Winter maintenance:  Taking melanotan II once or twice a week will do wonders for maintaining a tan even if you do not get UV.     
 
Storage of  melanotan II: It is not as fragile as some people think.  Before it is mixed with water, melanotan II is quite stable and can last for weeks or perhaps months or longer at room temperature.  Nevertheless, freezing is recommended to minimize any degradation.   
 
After mixing with water, it should be refrigerated or frozen.  Evidence is that melanotan II lasts for more than a month in a refrigerator.  I have used some that was at room temperature for almost 2 weeks, and it had the same level of sexual side effects as normal.   
 
But from experience, I have found that you can freeze reconstituted vials or melanotan II in syringes for many months without any noticeable degradation.
 
Allergic-type reactions:  After using melanotan II for 2 years, I found that it gave me cold-like symptoms - nasal congestion, runny nose, coughing.  Some other people have reported similar symptoms.  I suspect this is an allergic reaction.  Possibly the reaction is due to an impurity in the melanotan II or possibly the melanotan II itself.  I suspect it is due to poor quality of some of the melanotan II recently being sold.  In any case, I can almost completely eliminate the symptoms by taking an antihistamine daily, Zyrtec in my case.


thanks. something to think about -- I hate tanning in beds

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Re: tanning dos and donts
« Reply #26 on: January 15, 2010, 07:50:18 AM »
here ya go best info u can get, and 10mg is like 50$


These instructions here are based on my experience using melanotan II for 3 seasons and on carefully reading the posts of this board for 3 years.  I am a skin-type 2, and this advice is specifically for type 2 people.  People with type 1 skin may not get sufficient tanning from what I recommend.  People with type 3 or 4 skin can probably use less.
 
Mixing:  First, don’t add bacteriostatic water to the vial before you are ready to use it because it starts to degrade when water is added.  Also, think in terms of “units” instead of milliliters (ml).  Almost all needles are marked in “units.”  The conversion is 1 ml = 100 units.   
 
I recommend adding 100 units of water to the vial.  This will minimize the volume that you have to inject and will simplify the arithmetic that you will have to do to calculate the dose you are delivering.  If you dilute 10 mg with 100 units of water, then 10mg/100 units = 0.1 mg/unit.
 
Some people prefer more water -200 or 300 units.  That will work as well but will increase the volume that you inject.   
 
Needles:  Use small needle.  The smaller the needle, the less the discomfort.  I suggest a 31 gauge short (5/16 inch) with a reservoir of 30 or 50 units.  That is a typical insulin needle. Once you get your technique perfected, it is almost painless.   Longer and thicker needles will  work just as well but may be less comfortable.   
 
Starting dose: Your first injection should be a very small dose, for example 0.1 or 0.2 mg.  That is because a few people have had very adverse reactions.  Start off with a small dose in case you are one of those people.
 
Loading dose: I recommend loading with 0.3 to 0.5 mg once a day.  People who have used doses in this range generally report getting excellent results.  Don’t worry if you miss occasional days.  It won’t make any difference.  Continue taking this dose until you do no longer  want to get darker.
 
I have not seen convincing evidence that a type 2 gets much additional benefit from doses above 0.5 mg/day or that injecting more than once a day has significant benefits.
 
How long to load before UV?  I recommend loading for a month before any significant UV.  I think that it takes a month for your skin to be really saturated with melanin, the substance that turns dark when UV hits it.  Since UV damages skin, you want to be able to get the most tan from the least UV.  That’s what loading before UV accomplishes.   
 
Need for UV:  You need UV (from sun or a tanning bed) to develop a tan.  Without UV almost nothing happens.  In other words, NO UV = NO TAN.  But if you have loaded for a full month and then start regular and substantial UV, you (and your friends) will be astounded by how fast you tan and how dark you get.
 
Avoid burning: You are protected from burning mostly by your tan, not the melanotan II that you have taken.  Therefore, don’t overdo UV at first.  Start with only as much UV that you could tolerate without burring before you started melanotan II.  Then gradually increase your exposure.  It shouldn’t take  many weeks before you can tolerate many hours of strong sun without burning.
 
When to start maintenance:  Maintenance is taking doses less frequently than daily to avoid becoming darker than you want.  Yes, that will happen.  With enough UV, you will get much darker than you have even been before.   
 
Continue your regular daily dose until you have reached your desired tan and do not want to become darker.  Then cut injection frequency to once every 2, 3, 4, or even 7 days.  You will have to experiment to find the frequency that gives you the tan that you want.
 
How long will tan last?  It is clear that a tan developed using melanotan II lasts much longer than an ordinary tan.  A well-tanned person returning from a beach holiday will lose most of the tan in a month if they stop getting sun.  But if they had been using melanotan II and continued on maintenance after returning, they would still have most of their tan 3 months later.
 
Winter maintenance:  Taking melanotan II once or twice a week will do wonders for maintaining a tan even if you do not get UV.     
 
Storage of  melanotan II: It is not as fragile as some people think.  Before it is mixed with water, melanotan II is quite stable and can last for weeks or perhaps months or longer at room temperature.  Nevertheless, freezing is recommended to minimize any degradation.   
 
After mixing with water, it should be refrigerated or frozen.  Evidence is that melanotan II lasts for more than a month in a refrigerator.  I have used some that was at room temperature for almost 2 weeks, and it had the same level of sexual side effects as normal.   
 
But from experience, I have found that you can freeze reconstituted vials or melanotan II in syringes for many months without any noticeable degradation.
 
Allergic-type reactions:  After using melanotan II for 2 years, I found that it gave me cold-like symptoms - nasal congestion, runny nose, coughing.  Some other people have reported similar symptoms.  I suspect this is an allergic reaction.  Possibly the reaction is due to an impurity in the melanotan II or possibly the melanotan II itself.  I suspect it is due to poor quality of some of the melanotan II recently being sold.  In any case, I can almost completely eliminate the symptoms by taking an antihistamine daily, Zyrtec in my case.


Aren't there big time freckle/spot issues associated?

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Re: tanning dos and donts
« Reply #27 on: January 15, 2010, 07:50:59 AM »
moles can increase in size

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Re: tanning dos and donts
« Reply #28 on: January 15, 2010, 08:43:36 AM »
i need to, i get too pale otherwise.

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Re: tanning dos and donts
« Reply #29 on: January 15, 2010, 08:46:35 AM »
i love when women tan and they privates are more light skinned than the rest of they body

i been trying to talk my wife into doing that!



G-string tan line on a hot chick is sweet 8)

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Re: tanning dos and donts
« Reply #30 on: January 15, 2010, 08:49:26 AM »
here ya go best info u can get, and 10mg is like 50$


These instructions here are based on my experience using melanotan II for 3 seasons and on carefully reading the posts of this board for 3 years.  I am a skin-type 2, and this advice is specifically for type 2 people.  People with type 1 skin may not get sufficient tanning from what I recommend.  People with type 3 or 4 skin can probably use less.
 
Mixing:  First, don’t add bacteriostatic water to the vial before you are ready to use it because it starts to degrade when water is added.  Also, think in terms of “units” instead of milliliters (ml).  Almost all needles are marked in “units.”  The conversion is 1 ml = 100 units.   
 
I recommend adding 100 units of water to the vial.  This will minimize the volume that you have to inject and will simplify the arithmetic that you will have to do to calculate the dose you are delivering.  If you dilute 10 mg with 100 units of water, then 10mg/100 units = 0.1 mg/unit.
 
Some people prefer more water -200 or 300 units.  That will work as well but will increase the volume that you inject.   
 
Needles:  Use small needle.  The smaller the needle, the less the discomfort.  I suggest a 31 gauge short (5/16 inch) with a reservoir of 30 or 50 units.  That is a typical insulin needle. Once you get your technique perfected, it is almost painless.  &guy and thicker needles will  work just as well but may be less comfortable.   
 
Starting dose: Your first injection should be a very small dose, for example 0.1 or 0.2 mg.  That is because a few people have had very adverse reactions.  Start off with a small dose in case you are one of those people.
 
Loading dose: I recommend loading with 0.3 to 0.5 mg once a day.  People who have used doses in this range generally report getting excellent results.  Don’t worry if you miss occasional days.  It won’t make any difference.  Continue taking this dose until you do no longer  want to get darker.
 
I have not seen convincing evidence that a type 2 gets much additional benefit from doses above 0.5 mg/day or that injecting more than once a day has significant benefits.
 
How long to load before UV?  I recommend loading for a month before any significant UV.  I think that it takes a month for your skin to be really saturated with melanin, the substance that turns dark when UV hits it.  Since UV damages skin, you want to be able to get the most tan from the least UV.  That’s what loading before UV accomplishes.   
 
Need for UV:  You need UV (from sun or a tanning bed) to develop a tan.  Without UV almost nothing happens.  In other words, NO UV = NO TAN.  But if you have loaded for a full month and then start regular and substantial UV, you (and your friends) will be astounded by how fast you tan and how dark you get.
 
Avoid burning: You are protected from burning mostly by your tan, not the melanotan II that you have taken.  Therefore, don’t overdo UV at first.  Start with only as much UV that you could tolerate without burring before you started melanotan II.  Then gradually increase your exposure.  It shouldn’t take  many weeks before you can tolerate many hours of strong sun without burning.
 
When to start maintenance:  Maintenance is taking doses less frequently than daily to avoid becoming darker than you want.  Yes, that will happen.  With enough UV, you will get much darker than you have even been before.   
 
Continue your regular daily dose until you have reached your desired tan and do not want to become darker.  Then cut injection frequency to once every 2, 3, 4, or even 7 days.  You will have to experiment to find the frequency that gives you the tan that you want.
 
How long will tan last?  It is clear that a tan developed using melanotan II lasts much longer than an ordinary tan.  A well-tanned person returning from a beach holiday will lose most of the tan in a month if they stop getting sun.  But if they had been using melanotan II and continued on maintenance after returning, they would still have most of their tan 3 months later.
 
Winter maintenance:  Taking melanotan II once or twice a week will do wonders for maintaining a tan even if you do not get UV.     
 
Storage of  melanotan II: It is not as fragile as some people think.  Before it is mixed with water, melanotan II is quite stable and can last for weeks or perhaps months or longer at room temperature.  Nevertheless, freezing is recommended to minimize any degradation.   
 
After mixing with water, it should be refrigerated or frozen.  Evidence is that melanotan II lasts for more than a month in a refrigerator.  I have used some that was at room temperature for almost 2 weeks, and it had the same level of sexual side effects as normal.   
 
But from experience, I have found that you can freeze reconstituted vials or melanotan II in syringes for many months without any noticeable degradation.
 
Allergic-type reactions:  After using melanotan II for 2 years, I found that it gave me cold-like symptoms - nasal congestion, runny nose, coughing.  Some other people have reported similar symptoms.  I suspect this is an allergic reaction.  Possibly the reaction is due to an impurity in the melanotan II or possibly the melanotan II itself.  I suspect it is due to poor quality of some of the melanotan II recently being sold.  In any case, I can almost completely eliminate the symptoms by taking an antihistamine daily, Zyrtec in my case.



believe it or not, i'm legit thinking of using melatan II since  i found a source

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Re: tanning dos and donts
« Reply #31 on: January 15, 2010, 09:15:51 AM »
A 10mg bottle is around 80 bucks I think. How long does that last?

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« Reply #32 on: January 15, 2010, 11:25:31 AM »
tanning beds make people look like carrots, stick to the sun

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« Reply #33 on: January 15, 2010, 11:39:54 AM »
tanning beds make people look like carrots, stick to the sun

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Re: tanning dos and donts
« Reply #34 on: January 15, 2010, 03:01:22 PM »
A 10mg bottle is around 80 bucks I think. How long does that last?


 10mg is like 50$ and it last 20 days at first when you are loading at .5mg everyday until you get the tan that you what, after your dark enough which usually take like 1 month and 1/2 to 2 months, you only need to maintain by using .5mg like twice per week so after you get your desired tan a 10mg bottle can last like 10 weeks. this shit is expensive at first but after its pretty cheap

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Re: tanning dos and donts
« Reply #35 on: January 15, 2010, 03:08:27 PM »
what are the known sides
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« Reply #36 on: January 15, 2010, 03:26:01 PM »
pretty good chance of happening: nausea, facial flushing, men:erection,women:very horny. 
rare chance: fatigue, vomiting, injection site reactions

existing moles and freckles become darker, it look bad at first when you are still pale and your mole are getting dark but when you get brown its good

also, melanotan II hasn’t been around long enough to be able to look at the long-term effects this hormone could have on the body. And taking any drug that hasn’t been extensively trialled will always have its potential dangers.

shouldnt matter if you're in the ''Team living past 40yo is overrated''  ;)

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Re: tanning dos and donts
« Reply #37 on: January 15, 2010, 03:27:07 PM »
pretty good chance of happening: nausea, facial flushing, men:erection,women:very horny. 
rare chance: fatigue, vomiting, injection site reactions

existing moles and freckles become darker, it look bad at first when you are still pale and your mole are getting dark but when you get brown its good

also, melanotan II hasn’t been around long enough to be able to look at the long-term effects this hormone could have on the body. And taking any drug that hasn’t been extensively trialled will always have its potential dangers.

shouldnt matter if you're in the ''Team living past 40yo is overrated''  ;)
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« Reply #38 on: January 15, 2010, 03:31:03 PM »
i love when women tan and they privates are more light skinned than the rest of they body

i been trying to talk my wife into doing that!

You mean like this?

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« Reply #39 on: January 15, 2010, 03:33:04 PM »
You mean like this?


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Re: tanning dos and donts
« Reply #40 on: January 15, 2010, 03:48:05 PM »
Melanotan 2 was the shit!

I was on up to .25mg ED, and people say I would glow  :-X

Gave me horrific panic attacks though, as they are a known side.


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« Reply #41 on: January 15, 2010, 03:56:44 PM »
Living in the Pacific Northwest, it is necessary for some of us to use tanning beds to fend off winter time depression due to the lack of light from the sun.

oh brother  ::)