Fedor vs. Werdum set for April on CBS

[HICKSON]

Do you think that someone that is not on ANYONE'S top 5 HW list should be fighting against the "#1 in the world?"

Hopefully Werdum does knock Fedor out....Then we can finally have someone at #1 that isn't afraid to fight the best.

No I don't.

But it is what it is & thats what Strikeforce has to deal with in their thin stable.

What if Fedor runs through Werdum?

Is he going to get a little more respect?
Nope! Same shit different thread.

[big L dawg]

I think most people are missing that this is a fight to set up a showdown with Fedor vs Overeem....however.....t hat being said just because someone isn't ranked in the top 10 doesn't mean they suck or there a can....werdum has fought alot of top level competition...He's fought gonzaga twice,Alistair overeem,Nog,aleksander Emelianenko,Andrei arlovski,brandon Vera,junior dos Santos,and big foot Silva.....that is an excellent list of opponents....A scrub fighter would not have that many fights against top 10 compition.....

[MindSpin]

No I don't.

But it is what it is & thats what Strikeforce has to deal with in their thin stable.

What if Fedor runs through Werdum?

Is he going to get a little more respect?
Nope! Same shit different thread.

we all know he is fighting Werdum because there is really no one else to put him up against outside of the UFC.  You really have to ask yourself why he is avoiding it.  Better competition, more exposure and more money.  My guess is he is afraid, dumb or both.

[MindSpin]

I think most people are missing that this is a fight to set up a showdown with Fedor vs Overeem....however.....t hat being said just because someone isn't ranked in the top 10 doesn't mean they suck or there a can....werdum has fought alot of top level competition...He's fought gonzaga twice,Alistair overeem,Nog,aleksander Emelianenko,Andrei arlovski,brandon Vera,junior dos Santos,and big foot Silva.....that is an excellent list of opponents....A scrub fighter would not have that many fights against top 10 compition.....

Why do they need to set up a showdown for Fedor/Overeem   One is the #1 ranked heavyweight and the other is holding the Strike Farce belt

[HICKSON]

I think most people are missing that this is a fight to set up a showdown with Fedor vs Overeem....however.....t hat being said just because someone isn't ranked in the top 10 doesn't mean they suck or there a can....werdum has fought alot of top level competition...He's fought gonzaga twice,Alistair overeem,Nog,aleksander Emelianenko,Andrei arlovski,brandon Vera,junior dos Santos,and big foot Silva.....that is an excellent list of opponents....A scrub fighter would not have that many fights against top 10 compition.....

Intelligent post!!! Thank you! 

[big L dawg]

Intelligent post!!! Thank you! 

no problem man ...there kinda hard to come by on here lately regarding MMA...I find myself wondering why I even bother posting on Getbig as far as MMA goes...Especially since I post on other MMA forums were theres people who actually know what there talking about & can debate and back up there statements with facts....most on Getbig just resort to elementary style arguments & are so biased by certain fighters they lack the ability of rational thought....

[HICKSON]

no problem man ...there kinda hard to come by on here lately regarding MMA...I find myself wondering why I even bother posting on Getbig as far as MMA goes...Especially since I post on other MMA forums were theres people who actually know what there talking about & can debate and back up there statements with facts....most on Getbig just resort to elementary style arguments & are so biased by certain fighters they lack the ability of rational thought....

QFT!! 

[big L dawg]

Why do they need to set up a showdown for Fedor/Overeem   One is the #1 ranked heavyweight and the other is holding the Strike Farce belt

because overeem is already committed & signed to fight in march & fedor doesn't want to remain idle waiting on him.....

man why do I even bother

[WeightPSHR]

No I don't.

But it is what it is & thats what Strikeforce has to deal with in their thin stable.

What if Fedor runs through Werdum?

Is he going to get a little more respect?
Nope! Same shit different thread.

He won't get respect because he is 1. fighting Werdum 2. he is fighting in a small organization that has limited talent.

You keep forgetting, I don't dislike Fedor or Strikeforce. I dislike that he is fighting FAR below his talent level.

[WeightPSHR]

no problem man ...there kinda hard to come by on here lately regarding MMA...I find myself wondering why I even bother posting on Getbig as far as MMA goes...Especially since I post on other MMA forums were theres people who actually know what there talking about & can debate and back up there statements with facts....most on Getbig just resort to elementary style arguments & are so biased by certain fighters they lack the ability of rational thought....

I can tell you I like all MMA and am not biased towards anyone. Can you honestly say that Fedor wouldn't have more entertaining fights in the UFC?

[HICKSON]

I can tell you I like all MMA and am not biased towards anyone. Can you honestly say that Fedor wouldn't have more entertaining fights in the UFC?

No I can't but you people have to understand that he is a businessman/owner. And who in their right mind would give all that up just to satisify Billy Blowjob in cornfed Iowa on some website fourm talking shit.

Bill gates didn't conform, did he?

People, the control UFC has over its fighter is crazy in this day & age.

[MindSpin]

Okay - let me break this down for you dipshits once and for all.  How do MMA fighters make money from the sport?  By earning prize money, endorsement deals and in some cases a cut of the PPV.

Currently, Fedor is fighting with M1 & Strike Force.  As a result, he is limiting how much he can earn per fight (UFC pays more), how much he can earn on PPV (UFC gets higher ratings and does more shows) and more importantly, he is limiting his exposure, which directly affects how much third party companies are willing to pay him.  And, this third is one is HUGE.  I'll give you an example.  I work with a nutrition company that pays Rashas Evans $100,000 per fight to wear their logo on televised events...$100k just for wearing a t-shirt or hat.  Then, he gets an additional $10k ever time that the logo is shown in a rebroadcast.  In Rashad's case, they've shown this logo almost every time UFC Unleashed is on, every time TUF is on and every time they show footage in building up a fight of his.  It's translated to another $500,000 for Rashad in 2009 (from just one sponsor).  That same company also sponsors a few of Strike Farce top fighters.  When they wear the logo they get $10,000 and each time it gets rebroadcasted they get $1,000.  Since there is hardly any rebroadcasting, it doesn't really generate any money for the Strike Farce guys. 

In Fedor's case, he would be able to command upwards of $250,000 to show a logo in a fight, plus $25,000 per rebroadcast.  And that is just for one sponsor.  He could have 3-4 that would be willing to pay this.  He's not coming anywhere near that in Strike Farce.

He would also get a cut of the PPV, just as Lesnar, Couture, GSP and other top draws.  That's a lot more money in the UFC than any other org. 

I know Fedor owns 10% of M1, but that means nothing.  He gets 10% of M1's 50% per fight.  Since he is fighting in a subpar organization, this ads up to almost nothing. 

Bottom line, Fedor makes more...MUCH more with the UFC.  He should do a simple three fight deal, prove he is the best and if he wants to, go back to fighting cans when he is done.  What's stopping him

[George Whorewell]

You must be right "Mind Spin."

Clearly you know what Fedors finances are, and as evinced by your last posting, he obviously is taking less money because he is scared of fighting the top notch HW's the UFC has to offer.

Thanks for clearing that up for us!

[MindSpin]

You must be right "Mind Spin."

Clearly you know what Fedors finances are, and as evinced by your last posting, he obviously is taking less money because he is scared of fighting the top notch HW's the UFC has to offer.

Thanks for clearing that up for us!

Finally! 

QFT!

[marty31672]

if the fights is on cbs then more people will watch because its free...

[HICKSON]

if the fights is on cbs then more people will watch because its free...

Which = tons more money in Fedors pocket. This is something "Spin" can't wrap his lil nad around.

[gmflex]

there was a interview posted a while back on youtube after the cancellation of his fight against Barnett where Fedor clearly stated that its not about money
or his legacy...

So for all the UFC nuthuggers...  

Fedor doesn't care what people think...

He is happy with his current contract and his 10% ownership in M-1 global...
Regardless of his ownership in M-1 global ; his contract expires sometime at the end of 2010 or when his 3 fight deal is over with strikeforce.. whatever comes first... he has stated that he has enough money to retire if he wants too...

so there you go...

[mame09]

so who the fuk is fedor meant to fight to keep the ufc nut huggers happy?

[MindSpin]

All he needs to do is to clean out he "weak" UFC heavyweight division, starting with Brock.

[big L dawg]

so who the fuk is fedor meant to fight to keep the ufc nut huggers happy?

yea man whats wrong with you....He has to beat a fighter with five fights then he will be shown respect

[MindSpin]

yea man whats wrong with you....He has to beat a fighter with five fights then he will be shown respect

Dude, in the last couple of years, he's fought a lightweight, a middle weight and freakshows like Hong Man Choi.  Are you telling he's too good to fight the current UFC title holder and #2 ranked fighter

Come on.  You guys all know it.  He would get devoured in the UFC...

[Fury]

His real challenge is fighting a guy with a 4-1 record whose only worthwhile wins have been against fighters who are 5+ years past their prime. The UFC HW division ROCKS! It's so loaded with talent that Frank Mir is already in line for another title shot in the next year!

[MindSpin]

His real challenge is fighting a guy with a 4-1 record whose only worthwhile wins have been against fighters who are 5+ years past their prime. The UFC HW division ROCKS! It's so loaded with talent that Frank Mir is already in line for another title shot in the next year!

Are you actually trying to make the point that Hong Man Choi (record 2-3-0 and one of those wins to Jose Canseco...lol)), Matt Linland (middle weight) and Shiya Aoki (lightweight), are better competition than Lesnar, Mir, Velasques, Carwin & Dosantos   Damn you're pathetic 

[mame09]

Are you actually trying to make the point that Hong Man Choi (record 2-3-0 and one of those wins to Jose Canseco...lol)), Matt Linland (middle weight) and Shiya Aoki (lightweight), are better competition than Lesnar, Mir, Velasques, Carwin & Dosantos   Damn you're pathetic 

who the fuk are Lesnar, Mir, Velasques, Carwin & Dosantos? are they meant to be some world class fighters.

they are all shitter than each other and not one of them could defeat big nogs (yes i know mir tko'd nogs but that dont mean shit because he had staph infection and double vision. when nogs gets his rematch he will rip mir a new asshole)

[big L dawg]

who the fuk are Lesnar, Mir, Velasques, Carwin & Dosantos? are they meant to be some world class fighters.

they are all shitter than each other and not one of them could defeat big nogs (yes i know mir tko'd nogs but that dont mean shit because he had staph infection and double vision. when nogs gets his rematch he will rip mir a new asshole)

not to mention mindspin is so conveniently leaving out Tim Sylvia,Andrei arlvoski,& Brett rogers which are three guys that could come in and clear out 90% of the UFC heavys by themselves....then throw in fedor and overeem and they would clear out the rest.....