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Drug testing to receive unemployment benefits
« on: January 21, 2010, 04:08:00 PM »
Do you support it? 

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Re: Drug testing to receive unemployment benefits
« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2010, 04:09:52 PM »
Do you support it?  


I would support drug testing to recieve welfare much more,  to get unemployment you atleast had a job.
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Re: Drug testing to receive unemployment benefits
« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2010, 04:10:53 PM »
But isn't it personally invasive?  What business is it of the govt what you do to your body?

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Re: Drug testing to receive unemployment benefits
« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2010, 04:12:35 PM »
But isn't it personally invasive?  What business is it of the govt what you do to your body?

for welfare of unemployment? As far as welfare is concerned, as a tax payer I want to know what these fuckers are up to. Unemployment 50/50
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Re: Drug testing to receive unemployment benefits
« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2010, 04:13:11 PM »
I would support drug testing to recieve welfare much more,  to get unemployment you atleast had a job.


Agreed.  I don't see the need to test people for unemployment.

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Re: Drug testing to receive unemployment benefits
« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2010, 05:59:57 PM »
I dont think there should be any drug testing for any job period--- Unless you are clearly fucked up on the job, have some sort of accident, or are working with heavy machinery, driving, flying a plane etc.

What you put into your body on your personal time is your business.

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Re: Drug testing to receive unemployment benefits
« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2010, 07:03:38 PM »
But isn't it personally invasive?  What business is it of the govt what you do to your body?
what business is it of the govts to take your money and give it to others?

I would be ok with it for unemployment b/c alot of ppl do take advantage of the system in regards to unemployment

I think for welfare that it needs to be mandatory and implemented immediately

then we can all go invest in companies that make synthetic pee and yellow dye number 5 and become real getbig millionaires.  ;D

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Re: Drug testing to receive unemployment benefits
« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2010, 06:48:39 AM »
NO,NO,NO,NO.A violation of civil rights.Unless we drug test ever congressman,senator,congressional paige and give them breathelyzer tests before votes then NO!Enough of the government sticking their nose into our buisiness.

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Re: Drug testing to receive unemployment benefits
« Reply #8 on: January 22, 2010, 07:42:54 AM »
NO,NO,NO,NO.A violation of civil rights.Unless we drug test ever congressman,senator,congressional paige and give them breathelyzer tests before votes then NO!Enough of the government sticking their nose into our buisiness.

Now hold on one second, people go and apply for welfare to get money from the tax payer ( notice I didn't say government ), why should I as a tax payer have to bankroll someone's drug habbit?
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Re: Drug testing to receive unemployment benefits
« Reply #9 on: January 22, 2010, 07:45:37 AM »
Now hold on one second, people go and apply for welfare to get money from the tax payer ( notice I didn't say government ), why should I as a tax payer have to bankroll someone's drug habbit?

The government employees are paid by the tax payer.Why should my tax money go to pay for Patrick Kennedys drug habbit?Should we also make sure these people go to church?Eat right?Excersise?How much government do you want?If it were up to me there would be no such thing as welfare,but just because you recieve it,we have no right to know what you do or how you do it.

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Re: Drug testing to receive unemployment benefits
« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2010, 07:51:37 AM »
The government employees are paid by the tax payer.Why should my tax money go to pay for Patrick Kennedys drug habbit?Should we also make sure these people go to church?Eat right?Excersise?How much government do you want?If it were up to me there would be no such thing as welfare,but just because you recieve it,we have no right to know what you do or how you do it.

Instead of drug testing, how about we make these people show up for garbage cleanup in the parks and streets?

Instead of Drug Testing, how about we make these people clean up abandoned inner city lots littered with trash?   

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Re: Drug testing to receive unemployment benefits
« Reply #11 on: January 22, 2010, 08:01:00 AM »
The government employees are paid by the tax payer.Why should my tax money go to pay for Patrick Kennedys drug habbit?Should we also make sure these people go to church?Eat right?Excersise?How much government do you want?If it were up to me there would be no such thing as welfare,but just because you recieve it,we have no right to know what you do or how you do it.

That may be the case, but Kennedy was elected by the people of RI, so in essence they have volunteered to pay for his drug habbit. I don't want government in my life never have and never will, but at some point a line has to be drawn. Welfare was designed to be a hand up not a hand out, so I agree that as far as I'm concerned welfare should be limited for how long a person can collect or just be shit canned all together. I don't really care about how they live their lives per say, but I do have a problem with people abusing the system to get high. It is nothing more than a legal way to steal from your fellow Americans.
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Re: Drug testing to receive unemployment benefits
« Reply #12 on: January 22, 2010, 08:48:25 AM »
That may be the case, but Kennedy was elected by the people of RI, so in essence they have volunteered to pay for his drug habbit. I don't want government in my life never have and never will, but at some point a line has to be drawn. Welfare was designed to be a hand up not a hand out, so I agree that as far as I'm concerned welfare should be limited for how long a person can collect or just be shit canned all together. I don't really care about how they live their lives per say, but I do have a problem with people abusing the system to get high. It is nothing more than a legal way to steal from your fellow Americans.

I actually prefer they use drugs with the money.Hopefully as many of them as possible die of an overdose.I dont care what they do with the money.Im pissed off that they get ANY of my money.Perhaps instead of drug testing,we make them learn how to wear their pants around their waists instead of around their ass.

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Re: Drug testing to receive unemployment benefits
« Reply #13 on: January 22, 2010, 01:00:40 PM »
for welfare of unemployment? As far as welfare is concerned, as a tax payer I want to know what these fuckers are up to. Unemployment 50/50


As long as you are drug tested to earn your money, welfare recipients should be drug tested to receive your money paid in taxes.

Welfare overhaul – govt. hands over your (there’s that word, again) money to help the first child / existing children of welfare recipients. If you have any more after that, you’re on your own!
If you’re broke, you’re not in any position to expand the size of your family.
So DON'T!
And let's not reward the former behavior.


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Re: Drug testing to receive unemployment benefits
« Reply #14 on: January 22, 2010, 02:26:19 PM »
For welfare, yes.
Not a big fan of drug testing for jobs (even though I am an MRO)

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Re: Drug testing to receive unemployment benefits
« Reply #15 on: January 22, 2010, 06:22:20 PM »
I read about four of these reply's and got sick to my stomach.  Where do some of you guys live where you think that someone should not have to take a drug test to recieve GOVERNMENT HANDOUTS?  I have taken pre employment drug screenings for any job I have.  And I drive a company vehicle, so if some jackass backs into me in a Wendy's parking lot, guess what, I go take a piss in a cup.  And if I piss hot, I am out of a job.  Should be the same for pathetic welfare losers.  There is a Food Lion right near my house, and I wont go there because of what I saw the last time I was there.  A woman who was on her cell phone(had a phone) and was buying similac with a EBT card(guess it's too embarrassing for them to carry food stamps now), paid cash for some cigarettes and blunts.  Now, what I took from that, was she was spending my money on cigs and drugs.  It pisses me off that  these people live in a govt subsidized housing project right down at the oceanfront.  I pay good money to live at the beach, and these people live there for free.  They should bulldoze the houses and make it resort area, so more tax money can be generated. 









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Re: Drug testing to receive unemployment benefits
« Reply #16 on: January 22, 2010, 06:29:04 PM »
yeah, I think if you're willing to take govt money, you should be willing to piss in a cup to ensure you're not breaking the law.

How pissed are you when somebody on welfare gets arrested for drugs?  I mean, YOU paid for that shit they're shooting up.  It's not like it's some joe blow using his paycheck to buy dope.  No, this cat is sitting at home, getting high off the tax money you pay.  That's some BS right there.  I think you should be willing to take a piss test for ANY free govt money- hell, that should include pell grants and other handouts too.

if you don't like it, go earn the $ yourself and stop applying for handouts :(

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Re: Drug testing to receive unemployment benefits
« Reply #17 on: January 22, 2010, 06:54:28 PM »
Yep.
The government doesn't earn one single penny it spends.
It all comes from our taxes, which translates to those handouts being YOUR MONEY!

It's bad enough they don't have to work to take from you the money you had to work for...
If you do drugs, you're inelgible to earn that money.
They do drugs, don't work, and get yours & every other hard-working American's money for free...
At least make them do some type of community service FFS!

Explain to me how this system is good.


There's a rewards system that gives them a U.S. Treasury check for every baby they have.
If you or I didn't have the money for a larger family, we'd stop having kids.

The best part is - if they do attempt to work, the govt. reduces or stops their monthly checks. They made more not working, and in their eyes, they're actually penalized for trying to work. Well, that's incentive.
They ought to be penalized for not working!!!

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Hey, a lot of people fall on hard times.
How about we help you out with full pay for 3 months while you look for another job. After 3 months your payments are stopped until you find some kind of employment.
Sure, the economy is shit, but if you get a job making $9/hr. we'll chip in some to help you make ends meet.

And if you have a kid before you're financially ready, we'll contribute a little bit to help with that, too. But if it happens again, the only further govt. assistance you'll get is an all expense paid trip to "Dr. Snip."






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Re: Drug testing to receive unemployment benefits
« Reply #18 on: January 22, 2010, 06:57:02 PM »
if the college kid next door came by and borrowed $5 every day for tuition... then you saw him smoking pot with his friends... wouldn't you want to tell him to bite the curb?

kind of the same thing here. 

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Re: Drug testing to receive unemployment benefits
« Reply #19 on: January 22, 2010, 06:59:28 PM »
Yeah, but there's not ONE politician who will say that to the "college kid" because they wouldn't want to piss off other "college kids" and risk losing votes.


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Re: Drug testing to receive unemployment benefits
« Reply #20 on: January 22, 2010, 07:00:56 PM »
if the college kid next door came by and borrowed $5 every day for tuition... then you saw him smoking pot with his friends... wouldn't you want to tell him to bite the curb?

kind of the same thing here. 

who is to say he bought the weed.  I have smoked plenty without buying it myself.