Engineered Earthquake? US is Occupying Haiti as Troops Flood In

[Fury]

I'd love to comment on this "HAARP Earthquake Machine" theory... but I fear it might lead to the thread being locked.



The Luke

Please do. I'd like to see something beyond an unfounded claim that proves HAARP can produce earthquakes.

[SAMSON123]

I'd love to comment on this "HAARP Earthquake Machine" theory... but I fear it might lead to the thread being locked.



The Luke

Anything of any intelligence should not cause a LOCKING of the thread...

[Parker]

hugo is just hedging his bets, trying to get the world riled up with anti-american sentiment as we are indeed taking advantage of this crisis to set up bases within striking distance of hugo.

As far as the technology-
we announced in 1997 that the use of earthquake technology was a serious threat to our national security.

now, would we unleash it like this?   No way.  But if Russia had the technology and suddenly we saw them setting up crazy bases after an earthquake hit cuba, then suddenly we would have whitehouse voices leaking suspicion on russia for it.

It's CT, but not for the technology.  rather, for the fact if you used it and it was leaked, the world would probably collectively vote your ass off the island.

You saying G-mo closes and a Haitian one opens?

[240 is Back]

I think we would use haiti for a helluva lot more than just keeping al-Q someplace.  I think it's a valuable strategic location in an area of the world that is a HUGE deal in the coming decades.

The technology was there 13 years ago when agency chiefs admitted there is concern our enemies might use engineered weather, and specifically earthquakes, on us.

Now, do we have it?  Common sense would say if our enemies had it a decade ago, we probably have a pretty good idea how it works now.


Did we use anything like that on haiti?  There is zero evidence of this.  Zero.  World leaders making accusation is a HUGE deal - maybe they see a lot of shit we don't - But us peons have seen zero evidence of US doing anything aside from moving in quick to capitalize on a natural event.

[Fury]

I think we would use haiti for a helluva lot more than just keeping al-Q someplace.  I think it's a valuable strategic location in an area of the world that is a HUGE deal in the coming decades.

The technology was there 13 years ago when agency chiefs admitted there is concern our enemies might use engineered weather, and specifically earthquakes, on us.

Now, do we have it?  Common sense would say if our enemies had it a decade ago, we probably have a pretty good idea how it works now.


Did we use anything like that on haiti?  There is zero evidence of this.  Zero.  World leaders making accusation is a HUGE deal - maybe they see a lot of shit we don't - But us peons have seen zero evidence of US doing anything aside from moving in quick to capitalize on a natural event.

Do you honestly believe that Hugo Chavez is privy to information that we aren't? Keep in mind some of the other claims this guy has made over the years.

[The Luke]

This entire HAARP high-frequency microwave antennas being used to trigger earthquakes thing is decidedly bullshitty.

Also, the entire Yucatan area is sitting on shattered tectonic plates (geophys surveys have shown that the crust is fractured to a depth of 64 km), which of course is to be expected considering that this is where the asteroid that killed off the dinosaurs impacted, some 65 million years ago. (KT Boundary event)

So... even if you had a device that could trigger earthquakes... you couldn't use it anywhere in or around the Yucatan.


Here's an analogy:
You might be able to collapse a building by strategically knocking out one of it's support columns (ie: triggering a slip at tectonic pressure point) but you couldn't collapse a pile of rubble by hitting it with a sledgehammer (ie: the plates are already shattered and they haven't been mapped, so your earthquake machine would be firing blind).


Add to this the fact that no one has ever demonstrated or even theoretically outlined a mechanism for triggering earthquakes using super high-frequency microwave/radiowave fields.

Just saying...



The Luke

[240 is Back]

"Do you honestly believe that Hugo Chavez is privy to information that we aren't? Keep in mind some of the other claims this guy has made over the years. "


YES.

hugo is the leader of a nation that is very much in alliance with Russia on many levels, particularly militarily. 

if you don't think Russia has better intel than your everyday getbigger, well...

[Hugo Chavez]

I'd love to comment on this "HAARP Earthquake Machine" theory... but I fear it might lead to the thread being locked.



The Luke

Luke, the thread was bumped 4 times over several days by bf without additional comment from anyone.  Don't pull that if you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.  Had you or anyone else added to the thread I wouldn't have touched it.  Sitting there watching a thread get bumped over and over with nobody adding, who the fuck wouldn't lock it.....

[Fury]

Luke, the thread was bumped 4 times over several days by bf without additional comment from anyone.  Don't pull that if you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.  Had you or anyone else added to the thread I wouldn't have touched it.  Sitting there watching a thread get bumped over and over with nobody adding, who the fuck wouldn't lock it.....

The fuck are you talking about? This thread was never bumped by me, and certainly not four times over several days. This is about the fifth thread on the same topic. And each one is as ridiculous as the last.

Don't try to hang the fact that you control this board like a dictatorship around my neck, you pathetic fag.

And to top it off, The Luke's posts on this topic will be ignored by all you tinfoil hat wearing douche bags. Can't wait for thread #6 about this.  

[Bindare_Dundat]

This entire HAARP high-frequency microwave antennas being used to trigger earthquakes thing is decidedly bullshitty.

Also, the entire Yucatan area is sitting on shattered tectonic plates (geophys surveys have shown that the crust is fractured to a depth of 64 km), which of course is to be expected considering that this is where the asteroid that killed off the dinosaurs impacted, some 65 million years ago. (KT Boundary event)

So... even if you had a device that could trigger earthquakes... you couldn't use it anywhere in or around the Yucatan.


Here's an analogy:
You might be able to collapse a building by strategically knocking out one of it's support columns (ie: triggering a slip at tectonic pressure point) but you couldn't collapse a pile of rubble by hitting it with a sledgehammer (ie: the plates are already shattered and they haven't been mapped, so your earthquake machine would be firing blind).


Add to this the fact that no one has ever demonstrated or even theoretically outlined a mechanism for triggering earthquakes using super high-frequency microwave/radiowave fields.

Just saying...



The Luke

Well that settles it. It was definitely HARP.

[240 is Back]

LOL... I love how people on getbig completely understand all the weapons technology our govt has to offer.

I mean, in a world where 11-year old girls are updating their facebook status with I-pods and we're using our cell phones to open our garage doors...

Surely the govt doesn't have any cool next-level shit we don't know about.  I mean, if they did, they'd tell us.  They have to - we elected them, right guys?

[Fury]

LOL... I love how people on getbig completely understand all the weapons technology our govt has to offer.

I mean, in a world where 11-year old girls are updating their facebook status with I-pods and we're using our cell phones to open our garage doors...

Surely the govt doesn't have any cool next-level shit we don't know about.  I mean, if they did, they'd tell us.  They have to - we elected them, right guys?

So your entire argument is built around the assumption that the government may have a weapon that can cause earthquakes. Meanwhile, a valid argument that makes sense is probably wrong because the govt. may have a weapon. This board gets funnier by the day.

LOL... I love how people on getbig think the govt. is this big bad bully out to destroy the world and is full of people who have no problem killing hundreds of thousands to further their shadowy aims.


I think some people need to stop watching movies.

[Hugo Chavez]

The fuck are you talking about? This thread was never bumped by me, and certainly not four times over several days. This is about the fifth thread on the same topic. And each one is as ridiculous as the last.

Don't try to hang the fact that you control this board like a dictatorship around my neck, you pathetic fag.

And to top it off, The Luke's posts on this topic will be ignored by all you tinfoil hat wearing douche bags. Can't wait for thread #6 about this.  

remember what I said I would happen the next time you were caught in a pure lie?  That didn't take you long.  You did bump it several times and when nobody replied after your several bumps, I deleted your bumps and locked the topic.  YOU LIE!

[Fury]

remember what I said I would happen the next time you were caught in a pure lie?  That didn't take you long.  You did bump it several times and when nobody replied after your several bumps, I deleted your bumps and locked the topic.  YOU LIE!

You lying piece of shit. I was talking with 240 in another thread. You deleted my posts in your fit of teenage angst. This thread was started at 12 am PST TODAY so unless I'm going back in time and bumping threads that haven't been started yet I think it's safe to say that I haven't been bumping anything over the course of several days. 

Move along you sniveling c*nt.

[Kazan]

I can't wait til we got one of these

[240 is Back]

berserk, my argument is that the head of the cia, in 1997, said our enemies using earthquake technologo to attack america is a very serious threat.


that's some scary shit.  Maybe the russians had it in 97, maybe someone else, but if the top intel guy in the nation assigns value to it, it is pretty real. I have no clue this harp stuff.... but i do believe that if the technology was real enough to consider it a real threat a decade ago, it's still around today.  

I assign zero value to the venez president and his claims - but I do believe the technology is real.

[Fury]

berserk, my argument is that the head of the cia, in 1997, said our enemies using earthquake technologo to attack america is a very serious threat.


that's some scary shit.  Maybe the russians had it in 97, maybe someone else, but if the top intel guy in the nation assigns value to it, it is pretty real. I have no clue this harp stuff.... but i do believe that if the technology was real enough to consider it a real threat a decade ago, it's still around today.  

I assign zero value to the venez president and his claims - but I do believe the technology is real.

Can you refute any of the luke's post? Or is it acceptable to just conjure up theories out of thin air?

The idea of an antennae in Alaska causing an earthquake is hilarious. Something out of a B-rate Hollywood movie.

[Hugo Chavez]

You lying piece of shit. I was talking with 240 in another thread. You deleted my posts in your fit of teenage angst. This thread was started at 12 am PST TODAY so unless I'm going back in time and bumping threads that haven't been started yet I think it's safe to say that I haven't been bumping anything over the course of several days.

Move along you sniveling c*nt.

that's not the thread we were talking about you fucking liar and you know it.  I didn't lock the thread you're talking about. we're posting now....  I deleted your lousy trolling efforts just like I'll be doing today and tomorrow and probably after that.  

[240 is Back]

I'm not addressing Luke's post.

The chief of the cia said 13 years ago that it's a very real threat to the USA.

As far as I'm concerned, there is no arguement beyond that.  The shit is out there... somebody has it or he wouldn't have said it.  I would'n't accuse harp or anone else of such a terrible crime against humanity - my only statement is that it's real.  This comes not from me, but from a guy at the very top of the intel food chain - He knows his shit better than we do.

it'd be silly for use peons to argue something so far above our pay grade.  NONE of us knows what the nations of the world can or can't do... to claim we know would be just plain asinine. 

venez president is shitting his britches right now, sure.  we just set up a lot of forces right across the street from him.

[Fury]

I'm not addressing Luke's post.

The chief of the cia said 13 years ago that it's a very real threat to the USA.

As far as I'm concerned, there is no arguement beyond that.  The shit is out there... somebody has it or he wouldn't have said it.  I would'n't accuse harp or anone else of such a terrible crime against humanity - my only statement is that it's real.  This comes not from me, but from a guy at the very top of the intel food chain - He knows his shit better than we do.

it'd be silly for use peons to argue something so far above our pay grade.  NONE of us knows what the nations of the world can or can't do... to claim we know would be just plain asinine.  

venez president is shitting his britches right now, sure.  we just set up a lot of forces right across the street from him.

You do know that Puerto Rico is closer to Venezuela than Haiti is, right? You don't think the US would take advantage of the two or dozen or so bases that are closed (but still operable if needed) there should we go to war with Venezuela?

And I take it you're not refuting The Luke's post because you can't. It's ok. It will go ignored like any other logical post regarding this topic.  

Let's keep on the Hollywood path and claiming (without evidence) that an antennae in Alaska can cause earthquakes in the Caribbean.

[240 is Back]

there's no point in arguing a point on a message board when it's long been established by the govt that the technology is real.

Of course, I can see arguing we could never intentionally do such a terrible act - and I agree with that.  But denying the technology exists, when men of authority in our govt say it's real, it kinda like arguing Santa is real even after mom and dad tell you it was all a lie.

[Fury]

there's no point in arguing a point on a message board when it's long been established by the govt that the technology is real.

Of course, I can see arguing we could never intentionally do such a terrible act - and I agree with that.  But denying the technology exists, when men of authority in our govt say it's real, it kinda like arguing Santa is real even after mom and dad tell you it was all a lie.

Hahah, take the easy way out. The fact that the technology exists doesn't mean that it's able to cause an earthquake in Haiti. Is that hard for you to comprehend?

"the entire Yucatan area is sitting on shattered tectonic plates (geophys surveys have shown that the crust is fractured to a depth of 64 km), which of course is to be expected considering that this is where the asteroid that killed off the dinosaurs impacted, some 65 million years ago. (KT Boundary event)

So... even if you had a device that could trigger earthquakes... you couldn't use it anywhere in or around the Yucatan."

This seems to be refuted by everything I've read on this since he pointed that out. And I've yet to see it proven false by any of these HAARP nutcases. It's cool, though. We'll get people like Samson thumping their chest and making 5,000 word caps-locked filled posts that are devoid of anything close to evidence to wash it away.

I do enjoy how Russia and Venezuela have apparently become reliable sources of information. Anything to hang onto and prove a point, I suppose.

[240 is Back]

i never said what happened in haiti was the result of any shady business.  As far as I know, they sit on a fault and evreybody knew it was just a matter of time.  I've said form post #1 that chavez is wrong, and that there is no evidence of any shady shit here.

however, when people here said 'this type of technology doesn't exist', then I saw the head of intel of the USA admitted 13 years ago that not only does it exist, but it's something our intelligence community worries very much about being used on the US of A, I had to point it out.

Either the technology exists, or the head of the cia was lying.  me, I trust the guy (and his knowledge way above what we'll ever see) way more than I trust people on getbig arguing something is impossible based upon their college education.  When one of the top minds in the world tells you a weaponized earthquake is a threat to america, then it's pretty obvious the shit exists.

[240 is Back]

'The fact that the technology exists"

Hey, if you believe that... then were' on the same page. nothing to argue about.

i think the technology certainly existed 13 years ago, and it's probably a tad better today... and I also think it was NOT in use in haiti.  Do I *suspect* the reason we had men and supplies ready to go in 12 hours ahead of time, is that our ion equipment smelled a natural earthquake coming, and we know a good opprtunity when we see it?  A whole nother thread there.

[Fury]

'The fact that the technology exists"

Hey, if you believe that... then were' on the same page. nothing to argue about.

i think the technology certainly existed 13 years ago, and it's probably a tad better today... and I also think it was NOT in use in haiti.  Do I *suspect* the reason we had men and supplies ready to go in 12 hours ahead of time, is that our ion equipment smelled a natural earthquake coming, and we know a good opprtunity when we see it?  A whole nother thread there.

I'm not saying I believe it or not. The CIA has postured before. It's very likely that they would leak something like that to SCARE people. Misinformation and scare tactics are something they excel at. So believing that it exists because the CIA admitted it is a little foolhardy.

And maybe the reason we had supplies ready to rock is because of the crapfest that occured after Katrina? Shocker that the govt. may have been more prepared for another natural disaster.

This is why these CTs are so idiotic. They hang onto the most minute detail (while ignoring or avoiding facts) to prove that they're real.