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Re: The Official Michele Bachmann 2012 Appreciation Thread
« Reply #200 on: March 26, 2011, 09:39:50 PM »
beating bama by whatever means is my first goal   

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Re: The Official Michele Bachmann 2012 Appreciation Thread
« Reply #201 on: March 26, 2011, 09:43:09 PM »
beating bama by whatever means is my first goal   
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you continually rank trump above many gop candidates who are pro-gun and anti-obamacare.

I don't understand that.  it's like you dont even care about these 2 huge issues you argue about every day.

bachmann ain't coming after guns - but trump is on record saying he supports assault weapons ban.  Obama hasn't even said that on the record, has he?

paul ryan will repeal obamacare - but trump has said he supports universal healthcare.

newt supports buch tax cuts - as does obama - but trump wanted to tax the shit out of the rich to fix the deficit.


So by the issues, trump's a freaking liberal.  Libby myLibbers.  total code pink, cindy sheehan, wuss central.  And you love the dude.  why?

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Re: The Official Michele Bachmann 2012 Appreciation Thread
« Reply #202 on: March 27, 2011, 05:46:30 AM »
how can anyone want this nut job liar to run for pres, really is thie the best the repubs have to offer that they have to stand behind her  :D

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Re: The Official Michele Bachmann 2012 Appreciation Thread
« Reply #203 on: March 27, 2011, 06:59:12 PM »
I disagree.  I think most reasonable people will applaud her and her husband for helping so many children.  Nothing weird about that at all. 

A great majority of foster providers do it strictly for the additional income and are abusive in one form or another. They cycle kids in and out without ever making a difference or for that matter having any positive impact on their life, usually negative.

Obviously she doesnt need the cash, but it's still pretty strange and probably didn't have any impact on the kids because they were in and out so fast. Looks strictly like political posturing from the outside, otherwise she wouldve adopted and made a difference in at least one kids life.

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Re: The Official Michele Bachmann 2012 Appreciation Thread
« Reply #204 on: March 27, 2011, 07:08:39 PM »
how can anyone want this nut job liar to run for pres, really is thie the best the repubs have to offer that they have to stand behind her  :D

She will never get a national appeal, better to try and force Palin down everyones throat. Best chance is Trump to get hot and pull an upset, otherwise 4 more years.

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Re: The Official Michele Bachmann 2012 Appreciation Thread
« Reply #205 on: March 27, 2011, 07:10:43 PM »
A great majority of foster providers do it strictly for the additional income and are abusive in one form or another. They cycle kids in and out without ever making a difference or for that matter having any positive impact on their life, usually negative.

Obviously she doesnt need the cash, but it's still pretty strange and probably didn't have any impact on the kids because they were in and out so fast. Looks strictly like political posturing from the outside, otherwise she wouldve adopted and made a difference in at least one kids life.


Pretty broad brush.  Are you a social worker? 

Do you know the specific circumstances of her foster kids?  Why there taken in, how long they stayed, and what became of them? 

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Re: The Official Michele Bachmann 2012 Appreciation Thread
« Reply #206 on: March 27, 2011, 07:16:50 PM »
Pretty broad brush.  Are you a social worker? 

Do you know the specific circumstances of her foster kids?  Why there taken in, how long they stayed, and what became of them? 

Regardless of the circumstance, it's obvious she was an underground railroad type of caregiver, shuttling them from one point to the next.

Not bashing her, or painting her with that brush. She probably tried to do something positive in her own vision and may have. I'm just saying it comes across as a bit odd, and while it will be played up as a positive by her camp, the general public will look at it with a raised eyebrow, as I do, without ever saying anything against it, because it wouldnt be pc.


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Re: The Official Michele Bachmann 2012 Appreciation Thread
« Reply #207 on: March 27, 2011, 07:26:37 PM »
Regardless of the circumstance, it's obvious she was an underground railroad type of caregiver, shuttling them from one point to the next.

Not bashing her, or painting her with that brush. She probably tried to do something positive in her own vision and may have. I'm just saying it comes across as a bit odd, and while it will be played up as a positive by her camp, the general public will look at it with a raised eyebrow, as I do, without ever saying anything against it, because it wouldnt be pc.



How do you know she was an "underground railroad type caregiver"?  What are the specific circumstances of her foster kids?  How old were they when she took them in?  How long did she keep them?  How did they turn out? 

And yes, this is a broad brush: 

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A great majority of foster providers do it strictly for the additional income and are abusive in one form or another. They cycle kids in and out without ever making a difference or for that matter having any positive impact on their life, usually negative.


How do you know this? 

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Re: The Official Michele Bachmann 2012 Appreciation Thread
« Reply #208 on: March 27, 2011, 07:32:44 PM »
How do you know she was an "underground railroad type caregiver"?  What are the specific circumstances of her foster kids?  How old were they when she took them in?  How long did she keep them?  How did they turn out? 

I'm assuming she didn't start when she was 18 yoa. So I don't know, how well do you think you could parent 30 kids working a full time plus job over a 20 year period or so? Even if she did her best, it's odd to me. I'm willing to leave it at that.


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Re: The Official Michele Bachmann 2012 Appreciation Thread
« Reply #209 on: March 27, 2011, 07:39:51 PM »
I'm assuming she didn't start when she was 18 yoa. So I don't know, how well do you think you could parent 30 kids working a full time plus job over a 20 year period or so? Even if she did her best, it's odd to me. I'm willing to leave it at that.



So you really don't know much, if anything, about the specific circumstances of her foster kids.  Pretty hard to make judgments about her motives, the quality of care, and how well (or poorly) the kids turned out when you don't have very much information. 

I don't know much about her situation, but I do know a number of foster parents and I know a number of large families.  In my experience, people who voluntarily take in large numbers of children and those with big families by and large have big hearts and do their best to raise good kids.  They're good people.  I'm sure you can find some foster parents who do it for the money, but that is one hard way to make a little extra cash. 

I'll be surprised if a significant number of people think it's weird that the Bachmanns opened their home to so many disadvantaged kids.  If those kids were abused or neglected, I'm sure we'll hear from them.   

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Re: The Official Michele Bachmann 2012 Appreciation Thread
« Reply #210 on: March 27, 2011, 07:45:41 PM »
She seems like a very religious person, and it seems like she wants to make a difference in their lives.  It is a very good financial move for her too.

Minnesota pays $30 a day, tax free, per foster kid.

So if Bachmann has fostered 23 children, let’s say for an average of five years, that would come out to a non-taxable $1,259,250.

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Re: The Official Michele Bachmann 2012 Appreciation Thread
« Reply #211 on: March 28, 2011, 10:39:08 AM »
Minnesota pays $30 a day, tax free, per foster kid.

So if Bachmann has fostered 23 children, let’s say for an average of five years, that would come out to a non-taxable $1,259,250.

Pretty decent play money, in addition to everything she ever spent money on during that time period being a tax write off. She probably has a decent heart, but obviously is very self aware and not bad at trying to posture herself for self promotion. Still very odd considering most parents can't get it right with 1 or 2 kids.  :-\







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Re: The Official Michele Bachmann 2012 Appreciation Thread
« Reply #212 on: March 28, 2011, 10:44:22 AM »
maybe she needed the money because she couldn't live comfortably off farm subsidies and her husbands income from curing people of the gay

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Re: The Official Michele Bachmann 2012 Appreciation Thread
« Reply #213 on: March 29, 2011, 10:52:45 AM »

Bachmann to address Ralph Reed's 'Faith'
By: CNN's Rebecca Stewart

(CNN) - Add another pre-campaign stump to GOP Rep. Michele Bachmann's schedule. Ralph Reed, chairman of the Faith and Freedom Coalition, tweeted news Monday of Bachmann's confirmed attendance at the group's conference and strategy briefing to be held in D.C. on June 3-4.

Bachmann will address the conference, billed as a "top destination for conservative activists who want to learn how to beat the Left," according to the Faith and Freedom Coalition website. The third-term congresswoman is expected to announce a presidential exploratory committee in June, the first official step toward a presidential candidacy.

FFC is described as an organization committed to "mobilizing people of faith and like-minded individuals to be effective citizens." Five presidential candidates have also confirmed attendance for the conference, according to JoAnne Reed, Director of Operations for the group and wife of Ralph Reed. An announcement for the final speaker's list and program, including the mystery attendees, is expected in the next two weeks.

Invited speakers include a who's who of potential GOP presidential candidates like former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin and former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, former Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty, and former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee. Breakout sessions cover topics from "The Future of the Tea Party Movement" and "Keys to Victory in 2012," to "Combating Liberal Media Bias."

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/03/29/bachmann-too-address-ralph-reeds-faith/#more-151985

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Re: The Official Michele Bachmann 2012 Appreciation Thread
« Reply #214 on: March 29, 2011, 07:10:59 PM »
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Michele Bachmann 2012?
Iowa eyes the Tea Party darling from Minnesota.


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If Michele Bachmann decides to run for president, a likely possibility considering she will form an exploratory committee this summer, she could be a game-changer in Iowa — and possibly win the caucuses.

“If she does decide to run, Iowa will be incredibly favorable. She’s a natural Tea Party type of a candidate,” says Ryan Rhodes, chair of the Iowa Tea Party.

The Minnesota Republican congresswoman is currently on her fourth visit to Iowa over the past year. This trip, which began with an Iowa homeschooling convention and concluded with Rep. Steve King’s Conservative Principles Conference, gave her the opportunity to burnish her conservative credentials and establish relationships with Iowa’s movers and shakers.


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Bachmann, who was born and partly raised in Iowa, is benefiting from her connection to the state. “I don’t think that Iowans look for a person from their state. But it’s a great way to open a speech, it’s just sort of a way to break down some of those barriers,” observes Iowa GOP strategist Bob Haus.

“She’s from Iowa originally, and I think that’s a huge, almost accidental positive that a lot of people have gravitated towards in a presidential candidate,” agrees Rhodes.

But Rhodes also sees her appeal to Iowans as broader than her Hawkeye origins, noting how Bachmann’s personal experience as a homeschooling mother gave her credibility when addressing homeschoolers earlier this week. “She has so many unique stories that are almost perfect for each and every segment,” Rhodes remarks.

Neither should Bachmann be written off as the social-conservative candidate; she’s also proven her appeal to more fiscally oriented voters. Edward Failor, president of Iowans for Tax Relief, says that Bachmann’s January speech to his group drew “a really solid turnout” of 300, with about 30 to 40 percent of them newcomers to the group.

“She has ‘it,’” says Failor, talking about Bachmann’s appeal. “Whatever ‘it’ is, however you define it, that draws people, and that’s a real big benefit for her.”

Ultimately, in what promises to be a crowded GOP 2012 field, personality, not policy, may be key. “Because most of these candidates are probably going to be somewhat similar on the issues, I think caucus-goers will be looking for people that are pretty vocal, adamant about trying [to] push back against the march toward socialism if they’re elected,” says Steve Scheffler, president of Iowa Faith and Freedom Coalition.

“They are looking for somebody with steel in their spine, and Congresswoman Michele Bachmann certainly has that,” he adds.

Another crucial factor could be Bachmann’s longstanding friendship with influential Iowa Republican Rep. Steve King. The two have shared staff, and Bachmann has previously touted King as a possible presidential contender.

“She has a very strong friendship, a professional [and] philosophical friendship with Rep. Steven King, who is a great retail campaigner, who has an immense following in the conservative movement here in the state,” says Haus, adding that he would guess King would endorse Bachmann.

Bachmann, who founded the congressional Tea Party Caucus, is likely to appeal to some voters because of her leadership in the Tea Party movement. “She stood on the steps of the Capitol [arguing] against the health-care bill. She’s been standing against it since day one, and continues to say it must be repealed, and that’s a major, major issue for tea partiers,” observes Rhodes, referring to Bachmann’s 2009 rally against Obamacare.

Bachmann’s lack of executive experience (she was a Minnesota state senator prior to being elected to the House) isn’t likely to be a deal-breaker for voters. “There are other candidates in the race that clearly have that executive [pedigree]. Her appeal is not about being an executive, it’s about the black-and-white philosophical direction of the country,” says Haus, saying that possible Bachmann supporters would probably place executive experience lower on their priority list.

If she does mount a candidacy, the general sense seems to be that she will prove a formidable competitor in the Iowa caucuses. “Michele Bachmann would do extremely well,” remarks Rhodes.

“I think it’s a wide-open field,” Haus says. “Anybody who jumps in and applies maximum effort is going to do well. I think that any preconceived notions about who may or may not be a frontrunner right now are completely wrong.”

“Some of the newer people on the block,” he adds, specifically noting Bachmann and Mississippi governor Haley Barbour, “are going to make a tremendous impact this time.”

— Katrina Trinko is an NRO staff reporter.
 


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Re: The Official Michele Bachmann 2012 Appreciation Thread
« Reply #215 on: March 29, 2011, 07:25:58 PM »
she can't lose iowa. 

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Re: The Official Michele Bachmann 2012 Appreciation Thread
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Re: The Official Michele Bachmann 2012 Appreciation Thread
« Reply #217 on: March 31, 2011, 07:26:14 PM »
Angry Bachmann Unloads: Obama’s a Hypocrite—Dems Plan to Shut Down Govt
Newsmax ^ | 3/31/11 | Jim Meyers and Ashley Martella




Congresswoman and tea party leader Michele Bachmann tells Newsmax she will flat-out refuse to support any budget bill that does not include the defunding of President Obama’s healthcare reform plan.

The Minnesota Republican, who is considering a run for president in 2012, also charges that Democrats are playing “political games” by seeking to shut down the government in the belief they would benefit politically.

And she declares that Obama has to “eat his words” uttered three years ago when he said a president has no power to take the same action the Obama administration has taken in Libya.

Democrats in the Senate have proposed $33 billion in spending cuts, while House Republicans want $61 billion in cuts. In an exclusive interview with Newsmax.TV, Bachmann was asked whether $33 billion in cuts would be a deal-breaker for her.

Read more on Newsmax.com: Angry Bachmann Unloads: Obama’s a Hypocrite—Dems Plan to Shut Down Govt Important: Do You Support Pres. Obama's Re-Election? Vote Here Now!


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Re: The Official Michele Bachmann 2012 Appreciation Thread
« Reply #218 on: April 01, 2011, 12:14:10 PM »
Angry Bachmann Unloads: Obama’s a Hypocrite—Dems Plan to Shut Down Govt
Newsmax ^ | 3/31/11 | Jim Meyers and Ashley Martella




Congresswoman and tea party leader Michele Bachmann tells Newsmax she will flat-out refuse to support any budget bill that does not include the defunding of President Obama’s healthcare reform plan.

The Minnesota Republican, who is considering a run for president in 2012, also charges that Democrats are playing “political games” by seeking to shut down the government in the belief they would benefit politically.

And she declares that Obama has to “eat his words” uttered three years ago when he said a president has no power to take the same action the Obama administration has taken in Libya.

Democrats in the Senate have proposed $33 billion in spending cuts, while House Republicans want $61 billion in cuts. In an exclusive interview with Newsmax.TV, Bachmann was asked whether $33 billion in cuts would be a deal-breaker for her.

Read more on Newsmax.com: Angry Bachmann Unloads: Obama’s a Hypocrite—Dems Plan to Shut Down Govt Important: Do You Support Pres. Obama's Re-Election? Vote Here Now!


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Re: The Official Michele Bachmann 2012 Appreciation Thread
« Reply #219 on: April 01, 2011, 05:58:47 PM »
Ben Mankiewicz explains how the mainstream media has done a terrible job of exposing the radical views of Republican Congresswoman from Minnesota Michele Bachmann. As a result she is considered by some to be a serious candidate for president in 2012 to challenge Barack Obama.

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Re: The Official Michele Bachmann 2012 Appreciation Thread
« Reply #220 on: April 01, 2011, 11:59:27 PM »
Ben Mankiewicz explains how the mainstream media has done a terrible job of exposing the radical views of Republican Congresswoman from Minnesota Michele Bachmann. As a result she is considered by some to be a serious candidate for president in 2012 to challenge Barack Obama.



I made it through 3:50 (resisting the urge to stop at the beginning when I realized it was "The Young Turks").  What a load of horse manure.  Who the heck is "Ben Mankiewicz" anyway?   ::)  And talk about irony.  It's the president whose views didn't get exposed enough during the 08 campaign. 

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Re: The Official Michele Bachmann 2012 Appreciation Thread
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Re: The Official Michele Bachmann 2012 Appreciation Thread
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Re: The Official Michele Bachmann 2012 Appreciation Thread
« Reply #223 on: April 02, 2011, 07:33:12 AM »
i just cracked me one off.

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Re: The Official Michele Bachmann 2012 Appreciation Thread
« Reply #224 on: April 05, 2011, 06:12:52 AM »
Bachmann begins to overshadow Palin as more-likely White House contender
The Hill ^ | April 5, 2011 | Shane D’Aprile and Jordan Fabian





Bachmann begins to overshadow Palin as more-likely White House contender
By Shane D’Aprile and Jordan Fabian - 04/05/11 06:06 AM ET

The vacuum created by former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin’s (R) absence from the 2012 campaign trail presents a major opportunity for the woman she once hinted might share a presidential ticket with her: Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.).

With strategists and conservative activists increasingly convinced that Palin won’t make a run for the White House next year, she is losing some clout among her contingent of grassroots devotees who are eager to hit the 2012 campaign trail and rally behind an alternative to President Obama.

Bachmann, who is mulling a 2012 run, is the most obvious choice to supplant Palin in next year’s presidential contest. The Minnesota Republican is positioning herself to take up the anti-establishment mantle that vaulted Palin to Tea Party stardom.

And polls reflect Bachmann’s growing cachet. The three-term lawmaker came in second in last week’s Gallup poll that measured GOP voters’ level of intensity about the 2012 hopefuls. Palin was sixth. The poll also found that Palin had a higher unfavorable rating, 8 percent, than Bachmann, who had a 4 percent disapproval rate.

This came just a week after a Gallup poll found Palin has the highest level of name recognition among potential Republican presidential contenders, with 92 percent. Bachmann was sixth with 52 percent.

The latest Washington Post/ABC News poll found that Palin’s favorability among Republicans has fallen to just 58 percent. That’s a staggering 30-point drop over the past two years.

In addition, Palin has taken lumps from critics who point to her television contracts with The Learning Channel and Fox News and say she is more interested in being a media figure than a serious candidate for president.

Reports that the entertainment channel E! is profiling the Palins as part of its “True Hollywood Story” series don’t help the former governor’s cause.

Palin’s camp did not respond to a request for comment on Monday.

In Washington, Bachmann is one of the loudest voices warning the House Republican leadership against compromising on a pledge to cut spending by $61 billion, calling that number just “a starting point,” which is an important issue to the grassroots conservatives.

And in the early states of Iowa and New Hampshire, Bachmann is serving up the sort of red meat to crowds of conservatives that echoes Palin on the trail in 2008 and 2010.

Last year, Palin headlined a large rally in Minneapolis on behalf of Bachmann’s reelection campaign, heaping praise on her and suggesting they could even appear on the same ticket.

“Someone had better tell Washington that that pink elephant is on the move, and Michele is leading the stampede,” Palin said, according to reports.

And, in a joint interview with Fox News’s Sean Hannity, Palin was asked about the prospect of the two becoming running mates in 2012.

“Well, that sounds kind of cool. That sounds kind of cool,” Palin answered as the crowd cheered loudly.

Those close to Bachmann say she isn’t trying to supercede Palin, with one such source noting the two share “a friendship and mutual admiration.” But if Palin doesn’t run and Bachmann officially jumps in, the prospect is that Bachmann will drown out the former Alaska governor.

“She would absolutely be a force to be reckoned with among conservatives here in Iowa,” said Republican strategist Bob Haus, who called the reception Bachmann received during her recent trip to the state “impressive.”

Bachmann, he said, would go right for the heart of those voters who would make up Palin’s base in Iowa, and could do so effectively.

“She basically is Sarah Palin,” said another top Republican strategist in Iowa, who’s already signed on as an adviser to another 2012 hopeful. “In terms of her appeal to a specific part of the electorate, the two are about as similar as any two candidates get.”

Over the weekend, Iowa Gov. Terry Branstad (R) identified Bachmann as the one candidate who could compete with Palin’s conservative star power.

“If Congresswoman Bachmann gets in, she has the potential to appeal to a lot of people who might have gone for Gov. Palin,” Branstad told The New York Times. “Imagine if they both got in. That could make it really interesting.”

Palin endorsed Branstad in the GOP gubernatorial primary last cycle.

For her part, Palin hasn’t ruled out a 2012 run. She made an overseas trip to India and Israel last month, but unlike Bachmann, she’s not staffing up in key early primary states including Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina.

Even some of her former high-profile boosters in the conservative movement publicly indicate they’re looking for a new star who can truly give voice to the conservative grass roots next year.

Commentator Bill Kristol, who argued back in 2009 that Palin was all but inevitable as a presidential candidate, said late last month that she “probably shouldn’t be the Republican nominee for president” next year.

Speaking at a Vanderbilt University forum, Kristol raised questions about Palin’s decision to resign halfway through her term as Alaska governor. He also said last month that he’s been “disappointed” in her posture on the national scene since.

Palin has also cut down on her public statements via Facebook, an outlet she frequently used to get out her message last year, when she campaigned for GOP candidates and traversed the country on a book tour. The former governor wrote nearly three times the amount of Facebook posts in the run-up to the 2010 election and its aftermath (October-December) than she did in the first three months of this year, when other potential presidential candidates ratcheted up their political activity and Bachmann, in particular, became a fixture on cable news.

Still, Americans for Tax Reform President Grover Norquist said Palin’s ability to move opinion within the conservative movement hasn’t diminished nearly as much as her detractors would like to claim. Norquist said he isn’t sure whether Bachmann or any one candidate would clearly benefit if the former governor takes a pass on 2012.

“My sense is that Sarah Palin’s power comes not from the sense that people expect her to be president, or even want her to be president,” said Norquist. “Her power lies in the fact that conservatives trust her judgment and that she has this ability to serve as a stamp of approval on candidates, on ideas.”

Norquist was among a group of conservative movement leaders who met with Palin last year in Florida, a meeting that, at the time, indicated she was seriously weighing a 2012 bid. Since, said Norquist, “she’s waited, not announced she’s running, not set up a network. I think that’s why so many people don’t think she’s running. But she’ll still be a major player no matter what she decides.”

Should Palin stay out of the 2012 race, her endorsement would be coveted by hopefuls angling for conservative credibility in a Republican primary, and perhaps no rumored candidate starts in a better spot to snag that backing than Bachmann.