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How Hugo Chavez's revolution crumbled
www.washingtonpost.com
By Jackson Diehl
Monday, January 25, 2010

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While the world has been preoccupied with the crisis in Haiti, Latin America has quietly passed through a tipping point in the ideological conflict that has polarized the region -- and paralyzed U.S. diplomacy -- for most of the past decade.

The result boils down to this: Hugo Chávez's "socialism for the 21st century" has been defeated and is on its way to collapse.

During the past two weeks, just before and after the earthquake outside Port-au-Prince, the following happened: Chávez was forced to devalue the Venezuelan currency, and impose and then revoke massive power cuts in the Venezuelan capital as the country reeled from recession, double-digit inflation and the possible collapse of the national power grid. In Honduras, a seven-month crisis triggered by the attempt of a Chávez client to rupture the constitutional order quietly ended with a deal that will send him into exile even as a democratically elected moderate is sworn in as president.

Last but not least, a presidential election in Chile, the region's most successful economy, produced the first victory by a right-wing candidate since dictator Augusto Pinochet was forced from office two decades ago. Sebastián Pińera, the industrialist and champion of free markets who won, has already done something that no leader from Chile or most other Latin American nations has been willing to do in recent years: stand up to Chávez.

Venezuela is "not a democracy," Pińera said during his campaign. He also said, "Two great models have been shaped in Latin America: One of them led by people like Hugo Chávez in Venezuela, Castro in Cuba and Ortega in Nicaragua. . . . I definitely think the second model is best for Chile. And that's the model we are going to follow: democracy, rule of law, freedom of expression, alternation of power without caudillismo."

Pińera was only stating the obvious -- but it was more than his Socialist predecessor, Michelle Bachelet, or Brazil's Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva has been willing to say openly. That silence hamstrung the Bush and the Obama administrations, which felt, rightly or wrongly, that they should not be alone in pointing out Chávez's assault on democracy. Pińera has now provided Washington an opportunity to raise its voice about Venezuelan human rights violations.

He has done it at a moment when Chávez is already reeling from diplomatic blows. Honduras is one. Though the country is tiny, the power struggle between its established political elite and Chávez acolyte Manuel Zelaya turned into a regional battle between supporters and opponents of the Chávez left -- with Brazil and other leftist democracies straddling the middle.

The outcome is a victory for the United States, which was virtually the only country that backed the democratic election that broke the impasse. Honduras is the end of Chávez's crusade to export his revolution to other countries. Bolivia and Nicaragua will remain his only sure allies. Brazil's Lula, whose tolerance of Chávez has tarnished his bid to become a global statesman, will leave office at the end of this year; polls show his party's nominee trailing a more conservative candidate.

Haiti only deepens Chávez's hole. As the world watches, the United States is directing a massive humanitarian operation, and Haitians are literally cheering the arrival of U.S. Marines. Chávez has no way to reconcile those images with his central propaganda message to Latin Americans, which is that the United States is an "empire" and an evil force in the region.

Then there is the meltdown Chávez faces at home. Despite the recovery in oil prices, the Venezuelan economy is deep in recession and continues to sink even as the rest of Latin America recovers. Economists guess inflation could rise to 60 percent in the coming months. Meanwhile, due to a drought, the country is threatened with the shutdown of a hydroelectric plant that supplies 70 percent of its electricity. And Chávez's failure to invest in new plants means there is no backup. There is also the crime epidemic -- homicides have tripled since Chávez took office, making Caracas one of the world's most dangerous cities. At a recent baseball game a sign in the crowd read: "3 Strikes-Lights-Water-Insecurity/President You Struck Out."

Chávez's thugs beat up those baseball fans. The man himself is ranting about the U.S. "occupation" of Haiti; his state television even claimed that the U.S. Navy caused the earthquake using a new secret weapon. On Sunday his government ordered cable networks to drop an opposition-minded television channel.

But Chavez's approval ratings are still sinking: They've dropped to below 50 percent in Venezuela and to 34 percent in the rest of the region. The caudillo has survived a lot of bad news before and may well survive this. But the turning point in the battle between authoritarian populism and liberal democracy in Latin America has passed -- and Chávez has lost.

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Who would have guessed?  Marxism/Socialism/Communism failing?  No, what a surprise. 



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Re: How Hugo Chavez's revolution crumbled and socialism failed again.
« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2010, 07:45:22 AM »
Great article. I expect Hugo to delete this or flood it with dozens of propaganda videos on youtube.

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Re: How Hugo Chavez's revolution crumbled and socialism failed again.
« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2010, 06:03:50 AM »
What happened to the "revolucion"?

Chavez is garbage. He is like Obama. Obama blames Bush, Chavez can only blame USA.

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Re: How Hugo Chavez's revolution crumbled and socialism failed again.
« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2010, 06:40:58 AM »
What happened to the "revolucion"?

Chavez is garbage. He is like Obama. Obama blames Bush, Chavez can only blame USA.

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=318051.0

by the way, this wouldn't even be close to the first economic sabotage directed at Hugo....  This is only the latest....

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Re: How Hugo Chavez's revolution crumbled and socialism failed again.
« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2010, 07:58:43 AM »
Chavez is no Castro. His time will come when his own people will dispose of him.

I guess USA also sabotaged the elections in the other countries of South America.

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Re: How Hugo Chavez's revolution crumbled and socialism failed again.
« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2010, 08:07:36 AM »
And in further breaking news---

GB's own Hugo Chavez remains a Hugo Chavez loyalist and continues his own assault against freedom on a daily basis despite plumetting approval ratings as a moderator.

According to a gallup poll taken over the weekend, 97% of GB users on the political board ignored the question "Is Hugo Chavez a good moderator". 3% of getbig users on the political board answered "No".

This is a 100% turnover from last month where 98.5% of those asked ignored the question and 1.5% answered No.

It seems like Hugo Chavez (the moderator) is in serious trouble.

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Re: How Hugo Chavez's revolution crumbled and socialism failed again.
« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2010, 08:40:56 AM »
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actually I've received more support than I ever expected.  People PM me with a lot of support and I think they appreciate the fact that I don't sit here and kiss ass for approval.  That I am fair to everyone and that no matter how much I disagree with someone I have never failed once to deal with issues sent to me.  wether it be from the right or the left here, I have always dropped politics to help them and try and settle whatever problem there is.  I think people here appreciate that quality in me and some have expressed it to me and I'm appreciative.

There is a division.  When I post here, I post my political opinion and argue like any other person would.  When someone approaches me for a modding issue, I pride myself in doing a damned good job of dropping politics to fairly address the issue.  I do so because I think it's very important to the forum.  This forum would have a hard time functioning without an unbias view from the mods.  George, I promise you this, when and if you come to me with a problem, I will not hold bias against you.  I will fairly judge, not for you or me, but for the continuity of the forum... I promise you that and there are several here right or left that should be able to testify to that quality in me based on past events.

Count me as one of them.  

Hugo and I probably disagree more than we agree when it comes to Politics, but I support him as Moderator 100%.

Just look back when he banned Nicky Smith for a month (even though both of them voted for Obama), as he did not like the way Nicky was constantly going after a conservative member on a personal level.  

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Re: How Hugo Chavez's revolution crumbled and socialism failed again.
« Reply #8 on: January 26, 2010, 08:51:28 AM »
You are heavily drinking that Hugo kool-aid.

USA did not manipulate the ELECTIONS of those countries. People chose the leaders they wanted. Clearly a rejection of the misguided socialist policies and influence of Hugo the Cucu.

When I mentioned Castro, I was referring to staying power as leader. He started well by deceiving the poor, but like all tyrants he forgot about the people and for a long time now he has only focused in trying to strengthen his dominion. But, now the whole country is going down the toilet and the people will eventually get rid of him. History also shows tyrants and dictators have a hard time in that part of the world. Just like Che found out when he tried to spread his non-sense.

Hugo el Cucu is a failure and his people will be even bigger losers if they are as stupid as the Cubans.


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Re: How Hugo Chavez's revolution crumbled and socialism failed again.
« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2010, 08:53:14 AM »
And in further breaking news---

GB's own Hugo Chavez remains a Hugo Chavez loyalist and continues his own assault against freedom on a daily basis despite plumetting approval ratings as a moderator.

According to a gallup poll taken over the weekend, 97% of GB users on the political board ignored the question "Is Hugo Chavez a good moderator". 3% of getbig users on the political board answered "No".

This is a 100% turnover from last month where 98.5% of those asked ignored the question and 1.5% answered No.

It seems like Hugo Chavez (the moderator) is in serious trouble.

Do you remember when he started that poll asking if he should remain moderator or not? The smug douche thought he had it in the bag and he ended up losing 4:1. This board is his little fiefdom and he'll be damned if he doesn't log his 14 hours a day on here.

Then again, he is the biggest hypocrite on here. Melts down every day about how our liberties and rights are being taken away and then he supports Hugo Chavez's eradication of free speech in Venezuela. Too bad he's too dumb to admit it.

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Re: How Hugo Chavez's revolution crumbled and socialism failed again.
« Reply #10 on: January 26, 2010, 09:11:12 AM »
jack off to it BF... lol... What you're not telling anyone is that Danielson pm'd everyone on getbig, most of whom don't even post on political, to vote.  And second, I didn't care about that thread to start with because I knew Ron would not demod me lol... That was a beef between Danielson and me only... Ron knows what I do here.  He has expressed on the board in the past what I do here.  When Ron thinks I'm doing a bad job, I'm gone and that his decision to make and it's a decision I will respect because this is his board.  When Ron feels I am no longer an appropriate mod, then so be it.  So far he is happy with me as are others.  If you have a problem with me, please feel free to start a thread about it in the complaints forum....

Danielson did nothing of the sort. What did happen is that the majority of people on here voted your ass out. Much like Hugo Chavez (whose picture you jerk off to every night), you didn't relinquish moderator powers. It's not surprising given the amount of time you spend on here and how you've tried to create your own little fiefdom where you're a somebody.

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Re: How Hugo Chavez's revolution crumbled and socialism failed again.
« Reply #11 on: January 26, 2010, 09:15:12 AM »
Despite all of the news about the supposed terribleness of socialism, communism, fascism etc etc...no where in america has democracy shown itself even minuscule better than any of these other systems...As a matter of fact democracy has been the cause of massive wars, lost of life, corrupt governments, insane policies, braindead populations, many ISMs that have divided the population and genders. I see no where either financially, socially, politically, spiritually or morally where democracy is any better than the system of socialism which is so complained about. Right now thanks to CAPITALISM which is in bed with democracy, there is a world wide financial collapse....
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Re: How Hugo Chavez's revolution crumbled and socialism failed again.
« Reply #12 on: January 26, 2010, 09:22:22 AM »
Danielson did nothing of the sort. What did happen is that the majority of people on here voted your ass out. Much like Hugo Chavez (whose picture you jerk off to every night), you didn't relinquish moderator powers. It's not surprising given the amount of time you spend on here and how you've tried to create your own little fiefdom where you're a somebody.
oh cockgobblins lol... twice + the amount of people that post here voted in the poll lololol.....  It doesn't take an idiot to figure out what happened....

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Re: How Hugo Chavez's revolution crumbled and socialism failed again.
« Reply #13 on: January 26, 2010, 09:26:18 AM »
Despite all of the news about the supposed terribleness of socialism, communism, fascism etc etc...no where in america has democracy shown itself even minuscule better than any of these other systems...As a matter of fact democracy has been the cause of massive wars, lost of life, corrupt governments, insane policies, braindead populations, many ISMs that have divided the population and genders. I see no where either financially, socially, politically, spiritually or morally where democracy is any better than the system of socialism which is so complained about. Right now thanks to CAPITALISM which is in bed with democracy, there is a world wide financial collapse....

So where do you think is a good place Samson?