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Berry: Obama said "I am the difference" between '10 and '94 is "me"

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Rep. Marion Berry's parting shot, published in the Arkansas Democrat-Gazette [no link, subscription only] offers a warning to moderate Democrats and border state moderates -- warning of a midterm bloodbath comparable to the 54-seat D-to-R swing in 1994.

But the jaw-dropper is Berry's claim that President Obama personally dismissed any comparison between Democrats now and under Bill Clinton 16 years ago -- by saying his personal popularity would bail everybody out.

The retiring Berry, who doesn't say when the remarks were made, now scoffs at Obama's 50-or-below approval rating:

Writes ADG reporter Jane Fullerton:

Berry recounted meetings with White House officials, reminiscent of some during the Clinton days, where he and others urged them not to force Blue Dogs “off into that swamp” of supporting bills that would be unpopular with voters back home.

“I’ve been doing that with this White House, and they just don’t seem to give it any credibility at all,” Berry said. “They just kept telling us how good it was going to be. The president himself, when that was brought up in one group, said, ‘Well, the big difference here and in ’94 was you’ve got me.’ We’re going to see how much difference that makes now.” [snip]

“I began to preach last January that we had already seen this movie and we didn’t want to see it again because we know how it comes out,” said Arkansas’ 1st District congressman, who worked in the Clinton administration before being elected to the House in 1996... "I just began to have flashbacks to 1993 and ’94. No one that was here in ’94, or at the day after the election felt like. It certainly wasn’t a good feeling.”

Whole article after the jump.

WASHINGTON — As Democrats, reeling from the loss of the Massachusetts Senate seat, mull over how to proceed, U.S. Rep. Marion Berry and others involved in the last major effort to overhaul the health-care system are struck by a sense of political deja vu.

The 1993-94 endeavor collapsed during President Bill Clinton’s first term, and it precipitated a landslide of Democratic losses in the House and Senate in the 1994 congressional elections.

For Berry, the parallels are striking.

“I began to preach last January that we had already seen this movie and we didn’t want to see it again because we know how it comes out,” said Arkansas’ 1st District congressman, who worked in the Clinton administration before being elected to the House in 1996.

Within a week of the current health-care process beginning, Berry said, “I just began to have flashbacks to 1993 and ’94. No one that was here in ’94, or at the day after the election felt like. It certainly wasn’t a good feeling.”

With that in mind, Berry said, the results of last week “certainly bring back memories.”

Judging from what Arkansas Democratic congressmen are saying, there is no doubt about the degree to which the political landscape in the nation’s capital has been jolted.

Rep. Mike Ross says his party should be hearing alarm bells.

Rep. Vic Snyder uses meteorological imagery to describe the unsettled political climate.

Berry can’t get 1994 out of his mind, the year when Republicans gained 54 seats in the House of Representatives, sweeping to power there for the first time since 1954.

Republicans also seized the Senate, picking up eight seats.

Berry, who represents northeast Arkansas in Congress, criticizes his own party regarding current health-care legislation, calling it an “ideological effort” driven by “political ambition.”

Berry and the 4th District’s Ross credited the Blue Dog coalition of fiscally conservative Democrats, of which they are leading members, with working to tailor the House bill to take into account the concerns their constituents are raising.

Berry recounted meetings with White House officials, reminiscent of some during the Clinton days, where he and others urged them not to force Blue Dogs “off into that swamp” of supporting bills that would be unpopular with voters back home.

“I’ve been doing that with this White House, and they just don’t seem to give it any credibility at all,” Berry said. “They just kept telling us how good it was going to be. The president himself, when that was brought up in one group, said, ‘Well, the big difference here and in ’94 was you’ve got me.’ We’re going to see how much difference that makes now.”

To underscore his point, Berry quoted former Texas Rep. Charles Stenholm, a fellow conservative Democrat, who said after the 1994 Republican landslides: “the Democrats had worked like hell to get into the minority and we were not going to give it up easily.”

Ross also criticized his party leadership for “back-room deals” and “secretive meetings” during the current legislative process. As head of the Blue Dog’s health-care task force, he played a key role in shaping the House bill and expects to continue being involved in it.

Though Berry said he has been hearing warning bells since last winter, Ross said he’s been hearing them since last summer.

“The people of Massachusetts were sending the same message to Washington that I’ve been sending since July, that is that we need commonsense health-care reform that’s done in an open and transparent way,” Ross said.

All three of Arkansas’ Democratic House members said there were differing opinions within their party about how or whether to pursue healthcare legislation in the wake of last week’s Massachusetts election.

“For that state to go Republican in a U.S. Senate race should sound alarms all over Washington to wake up and understand that the people want Congress and want Washington to be focused on jobs and the economy and putting America back to work,” Ross said, summing up the view of the Arkansas House delegation.

Snyder turned to a sailing metaphor to explain the lessons that lawmakers should take from last week’s turn of events.

“When the wind blows, you don’t fight the wind,” said the 2nd District congressman. “You don’t ignore the wind. You figure out how to work with the wind.”

While Snyder said it’s time to “regroup,” he acknowledged that it’s uncertain what that will mean.

“We’ve had a very vigorous American debate about health care for a year,” he said. “It will continue longer than that because we have not come up with a solution that solves the problem but does not create anxiety.”

While it remains unclear what course the health-care legislation will take, Arkansas’ members - Democratic and Republican - agree that there could be support for some limited measures.

Rep. John Boozman, the only Republican in Arkansas’ delegation, said the approach should be incremental and focus on issues that “reform the current system rather than creating a new system.”

“If they took that kind of approach, they could get bipartisan support,” the 3rd District congressman said. “They’d have my support.”

What all the state’s congressmen said they can’t support are some of the key elements that had been included in versions of the legislation: a government-run public insurance option as well as mandates for all Americans to have insurance and for all employers to provide insurance or face penalties.

The other aspect of the health-care debate that the Arkansas members agree on is that the problem behind the overhaul effort remain: healthcare costs soaring at the same time millions of Americans have no insurance or inadequate coverage.

“It all needs to solve a problem rather than penalize somebody for what we consider to be bad behavior but they may not consider to be bad behavior,” Berry said. “I don’t think we’ve done that, and I think we missed a great opportunity to do that with very little political pain and suffering. And for whatever reason, my own party has chosen not to do that.”

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WTF is wrong with him?  

This idiot is truly the dumbest president we have ever had, bar none.  

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Even I did not think Obama was this sick in the head. 

WTF have you idiots spawned who voted for this?

I'm sure Palin would have said something like this.   

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So we have a second hand account by a disgruntled Dem on something Obama allegedly said.  Oh wow quick lets post up all the pics we have.  That's like saying well my sisters friend overheard Obama say... 
Abandon every hope...

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So we have a second hand account by a disgruntled Dem on something Obama allegedly said.  Oh wow quick lets post up all the pics we have.  That's like saying well my sisters friend overheard Obama say... 


He is saying what was told to him in the WH and all evidence so far points to its accuracy by the moves this WH makes. 

Remember "We are the Ones we have been waiting for"?

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Perhaps kc, but it was a good article and gives another democratic perspective we haven't heard.

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Perhaps kc, but it was a good article and gives another democratic perspective we haven't heard.

This guy is retiring because he sees the writing on the wall from the inside.  This guy sees what Pelosi has done along with Obama and wants no part of it. 

I have no doubt whatsoever as to this account since all actions of this WH confirm this attitude they have towards the taxpayers.

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what was clinton's gallup approval rating in spring 1994?

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what was clinton's gallup approval rating in spring 1994?

I have no freaking idea 240.  Either way, your hero is a delusional figure who makes Quixote look sober and sane. 

Seriously, how sick in ther head is this fool? 

Clinton was far smarter than Obama and much more adept at political survival. 

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Obama is a total disaster and failure in every sense of the word. He is cancerous to other democrats and non-democrats cant stand him.

However if the individual who gave that statement is who I think he is-- Marion Berry is the former Mayor of DC who I believe did jail time for drugs and was addicted to crack while he was in office.

Apparently he became a Congressman in Arkansas. -- Not exactly the most credible guy in the world.

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Obama is a total disaster and failure in every sense of the word. He is cancerous to other democrats and non-democrats cant stand him.

However if the individual who gave that statement is who I think he is-- Marion Berry is the former Mayor of DC who I believe did jail time for drugs and was addicted to crack while he was in office.

Apparently he became a Congressman in Arkansas. -- Not exactly the most credible guy in the world.

Different guy I think. 

Either way, Obama may be right, he is not Bill Clinton.  He is far worse! 


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Obama is a total disaster and failure in every sense of the word. He is cancerous to other democrats and non-democrats cant stand him.

However if the individual who gave that statement is who I think he is-- Marion Berry is the former Mayor of DC who I believe did jail time for drugs and was addicted to crack while he was in office.

Apparently he became a Congressman in Arkansas. -- Not exactly the most credible guy in the world.


Marion BARRY  former Mayor of DC


Marion BERRY, Arkansas Rep


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oops--

well in that case-- I guess the guy does have more cred.

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oops--

well in that case-- I guess the guy does have more cred.


240 - take a position - will Obama be better or worse for the Dems in 2010 than Clinton was in 1994?

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240 - take a position - will Obama be better or worse for the Dems in 2010 than Clinton was in 1994?

It will be the same.The difference is,Clinton learned,Obama will not.You dont grow up in Rev. Wrights church and change your views that America SUCKS!

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What does it matter if he is 'better' or worse than Clinton?  As long as he focuses on the economy and lets republicans take ownership of some bills, reigns in the unpopular dems (pelosi and reid) and forcefully (behind closed doors or publicly whichever works) become the face and leader of the Democratic party.  
Abandon every hope...

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240 - take a position - will Obama be better or worse for the Dems in 2010 than Clinton was in 1994?

I say worse. His own arrogance will be his downfall.

And, when November 2010 is all said and done, I wonder what the excuses are going to be from a certain poster (who swore up and down that the Dems would be running Washington for decades, with Obama easily getting a second term), if the predicted beatings come to pass.

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What does it matter if he is 'better' or worse than Clinton?  As long as he focuses on the economy and lets republicans take ownership of some bills, reigns in the unpopular dems (pelosi and reid) and forcefully (behind closed doors or publicly whichever works) become the face and leader of the Democratic party.  

He should have focused on the economy from the get-go. The only reason he's doing it now is because he got punched in the mouth (or kicked in the nuts, if you prefer Hugo's description) with ObamaCare last week.

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I say worse. His own arrogance will be his downfall.

And, when November 2010 is all said and done, I wonder what the excuses are going to be from a certain poster (who swore up and down that the Dems would be running Washington for decades, with Obama easily getting a second term), if the predicted beatings come to pass.

Obama will likely resign if he gets crushed in 2010 mid terms or not run for re-election.  The humiliation would be too much for him to take. 

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Obama will likely resign if he gets crushed in 2010 mid terms or not run for re-election.  The humiliation would be too much for him to take. 

Pipe dream there 333 you WISH he would resign or not run for re-election.  If he focuses on the economy and is perceived by the public to be 'doing something about it' he will regain popularity and the dems will play the 'the economy is still too fragile to take a regime change' card come 2012 scaring voters into re-electing him which will be an easier decision if he actually does something that has tangible benefits for the American people.  THEN he can pass health care etc.

I've said this all along.  He would have got healthcare and a public option if the economy was in good shape, he wrongly decided to forgo that issue to chase what he thought were bigger fish.  He was wrong and now he's trying to address that. 
Abandon every hope...

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Pipe dream there 333 you WISH he would resign or not run for re-election.  If he focuses on the economy and is perceived by the public to be 'doing something about it' he will regain popularity and the dems will play the 'the economy is still too fragile to take a regime change' card come 2012 scaring voters into re-electing him which will be an easier decision if he actually does something that has tangible benefits for the American people.  THEN he can pass health care etc.

I've said this all along.  He would have got healthcare and a public option if the economy was in good shape, he wrongly decided to forgo that issue to chase what he thought were bigger fish.  He was wrong and now he's trying to address that. 

He's not going to pass any healthcare bill this year. He doesn't have the supermajority in the Senate anymore and he may not even have a SIMPLE majority, this time next year.


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He's not going to pass any healthcare bill this year. He doesn't have the supermajority in the Senate anymore and he may not even have a SIMPLE majority, this time next year.



Obama does not want the the economy to improve.  He wants to implement a socialist NWO regime where we are all serfs to the NWO.

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Pipe dream there 333 you WISH he would resign or not run for re-election.  If he focuses on the economy and is perceived by the public to be 'doing something about it' he will regain popularity and the dems will play the 'the economy is still too fragile to take a regime change' card come 2012 scaring voters into re-electing him which will be an easier decision if he actually does something that has tangible benefits for the American people.  THEN he can pass health care etc.

I've said this all along.  He would have got healthcare and a public option if the economy was in good shape, he wrongly decided to forgo that issue to chase what he thought were bigger fish.  He was wrong and now he's trying to address that. 

From the onset the whole healthcare "plan" that emerged from this administration has been FUBAR, buying votes, special consideration for unions and the list goes on. Doesn't matter how good the economy might be  this abortion would be crushed.

And what tangible is he going to do, tax the shit out of banks? Print more money? Sell more debt?

Why with you is more government always the answer?
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