HOW LONG IS TOO LONG

[shrek]

ive been on and off for over a solid year but the off period has only added up to 4 months,,....... i dont take oral roids and i stopped takeing AI's unless my nips start to hurt and i will blast them with some letro................... . so heres the the deal for the last 3 months i have been takeing 100mg tren-A with 250 mg test-E EOD and i have gained what i have lost when i was in mexico which is 30 lbs but iam leaner but with only the side effect of pimples on shoulder and sleep problems........ i am not to the size i wish to to be and i need to either order more tren and test or come off what do yall think

[Cal_Lifter]

What up, Shrek - I respect you a lot as a poster because you have been on the board for awhile and write good info, however, I feel like you could have found out this answer yourself by reading some books and reading how long cycles should be run for, and what the proper off time should be. 

Although, I personally like to see people give out their own personal experience on certain topics, even if the answer could be found reading a book. Anecdotal information, although not scientific facts, still serve a good purpose.

I look forward to reading anyone(s) comments. Much love, though. 

[Dr Loomis]

To get bigger you have to take more gear and eat more food. Time off is a personal thing and have to relate it to your goals and if you have any issues with blood work or sides. If no issues and want to get bigger than its an easy choice. If theres some issue, then have to put it in priority.

[shrek]

What up, Shrek - I respect you a lot as a poster because you have been on the board for awhile and write good info, however, I feel like you could have found out this answer yourself by reading some books and reading how long cycles should be run for, and what the proper off time should be. 

Although, I personally like to see people give out their own personal experience on certain topics, even if the answer could be found reading a book. Anecdotal information, although not scientific facts, still serve a good purpose.

I look forward to reading anyone(s) comments. Much love, though. 

true but i havent really done a so called cycle i just take it then try something else and stop when i feel like it and go back on when i feel like it the books give you safe bet cycle and doses

[tstmaniac]

Shrek do you run hcg throughout the cycle?

[jtsunami]

haven't come off in years, your choice, if you want to get big you stay on all the time.

[shrek]

Shrek do you run hcg throughout the cycle?

yeah

[G]

dont come off for more than 2 weeks, cause then you'll be goin backwards. Or dont come off at all. Use higher doses of inject. add slin and gh

[jtsunami]

dont come off for more than 2 weeks, cause then you'll be goin backwards. Or dont come off at all. Use higher doses of inject. add slin and gh

agreed, if you can afford the gh, i wouldn't do the slin though tbo

[shrek]

agreed, if you can afford the gh, i wouldn't do the slin though tbo

i cant really afford quality GH and iam not ready for slin yet because from my last blood work my TRI's are twice what they should be at 27................ i can afford all the sust , test, tren and T3......... not interested in winny it is way too pricey for a solid amount MG per week

[tstmaniac]

Shit I had good results with 50mgs eod with winny...I'm currently using alpha pharm winny nd I love it

[jtsunami]

i cant really afford quality GH and iam not ready for slin yet because from my last blood work my TRI's are twice what they should be at 27................ i can afford all the sust , test, tren and T3......... not interested in winny it is way too pricey for a solid amount MG per week

just stay with test base or in your case sust base with some other's mixed in and stay on sounds like what you are thinking of.

[tstmaniac]

I'm thinking of staying on for a long time myself...I just want to be able to have kids in the future

[local hero]

i realy think your weak link is food, in all honesty i think the majority of people i talk to just dont eat enough, and thats lots of good stuff and not just shite... fuck insulin, just eat lots of good cals, plenty carbs etc etc

[wicknilly]

haven't come off in years, your choice, if you want to get big you stay on all the time.

you ever worry about frying your receptors?  or do you think that's a myth?

[local hero]

biggest myth in bodybuilding.... no such thing as receptor downgading

[jtsunami]

you ever worry about frying your receptors?  or do you think that's a myth?

don't really think too much about it

[Overload]

Just remember you have to pay the piper one day, be careful with your health. As long as you are getting blood work done on a regular basis you should be ok, but there are no absolutes in this game.

[jtsunami]

Just remember you have to pay the piper one day, be careful with your health. As long as you are getting blood work done on a regular basis you should be ok, but there are no absolutes in this game.

we all die, just depends on genetics really how well your body will age, some smokers live forever and some people who choose healthy living are six feet under 20 years earlier who the fuck knows.

[SacGymRat]

haven't come off in years, your choice, if you want to get big you stay on all the time.

This has been an interesting post.  I have always used PCT but am now thinking that may not be as necessary in my case.  I'm in my 50's, have grown kids and live alone.  Now concentrating on bodybuilding and don't really give a shit about anything else other than looking like Markus Ruhl. 

Comments?

[jtsunami]

This has been an interesting post.  I have always used PCT but am now thinking that may not be as necessary in my case.  I'm in my 50's, have grown kids and live alone.  Now concentrating on bodybuilding and don't really give a shit about anything else other than looking like Markus Ruhl. 

Comments?

personally I would say go for it.  Or at very least get on HRT.  Just realize, after a few years, pining yourself 3 times a week if you going to do some what of a medium range dose does get a little tiring.

[4thAD]

I agree with JT, instead of PCT just go on TRT in between cycles.

[spirospros]

on all year with inj away from orals...no problem at all..