Arnold Classic - Roelly Winklaar 4 Weeks Out

[DroppingPlates]

i think the tattoo looks cool!

People could be "cool", tats or other signs never.

[Emmortal]

He just needs to come in shredded to make an impression.  Anything less and he'll get lost in the line up.

[TrainingOn]

He made big improvements in those couple of months! I'm looking forward to seeing him on stage next to the top level guys. Great work granny! Too bad you don't answer the serious questions we ask you 

[sibil]

 Too bad you don't answer the serious questions we ask you 



Where???

[DroppingPlates]

Too bad you don't answer the serious questions we ask you 



Where???

They don't understand that pics could speak for themselves 
Hows Roellie doing these days?

[Hurricane Beef !]

oke i will work on all these points

LFZ . . . Lat Free Zone.

To even suggest this guy as a pro level back is foolish. And his calves are sub-par.

THE BEEF

[mantronik]

How much lower do you want his back in that LFZ and is it genetically feasable to lower that insertion point?
Calves subpar? Ronnie Coleman won 8 Sandows with worse calves then Roelly and Dex won 2 Sandows.  JOJ won some pro shows and so did Melvin Anthony and Dennis Wolf.
Roelly's calves are better then all these guys' calves.
Did Branch place 2nd at the O because of his calves or because of his back?

So: do calves really matter in your criticism/opinion?
It would make him more complete yes ofcourse, but then I would complain more about his chest thickness or posing skills/presentation then a LFZ or subpar calves...

[TrainingOn]

Too bad you don't answer the serious questions we ask you 



Where???

@ SIBIL: What exercises did you let him do for his upper chest sibil? And how many times a week did he train upper chest/ or chest in general?

This one sibil.

[TrainingOn]

Why all the negativity! You can't go around the fact that this guy is talented. If you only look at the improvements he made in this past year alone! Off course it's not all him but also his coach and trainer sibil how obviously know how to stimulate his body the right way.

[DroppingPlates]

How much lower do you want his back in that LFZ and is it genetically feasable to lower that insertion point?

Exactly, it's barely possible to improve this area relatively from the whole back development. Compared to Dennis James & Dexter Jackson he has good overall back thickness. I also notice improvements in the width of his back since his AC amateurs win.

Comparison material:
Dennis


Dexter

[Hurricane Beef !]

Who the fuck is this?

THE BEEF

[DroppingPlates]

Who the fuck is this?

THE BEEF

Dennis @ the 09 'O

[Gregzs]

How much lower do you want his back in that LFZ and is it genetically feasable to lower that insertion point?
Calves subpar? Ronnie Coleman won 8 Sandows with worse calves then Roelly and Dex won 2 Sandows.  JOJ won some pro shows and so did Melvin Anthony and Dennis Wolf.
Roelly's calves are better then all these guys' calves.
Did Branch place 2nd at the O because of his calves or because of his back?

So: do calves really matter in your criticism/opinion?
It would make him more complete yes ofcourse, but then I would complain more about his chest thickness or posing skills/presentation then a LFZ or subpar calves...

Please recheck your facts.

[sibil]

2 times a week diffrents exercise

1
bench press
dead press(bench press by the throat elbows slightly turned inwards)
incline press with dumbells
flyes flat (head of the bench back over hanging)
small press



2
incline machine (hammerstrenght)wide -hands horizontally /small-hands vertically
dead press
flyes low hand (look to the video)or cable cross
small bench press
dips

i hoop it is a little bit  to read

[#1 Klaus fan]

Dennis @ the 09 'O

Sheesh, did James even diet for the competition...

[hazbin]

Sheesh, did James even diet for the competition...

you shoulda seen him in the parking lot before the show.

[mantronik]

Haha oma, je engels gaat wel vooruit zo!
When you mention small press I assume you mean NG (narrow grip) press.
What area are you targeting with this grip?
(Waarom doet Roelly smallpress, voor welk gebied van zijn borst?)

[mantronik]

Please recheck your facts.

So Dex won 1 instead of 2 Sandows. I dearly apologise for this huge error.
Did that throw you off from the geste of my post that bad? 

[DroppingPlates]

Sheesh, did James even diet for the competition...

Looks like Dave "the turd" Palumbo was his prep "guru"

[TrainingOn]

2 times a week diffrents exercise

1
bench press
dead press(bench press by the throat elbows slightly turned inwards)
incline press with dumbells
flyes flat (head of the bench back over hanging)
small press



2
incline machine (hammerstrenght)wide -hands horizontally /small-hands vertically
dead press
flyes low hand (look to the video)or cable cross
small bench press
dips

i hoop it is a little bit  to read

Thanks for your answer sibil! I understand it perfectly, i know a little Dutch too. I'll try to implement these exercises to the best of my ability, and hope that my chest also comes up like Roelly's did.

How is the big guy doing these last days?

[Immortal_Technique]

Please recheck your facts.

His facts were sound. Apart from the Dex 2 Olympias thing. Doe sthat change the point? Does Dex not have a pro level back cos he only won the O once?! Are calves now a deciding factor because Dex only won the o once?

[sibil]

Haha oma, je engels gaat wel vooruit zo!
When you mention small press I assume you mean NG (narrow grip) press.
What area are you targeting with this grip?
(Waarom doet Roelly smallpress, voor welk gebied van zijn borst?)

never to old to learn but is difficult
inner chest

[DroppingPlates]

2 times a week diffrents exercise

1
bench press
dead press(bench press by the throat elbows slightly turned inwards)
incline press with dumbells
flyes flat (head of the bench back over hanging)
small press



2
incline machine (hammerstrenght)wide -hands horizontally /small-hands vertically
dead press
flyes low hand (look to the video)or cable cross
small bench press
dips

i hoop it is a little bit  to read

Interesting choose of exercises and good variation I see. Does Roellie also trains this way during his offseason?

A suggestion. Lying cable presses with a double small cable pulley burns my inner chest to the max.

[mantronik]

I was waiting for you to say that word "inner" chest....

Droppingplates and Sibil: the whole dutch community should be attacking you for mentioning the word "inner chest"
Milos, Charles Glass and Chris Thib got ridiculed for years for saying "inner chest", but the dutch internet guys know that that doesn't exist in science.

Some words of advise for Sibil, Milos, Charles and Christian, now that supertrainer oma is also using "inner" chest exercises, people?

[mantronik]

A suggestion. Lying cable presses with a double small cable pulley burns my inner chest to the max.

Ever tried Thibs cable/dbell presses? Exercise C of all 3 schedules (especially C from the first schedule):
http://www.tmuscle.com/free_online_article/sports_body_training_performance/hss100_chest_specialization

Oma, ideetje voor Roelly?