What % of population could become an IFBB Pro?

[dov]

I'm a firm believer that genetics play a tremendous role in BB...drugs are just the finishing touches in most cases. Bone structure, proportions, insertions, muscle bellies, etc. are not helped by drugs. Therefore, I truely believe that out of 10k gym rats perhaps only 1 or 2 would have what it takes to be an elite IFBB pro....take into account the commitment, discipline, etc that must exist with training, eating, sleeping, etc.....


I def. don't qualify due to my poor proportions, wide waste, narrow shldrs, long torso, etc...I could jump on a ton of drugs and come nowhere near the caliber of any pro.... I frequently see a couple of IFBB Pro's and it's always a cold reminder that no matter what, I can never look like them.


Discuss

[pugalist666]

i think the better question is who the fuck would want to

[kiwiol]

Probably less than 1%

You need to respond well to drugs, have a reasonable structure and be fairly disciplined and committed.

A lot of people can bodybuild and compete in the local level, but becoming a pro isn't easy.

[pugalist666]

Probably less than 1%

You need to respond well to drugs, have a reasonable structure and be fairly disciplined and committed.

A lot of people can bodybuild and compete in the local level, but becoming a pro isn't easy.

bull shit , if every one was as stupid as dorian,ronny,nasser you would see alot more guys 300 pounds with abs  pumping them selves full of tons of insulin and gh , but most people are not retards

[dov]

i think the better question is who the fuck would want to

I ran into a guy that earned his Pro card last year and is currently 222 lbs at 5'8" and he looks incredible...of course, well proportioned, tiny joints, etc...I would love to look like this guy and I think most would....Now, in a few years if he's weighing 260 then that would not appeal to me..LOL

[James Blunt]

bull shit , if every one was as stupid as dorian,ronny,nasser you would see alot more guys 300 pounds with abs  pumping them selves full of tons of insulin and gh , but most people are not retards

You have officially made yourself look like a retarded asshole.

[dov]

bull shit , if every one was as stupid as dorian,ronny,nasser you would see alot more guys 300 pounds with abs  pumping them selves full of tons of insulin and gh , but most people are not retards

That's my point....You or I could pump ourselves full of gear and weigh a ton with abs, but would look like a blob of shite standing next to Ronnie

[kiwiol]

bull shit , if every one was as stupid as dorian,ronny,nasser you would see alot more guys 300 pounds with abs  pumping them selves full of tons of insulin and gh , but most people are not retards

There are tons of people who juice on a level equivalent to the IFBB pros. Check out the number of bodybuilders in the local contests - anyone who is a middleweight and more juices heavily, esp. the bigger guys. How many of them win a pro card and become successful pros? Only a fraction.

Go to any gym, even one like Golds gym (or whichever one is the current "Mecca") and you'll find at least 100 or so "normal" people for every pro caliber physique. That will go down even more if you visit the average gym.

Not saying a lot of people out there can't pile on muscle under a heavy cycle and decent training, mind you. Just that that alone won't let them get a pro card.

[Meso_z]

i agree with kiwiol.

[dov]

There are tons of people who juice on a level equivalent to the IFBB pros. Check out the number of bodybuilders in the local contests - anyone who is a middleweight and more juices heavily, esp. the bigger guys. How many of them win a pro card and become successful pros? Only a fraction.

Go to any gym, even one like Golds gym (or whichever one is the current "mecca") and you'll find at least 100 or so "normal" people for every pro caliber physique. That will go down even more if you visit the average gym.

Not saying a lot of people out there can't pile on muscle under a heavy cycle and decent training, mind you. Just that that alone won't let them get a pro card.

QFT

[pugalist666]

You have officially made yourself look like a retarded asshole.

i did that along time ago

[pugalist666]

That's my point....You or I could pump ourselves full of gear and weigh a ton with abs, but would look like a blob of shite standing next to Ronnie

if joe average did as much drugs with the same quality you wind up with guys like kamali and titus you ad in good genetics you get ronnie and dorian

[dov]

if joe average did as much drugs with the same quality you wind up with guys like kamali and titus you ad in good genetics you get ronnie and dorian

Good point...there are def pro's who are teh upper echelon compared to the field.....but, what % of avg gymrats could become an IFBB Pro?

[pugalist666]

Good point...there are def pro's who are teh upper echelon compared to the field.....but, what % of avg gymrats could become an IFBB Pro?

alot more than you think , who really wants to suck cock for 20,000 dollars worth of hgh every year ? :chick

[Captain Equipoise]

Bahh, that's a load of bullshit..elite genetics, etc.  LOL..

if Kamali can turn pro, ANYONE can.

[James Blunt]

Good point...there are def pro's who are teh upper echelon compared to the field.....but, what % of avg gymrats could become an IFBB Pro?

I actually think a good percentage could if they really wanted to. With that I mean learning about the things it takes to be a pro and actually applying them to their lifestyle. Past that it's just being disciplined enough to really stick to it and want it bad enough to get it. Watching the scene enough you really see people with less than decent genetics become pros because they really want it. Not just think that they want it.

[tbombz]

id say probably 1 or 2 % COULD NOT become ifbb pro's. for 98-99%, it is not a question of possibility, but a question of will.

[bigbobs]

There are tons of people who juice on a level equivalent to the IFBB pros. Check out the number of bodybuilders in the local contests - anyone who is a middleweight and more juices heavily, esp. the bigger guys. How many of them win a pro card and become successful pros? Only a fraction.

Go to any gym, even one like Golds gym (or whichever one is the current "Mecca") and you'll find at least 100 or so "normal" people for every pro caliber physique. That will go down even more if you visit the average gym.

Not saying a lot of people out there can't pile on muscle under a heavy cycle and decent training, mind you. Just that that alone won't let them get a pro card.

hmmm..but according to Groink no one can say that he would not have gotten better than runner up at the Mr. Olympia if he decided to do drugs at an earlier age 

[pugalist666]

id say probably 1 or 2 % COULD NOT become ifbb pro's. for 98-99%, it is not a question of possibility, but a question of will.

1or 2 % =  severdmantestes and nzcockmonster . there bodies seem to be immune to the effects of performance enhancing drugs

[pugalist666]

hmmm..but according to Groink no one can say that he would not have gotten better than runner up at the Mr. Olympia if he decided to do drugs at an earlier age 

only natural i have ever seen with gh insulin gut and gyno

[Mr Nobody]

hmmm..but according to Groink no one can say that he would not have gotten better than runner up at the Mr. Olympia if he decided to do drugs at an earlier age 

Groink would win the O with the right drugs.

[pugalist666]

Groink would win the O with the right drugs.

all blue undies

[Captain Equipoise]

1or 2 % =  severdmantestes and nzcockmonster . there bodies seem to be immune to the effects of performance enhancing drugs

sev looking swole in that last pic!!

[James Blunt]

1or 2 % =  severdmantestes and nzcockmonster . there bodies seem to be immune to the effects of performance enhancing drugs

Looks like that guy is trashed.. That's not the way to bodybuild. Why juice when you do shit like that?

[kiwiol]

I actually think a good percentage could if they really wanted to. With that I mean learning about the things it takes to be a pro and actually applying them to their lifestyle.

It might seem like an easy thing to do, especially when you're just talking about it, but it's very hard to become pro. Look at guys like Edgar Fletcher and Matt Mendenhall - they have elite genetics, crazy structure and respond well to drugs, but couldn't hack it into the pro ranks despite trying several times.

And they're just a drop in the ocean filled with amateurs, most of whom have far less impressive genetics than those two. Not to mention it takes years and years of effort to get there, which most people won't commit to.

Anyone who thinks guys like Kamali and Titus are "average" don't know that they're talking about. Only reason a lot of pros deflate dramatically and look like crap after they stop competing is because they are lazy and their heart isn't into lifting hard. If guys like Tom Prince and Kamali lifted hard without juice, they'd still be more muscular and bigger than the average guy you see in the gym. Average guy in the gym = 5'9" 170 lb at 20% body fat.