What % of population could become an IFBB Pro?

[io856]

Oh great! Just what most delusional gymrat bodybuilders need to hear! These types of comments only fuel their delusional fires! "Groink" has always been a level headed guy on here, but I think your comment is unrealistic.

of course grionk "could" have turned pro

but for whatever reason he didn't fulfill that potential so its irrelevant

[Meso_z]

People give pros too much credit............Id say a LARGE percentage of the population could become pros......its just a matter of how far someone wants to take their "weightlifting hobby"........it takes a lot of time, money, and effort to become a pro bodybuilder............b ut for what??

Believe me when i say this, the best bodybuilder on the planet right now isnt a pro, its someone somewhere with crazy genetics and an unbelievable response to drugs, who probably doesnt even lift weights and is ripped and muscular.....But we'll never know because this person has yet to step foot in a gym and probably never will........

All we see are the guys who took their hobby to the next level, thats all.

no one has time for your "bigfoot" stories now. 

[RAZA-BLADE]

id say probably 1 or 2 % COULD NOT become ifbb pro's. for 98-99%, it is not a question of possibility, but a question of will.

Exactly, what percentage of the population has even trained to tap into their potential, let alone take things to the extreme by taking copious amounts of drugs and eating 10 meals a day.

Impossible to put a number on that.

[Palpatine Q]

Ahhhhh....here we go.

We could easily sustitute Kiwiol, Meso,MOS, Danhead,A23,and plenty more that slip my mind right now. whos to say what any of us would look like good or bad, if we took pro-level cycles and completely immersed ourselves in the bbing lifestyle at a young age. Haters are going to hate...that's a given.

But if you look at pics of guys like Nasser and Titus before they got into bbing they look like anybody else. The whole premise that they are the genetic elite is baseless, being that 99.9% of the population has no desire to be a pro bber

[bigbobs]

Ahhhhh....here we go.

We could easily sustitute Kiwiol, Meso,MOS, Danhead,A23,and plenty more that slip my mind right now. whos to say what any of us would look like good or bad, if we took pro-level cycles and completely immersed ourselves in the bbing lifestyle at a young age. Haters are going to hate...that's a given.

But if you look at pics of guys like Nasser and Titus before they got into bbing they look like anybody else. The whole premise that they are the genetic elite is baseless, being that 99.9% of the population has no desire to be a pro bber

lol so of the thousands of guys who compete (amateur as well as pro) and take as many drugs as possible with dedicated training and dieting only about 5 had comparable size to what Nasser achieved (well under 1% of competitive bodybuilders), yet you're saying that lots of people could achieve that look if they wanted to? 

[dov]

So, by many of everyones assertions, MOST guys on GB who have seriously chased the BB dream shouldve made it. YET, most have brutally failed in epic proportions. Seriously, this is a BB forum where guys have really tried to make it and were humbled by their meager genetics. Ur argument is proven wrong right here in front of our eyes. Right?

[Chick]

People give pros too much credit............Id say a LARGE percentage of the population could become pros......its just a matter of how far someone wants to take their "weightlifting hobby"........it takes a lot of time, money, and effort to become a pro bodybuilder............b ut for what??

Believe me when i say this, the best bodybuilder on the planet right now isnt a pro, its someone somewhere with crazy genetics and an unbelievable response to drugs, who probably doesnt even lift weights and is ripped and muscular.....But we'll never know because this person has yet to step foot in a gym and probably never will........

All we see are the guys who took their hobby to the next level, thats all.

LOL...

[flexingtonsteele]

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its so true that it hurts bob, doesnt it 

[Palpatine Q]

To sum it up, how can you unequivocally say everyone couldn't do it...if everyone doesn't even try to do it.

Keep your shirt on about Nasser Bobs, we all are well aware of how much you love him. I was just using him as an example.

[liquid_c]

Anyone who thinks that 90% of the general public could become a pro if the just took enough drugs and just trained hard enough and lived the lifestyle is either just playing around or delusional to the point of needing serious help.  Gyms all over america are loaded with people who take tons of steroids and try to live the lifestyle and look nothing like a bodybuilder much less a pro. 

On a positive note, I know most of the people saying it are doing it just to get a reaction.  Even on getbig most people aren't that delusional. 

[RAZA-BLADE]

To sum it up, how can you unequivocally say everyone couldn't do it...if everyone doesn't even try to do it.

Keep your shirt on about Nasser Bobs, we all are well aware of how much you love him. I was just using him as an example.

Exactly.  A reletively skinny basketball player is now a top level pro.  What if all college and pro athetes basketball, football, track, decided to dedicate their lives to bodybuilding?  What percentage of them could turn pro and be as big and ripped as the "athletes" on stage now?  I would bet a fairly high percentage would look as good or better, but they have chosen a diferent route.  One that doesn't include G4P, drugs, and walking around in thongs.

[pugalist666]

HaHaha   now I have a GH gut to go along with my imaginary Gyno that I hide by putting my hand on my hip. I own your minds.  I easily could have been a pro, along with quite a few other posters here.

These guys are not the "genetic elite"....they are walking pharmacies. Sorry Bobs, but that includes your hero too. As far as all that bullshit about tiny joints, round muscle bellies blah blah blah......tell that to Jay Cutler.

You DO need good genetics to be a pro. but PLENTY of people have good genetics. they just have no interest in taking enough drugs to kill a horse.

You guys need to stop drinking the Kool Aid

prove you where born with the "outy"  groink , post a pic from elementery school

[Palpatine Q]

Exactly.....if BBing was as popular as baseball or football there would be a thousand Nassers and Ronnies.

[che]

Elite genetics 
 

IFBB pros

[Palpatine Q]

I have a herniated navel you fucking idiot...I got it deadlifting years ago...at least know what the fuck you are talking about moron

[funk51]

I'm a firm believer that genetics play a tremendous role in BB...drugs are just the finishing touches in most cases. Bone structure, proportions, insertions, muscle bellies, etc. are not helped by drugs. Therefore, I truely believe that out of 10k gym rats perhaps only 1 or 2 would have what it takes to be an elite IFBB pro....take into account the commitment, discipline, etc that must exist with training, eating, sleeping, etc.....


I def. don't qualify due to my poor proportions, wide waste, narrow shldrs, long torso, etc...I could jump on a ton of drugs and come nowhere near the caliber of any pro.... I frequently see a couple of IFBB Pro's and it's always a cold reminder that no matter what, I can never look like them.


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             your right one just has to look to the physiques of  wrestlings roddy piper to see what steroids can't do. that is turn a sow's ear into a silk purse.

[bigbobs]

To sum it up, how can you unequivocally say everyone couldn't do it...if everyone doesn't even try to do it.

Keep your shirt on about Nasser Bobs, we all are well aware of how much you love him. I was just using him as an example.

I gave a statistical example, funny that you simply ignored it.  

Yes there are many, many people with potential-pro genetics who do not even work-out - same thing goes for other sports.  That's just a result of having a world with billions of people living in it.

However, looking at percentages, when you consider the total # of people who do take as many drugs as possible and make bodybuilding their life (practically ever state and national level competitor as well as every IFBB pro) and then count the # out of those that become even top 10 or 15 at the Olympia, you will have less than 1%.  Therefore, less than 1% of people do have the genetics to be a top pro bodybuilder.  

[che]

I gave a statistical example, funny that you simply ignored it.  

Yes there are many, many people with potential-pro genetics who do not even work-out - same thing goes for other sports.  That's just a result of having a world with billions of people living in it.

However, looking at percentages, when you consider the total # of people who do take as many drugs as possible and make bodybuilding their life (practically ever state and national level competitor as well as every IFBB pro) and then count the # out of those that become even top 10 or 15 at the Olympia, you will have less than 1%.  Therefore, less than 1% of people do have the genetics to be a top pro bodybuilder.  

Your math is wrong but I don't feel like arguing .

[hipolito mejia]

There are tons of people who juice on a level equivalent to the IFBB pros. Check out the number of bodybuilders in the local contests - anyone who is a middleweight and more juices heavily, esp. the bigger guys. How many of them win a pro card and become successful pros? Only a fraction.

Go to any gym, even one like Golds gym (or whichever one is the current "Mecca") and you'll find at least 100 or so "normal" people for every pro caliber physique. That will go down even more if you visit the average gym.

Not saying a lot of people out there can't pile on muscle under a heavy cycle and decent training, mind you. Just that that alone won't let them get a pro card.

The real question should be how many of those bodybuilders you see at local contest can actually get away with not having to work a  9 to 5 job (only a fraction).

It goes to show you that if you have acces to drugs, gym and not having to work (a real job anyways) Ill say 85 % of population would become pro.

[bigbobs]

The real question should be how many of those bodybuilders you see at local contest can actually get away with not having to work a  9 to 5 job (only a fraction).

It goes to show you that if you have acces to drugs, gym and not having to work (a real job anyways) Ill say 85 % of population would become pro.

do you find that the winners of state NPC shows that proceed to the nationals are the ones who don't have jobs?  Generally the only bodybuilders who dont need jobs are the ones who succeeded while having to work, and once they achieve a physique that allows them to earn money from it they can then focus on bb full-time, but only after beating hundreds of others along the way, almost all of whom also had full-time jobs.

For example when becoming a pro Nasser was in university full-time and worked and paid for his tuition and contest prep all by himself.

Would be funny to see if you guys would tell someone like hazbin or evilangel, great bodybuilders who didn't quite make pro, that large percentages of the population can become a pro if they simply took the drugs needed lol

[bigbobs]

Your math is wrong but I don't feel like arguing .

Typical false and weak reply by someone who knows he is wrong

[El Diablo Blanco]

I gave a statistical example, funny that you simply ignored it.  

Yes there are many, many people with potential-pro genetics who do not even work-out - same thing goes for other sports.  That's just a result of having a world with billions of people living in it.

However, looking at percentages, when you consider the total # of people who do take as many drugs as possible and make bodybuilding their life (practically ever state and national level competitor as well as every IFBB pro) and then count the # out of those that become even top 10 or 15 at the Olympia, you will have less than 1%.  Therefore, less than 1% of people do have the genetics to be a top pro bodybuilder.  

Groink, Bobs is the prime example of someone pumping themselves up with steroids to only look average with chicken legs.  How much more drugs can Bob take before he even gets to the level of a pro?  Probably enough to kill a small animal and he still would look average.

[stuntmovie]

Haven't read all this yet but it might br more feasible and interesting to calculate the percentage of GetBig members who have the POTENBTIAL to turn Pro within the IFBB.  

Once that calculation is made it could possibly be pretty accurate as to the percentage of the US population who have the potential to turn Pro.

The following figures are by no means accurate, but are merely based on my observations after more than a couple of years communicating on this GetBig Board.

I've seen about 10 GetBig members who have the potential to be a great Pro bodybuilder

I think that there are close to 50,000 GetBig members,  (Might be way off base here.)

You do the math!

I'll start a post about those GetBig members who have the POTENTIAL to turn pro with the hope that other GetBiggers will add to it.

I could be wrong with some of my picks, but at least it's an attempt to give credit where credit is due. They certainly deserve that much.

[dustin]

You need to have an extremely favorable response, as well as tolerance to AAS and other performance enhancing drugs. If you also happen to have small joints and a propensity to put on lots of muscle and hold little bodyfat then that's awesome. Top tier pros have great structures and also respond beautifully to drugs. That's why they're stomping around on the Olympia stage where moon faced, zit factory gym rats are getting gyno and brutal lipid profiles from a gram of test and some other drugs.

I know people stepping up their games to the multiple-grams-a-week range of steroids and they look like shit. Not to mention, their health is deteriorating at a fast rate. Conversely, I know a couple of competitors and someone who held an IFBB pro card for years who is in great health and uses over a gram a week. These people who can tolerate AAS and PEDs at big doses are the ones that make it far. Some peoples' bodies just meltdown when they take too much shit. Others tolerate high doses of test, tren and other potent androgens at high doses right out of the gate. And these types of people generally excel. It's hit and miss... you can have a great natural physique but tolerate AAS and PEDs so poorly you're better off with protein shakes and nothing else.

[Palpatine Q]

Well thats because his genetics suck ass....not everyone has shit Paki genetics