Mac Vs. PC

[Doug_Steele]

you sound like a girl...

Nah, you are confused but he problary gets women unlike you.   

[drkaje]

you sound like a girl...

I look at a lot of porn and literally had 5 virus/malware programs running on the HP. Add up the updates, crashes and/or free trials of programs to get shit off the computer and it just became a huge pain in the ass.

For my needs, Macs are way better than PCs. I just have far more important shit to worry about.

[saopl]

One of the little perks of having a Mac is if you REALLY need to run Windows only based applications, you can install Windows and either alt-tab (so to speak) between the 2 OS, or during your initial boot up you can choose whether you would like to run Windows or OSX, you're choice.

I have found that Windows does run very well on my Mac, even faster than it would on my PC.

Mac all the way brobama.

[drkaje]

One of the little perks of having a Mac is if you REALLY need to run Windows only based applications, you can install Windows and either alt-tab (so to speak) between the 2 OS, or during your initial boot up you can choose whether you would like to run Windows or OSX, you're choice.

I have found that Windows does run very well on my Mac, even faster than it would on my PC.

Mac all the way brobama.

I was advised that whatever section of your hard drive dedicated to windows is susceptible to viruses.

[mossel]

I look at a lot of porn and literally had 5 virus/malware programs running on the HP. Add up the updates, crashes and/or free trials of programs to get shit off the computer and it just became a huge pain in the ass.

For my needs, Macs are way better than PCs. I just have far more important shit to worry about.

aaaah...

ok!

so mac is better for porn?! ... gotta get me one...

[saopl]

I was advised that whatever section of your hard drive dedicated to windows is susceptible to viruses.

that is true, but you can partition the dedicated space to an external HD, and if you DO end up getting a virus just delete the partition, this will NOT affect or transfer over to the OSX.

[Krankenstein]

I look at a lot of porn and literally had 5 virus/malware programs running on the HP. Add up the updates, crashes and/or free trials of programs to get shit off the computer and it just became a huge pain in the ass.

For my needs, Macs are way better than PCs. I just have far more important shit to worry about.

I probably do more porn surfing than you.....probably more torrents than you....I have had TWO virus problems in the last 5 years.  I dont use that McAffe or Symantic bs.....system hogs.  I run AVG, Malwarebytes, and CCleaner.  Thats it.  I let my system get scanned every night.  One thing to NEVER do is install any damn software (trial or free) that wants install a 'toolbar' onto my system.  In addition, how mahy people actually read or even glance at the "install agreement" of the software they are installing??  You would be surprised at the amount of "extra" stuff that installed on some things.

Another thing for me is this.....I have 1 TB drive.....only 50 GB is set up for windows.  So, all my other stuff is safe (movies, pics, books, etc) if I would ever get a virus.  If I need to reinstall windows, I simply wipe my 50GB portion clean, reinstall windows...go to my "Storage" drive...reinstall drivers and any miscellaneous software and I am good.  In fact, once a year I do a clean install.  Takes me a couple of hours, but I also dont have a problem with my system. 

Some of the proprietary systems (HP, Dell, eMachine) have so much extra bullshit on their machines...its no wonder they run slow.  I would never buy a complete system like that.  Much better to be able to fix a computer on your own than have to go through "tech service"

[mossel]

i get my porn from FTD... no virus nags...

[Mars]

[saopl]

i get my porn from FTD... no virus nags...

I have 5 Bangbros passes 

[Krankenstein]

i get my porn from FTD... no virus nags...

FTD?

[Captain Equipoise]

no, music recording is still mostly done on macs. And almost ALL DJ's use macs.  With a Mac, there are few variations of hardware out there. With a PC the hardware configurations are endless. Therefore, music software on a mac is less buggy most of the time. MAlware can ruin a live performance as well.The only difference is some software only run on macs, some only on PC.

That being said I have used all 3 OS's to record. Linux is the worst, Jack sucks. I put OSX above the pc, but the are some great free plug-ins only out on PC.

Can't go wrong with a PC or Mac for audio. if you're performing live, get the mac.
http://www.tweakheadz.com/Mac_vs_Pc_DAWS.htm

Cubase is native to PC, most if not all systems running Pro Tools are PC...

There's actually been a huge switch from MAC > PC for pro recording in the last 5-7 years, all that's really left on mac is the old cakewalk and Logic is such a f*cked up program that the learning curve is 2 years so most engineers and producers are abandoning it.

I use Cubase and Pro Tools myself, happily on 2 PC machines.

[noworries]

I have 5 Bangbros passes 

Share the wealth

[The Showstoppa]

Pffffft, i still roll with a commodore 64 bitches!

[Buffgeek]

Apple has less than 10% of the market share. Hackers and malware authors are going to be going after windows becasuse it is by far the most widely used platform.

I love my ipod, but in my experience MACs are great for people who have a lot of coin to spend and know very little about computers, yet want them to perform specific tasks. They do what they do well and because of their market share dont have the big bullseye on them that MS has.

If you are good sized to enterprise businesss entity, gamer, on a budget, or actually know a bit about computers, then you are most likely to want a PC.

I have no delusions that without Apple we would probably all still be staring at big ass beige boxes. They spur innovation, but I will stick with my PC.

[lvtolft]

The time and energy that I have saved not having to even worry about any type of virus software or the dreaded "defragging" shit that is done on a pc has alone been well worth the additional investment I made in the mac. 

In the end, if you want a good machine that is simple to use and easy to maintain, pick a mac all the way.

[MindSpin]

Good God...I forgot all about the dreaded "defragging"....lol.  What about the "fatal errors", having to download all sorts of virus protection software and having to ctrl+alt+delete every time a PC freezes.

Mac all the way... 

[TrueGrit]

Talking of viruses, my netbook got a really shitty one called "XPantiviruspro". Was a complete bastard...and I had Norton AV and firewall running as well.

Had to reinstall windows but it wasn't too much hassle as I keep all the other stuff on the other drive.

[YngiweRhoads]

Talking of viruses, my netbook got a really shitty one called "XPantiviruspro". Was a complete bastard...and I had Norton AV and firewall running as well.

Had to reinstall windows but it wasn't too much hassle as I keep all the other stuff on the other drive.

Norton sucks.

AVG and Avast work better and they're free.

If this article wasn't true, it'd be funny. Instead, it's just sad.  

   

The 10 reasons that Apple must think is imperative for making the change from a PC to a MAC can be found on their website. Of course if you have the time to read through all of them you realise that these 10 features or reasons have been standard with the PC a long, long, long time. Some of the reasons are just plain myths that Apple invented. Probably because they ran out of fabricated facts.

So take the journey through the 10 commandments of a mac-enthusiast and enjoy their naive attitude towards personal computing.

1. The Mac... It just works

This is maybe the ultimate reason a mac owner will give you to explain why it's superior to a PC. The mac owner will tell you that all people that own macs are really satisfied with their computers and would never switch back. This is ofcourse not true.
The mac owner will also tell you that with a system from Apple you will never have to think about drivers, upgrades or anything. A mac is perfection itself when delivered. Atleast according to their standard. Many macs can't even be upgraded. So what you buy is what you get. Expect your system to be outdated within 1-2 years.
Apple also states: "Only with a Mac do you get an operating system built by the same people who built the computer it runs on.". Actually Apple's Mac OS X (the operating system) is not based on their own technology, but by the technology of freeBSD. Apple's own capabilities in form of creating an operating system have been demonstrated in previous versions of Mac OS. It took an operating system based on someone else's technology to get a Mac multitasking and not behaving like an oversized pocket calculator from 1985.

2. It doesn't crash

Yes it does! And it does it alot. The difference between a pc based on Windows crashing and a Mac is that on the pc the crash is in 99% of the cases caused by badly coded third party software, when the Mac just has a faulty operating system. Why else would Apple themselves run their india website on RedHat Linux?
There is another fun part about crashes on the mac, it's almost always impossible to trace the source of the crash. When your mac crashes you simply reinstall the system. Sounds like a fun thing to do on your spare time, well buy a Mac then!

3. Simply the best in digital music

This point is actually based on Apple's iPod. I must admit, the iPod is not an ugly creation. I'll give Apple credit for that. But as always, they exaggerate the benefits of their product. Apple was far from first with creating a portable mp3-player with a built in harddrive but on the other side they do offer the most expensive solution.
The iPod is about 40-60% more expensive than technologically equal products. Keep in mind also that it offers no recording option and no belt clip. Two very crucial benefits a portable mp3-player should have.

4. The missing link in digital photography

It's amazing! Apple has invented a program called iPhotos that will revolutionize the way we look at digital photos. Hear what they have to say: "Simply drag your mouse, and iPhoto magically grows or shrinks your photo thumbnails. So you can view individual shots in detail or see hundreds of photos on the screen at once...".
Maybe mac users are new to digital photos on the computer but on the pc we have a huge variety of freeware that does the job of iPhoto and more, to choose from. So when Apple says that they are "the missing link in digital photography" maybe what they meant was that iPhoto is the missing link of the Mac.
Windows users reached that stage of evolution ages ago.

5. Your own digital entertainment center

It seems that Apple thinks that they've revolutionized computing by developing mediocre software for viewing digital photos, editing video, burning CDs and DVDs and listening to music. Well they haven't!

6. Goes everywhere you go

You better sit down for this one, hold on to your seat and embrace yourself for some cutting edge news from Apple... they've invented the laptop, eureka! Not only that, they think they've made it superior to other laptops. Let's look at why and also try to answer their questions:

* Can your PC laptop go coast to coast with just one battery?
— Ofcourse. And if it only needs the performance of the Mac it could probably go around the world.
* Can you put the system to sleep just by closing the lid?
— Oh my god, a Mac can do that? Well, so can a PC!
* Does it wake up instantly?
—Duh!
* Can your PC laptop automatically switch between Ethernet,
dial-up and wireless connections on the fly?
—Without a doubt!
* Without a restart?
Is this a joke? This really proves that Apple has no clue on what their competitors are doing. If they never have used a PC running Windows it makes their tests and objective sayings about the Mac really credible. Oh, by the way, I was being sarcastic.

7. It's built for the internet

Apple makes a huge point about the easability of configuring an internet connection on a mac. All new Windows versions come with just as easy to use guides for connecting to the internet with modem, lan or anything else. They also brag about such obvious tools of communication like email, favorites and contacts. Yes Apple, this is really new and hot stuff, you are indeed innovative. Or maybe not.
The worst part might be that they lie about their under average video-plugin Quicktime. This might be one of the worst programs ever to install. Actually if some students at a university needed an example of a really poorly written program, this would be a perfect opportunity for Quicktime to step into the limelight.

8. Office is Office, and then some

Yes, the mac comes with Office and this is why you should make the switch from a pc to a mac:

"The transition to a Mac is easy in part because you’ll continue using the same applications you already know"

Ask yourself this: Why would I switch when It's the exactly same on the mac? -Beats me. Apple does speak of some mysterious features in this sentence:

"And thanks to exclusive features, the Mac versions improve on their Windows counterparts"

As you might expect they mention nothing on what these features are. Well they're probably just wonderfully, perfectly and amazingly non-existent!

9. Works effortlessly with PCs

Apple thought for a long time that they'd be best off constructing their own method for network-communication. Everyone that has struggled with the glorious AppleTalk knows that they didn't do a great job. Now they have realised that it's better to use an already working technology that someone else created instead of poorly reinventing the wheel.

"Networking on a Mac is built on the same technologies used by PCs."

They also reveal amazing means of medias you can use on your mac:

..."you can also swap files via data CD, floppies or Zip disks."

10. It's beautiful

Apple emphasises that all their products are masterpieces of design. Their problem is that their focus on design hinders them from creating ergonomical and practical machines. If you have ever used the small round iMac mouse you have probably too suffered from aches in arm and hand.

"...ergonomic products that are the toast of the design world..."

It wasn't I who brought up the word toast into the debate. On the other hand it was I who drew the paralell to machines looking like plain household machines. Who wants a computer that looks like a remnant from the 70's? You could probably achieve the same state of hallucination that you could by inhaling large amounts of heavy drugs.

So what have we learned from these 10 points that Apple provides for the potential buyer. We have learned that Apple likes to tell their future customers that the mac is built on technology they probably already are using on their PCs. They also lure the extremely naive buyers with words like internet, word-processing and cd-burning.

Please do not be fooled. You have nothing to gain by switching to a Mac. Apple has proved it on their own, with a little help from us.
You Macintosh users just need to face that your OS sucks. Quit using it, be a man, and get a PC.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=macintosh&defid=1846978

Mac users can give no justifiable reason to own a mac other than, 'it's great for people who know nothing about computers'. Which is exactly who apple is targeting with their advertising and how mac users come across. Shit, a mac IS a pc. Just goes to show how gullible people are.

Well I'm off to use Photoshop CS4 64 bit, which mac doesn't support, and do a little graphic designing.

[haider]

Talking of viruses, my netbook got a really shitty one called "XPantiviruspro". Was a complete bastard...and I had Norton AV and firewall running as well.

Had to reinstall windows but it wasn't too much hassle as I keep all the other stuff on the other drive.

that fuckin thing is such a bitch- we're talking about the one that doesn't let explorer run right? I downloaded a software called "malwarebytes" which I used to delete the virus file, but I had a lot of trouble even beginning to run the damn program because it wouldn't let it, LOL. 

[MindSpin]

Norton sucks.

AVG and Avast work better and they're free.

If this article wasn't true, it'd be funny. Instead, it's just sad.  

   

The 10 reasons that Apple must think is imperative for making the change from a PC to a MAC can be found on their website. Of course if you have the time to read through all of them you realise that these 10 features or reasons have been standard with the PC a long, long, long time. Some of the reasons are just plain myths that Apple invented. Probably because they ran out of fabricated facts.

So take the journey through the 10 commandments of a mac-enthusiast and enjoy their naive attitude towards personal computing.

1. The Mac... It just works

This is maybe the ultimate reason a mac owner will give you to explain why it's superior to a PC. The mac owner will tell you that all people that own macs are really satisfied with their computers and would never switch back. This is ofcourse not true.
The mac owner will also tell you that with a system from Apple you will never have to think about drivers, upgrades or anything. A mac is perfection itself when delivered. Atleast according to their standard. Many macs can't even be upgraded. So what you buy is what you get. Expect your system to be outdated within 1-2 years.
Apple also states: "Only with a Mac do you get an operating system built by the same people who built the computer it runs on.". Actually Apple's Mac OS X (the operating system) is not based on their own technology, but by the technology of freeBSD. Apple's own capabilities in form of creating an operating system have been demonstrated in previous versions of Mac OS. It took an operating system based on someone else's technology to get a Mac multitasking and not behaving like an oversized pocket calculator from 1985.

2. It doesn't crash

Yes it does! And it does it alot. The difference between a pc based on Windows crashing and a Mac is that on the pc the crash is in 99% of the cases caused by badly coded third party software, when the Mac just has a faulty operating system. Why else would Apple themselves run their india website on RedHat Linux?
There is another fun part about crashes on the mac, it's almost always impossible to trace the source of the crash. When your mac crashes you simply reinstall the system. Sounds like a fun thing to do on your spare time, well buy a Mac then!

3. Simply the best in digital music

This point is actually based on Apple's iPod. I must admit, the iPod is not an ugly creation. I'll give Apple credit for that. But as always, they exaggerate the benefits of their product. Apple was far from first with creating a portable mp3-player with a built in harddrive but on the other side they do offer the most expensive solution.
The iPod is about 40-60% more expensive than technologically equal products. Keep in mind also that it offers no recording option and no belt clip. Two very crucial benefits a portable mp3-player should have.

4. The missing link in digital photography

It's amazing! Apple has invented a program called iPhotos that will revolutionize the way we look at digital photos. Hear what they have to say: "Simply drag your mouse, and iPhoto magically grows or shrinks your photo thumbnails. So you can view individual shots in detail or see hundreds of photos on the screen at once...".
Maybe mac users are new to digital photos on the computer but on the pc we have a huge variety of freeware that does the job of iPhoto and more, to choose from. So when Apple says that they are "the missing link in digital photography" maybe what they meant was that iPhoto is the missing link of the Mac.
Windows users reached that stage of evolution ages ago.

5. Your own digital entertainment center

It seems that Apple thinks that they've revolutionized computing by developing mediocre software for viewing digital photos, editing video, burning CDs and DVDs and listening to music. Well they haven't!

6. Goes everywhere you go

You better sit down for this one, hold on to your seat and embrace yourself for some cutting edge news from Apple... they've invented the laptop, eureka! Not only that, they think they've made it superior to other laptops. Let's look at why and also try to answer their questions:

* Can your PC laptop go coast to coast with just one battery?
— Ofcourse. And if it only needs the performance of the Mac it could probably go around the world.
* Can you put the system to sleep just by closing the lid?
— Oh my god, a Mac can do that? Well, so can a PC!
* Does it wake up instantly?
—Duh!
* Can your PC laptop automatically switch between Ethernet,
dial-up and wireless connections on the fly?
—Without a doubt!
* Without a restart?
Is this a joke? This really proves that Apple has no clue on what their competitors are doing. If they never have used a PC running Windows it makes their tests and objective sayings about the Mac really credible. Oh, by the way, I was being sarcastic.

7. It's built for the internet

Apple makes a huge point about the easability of configuring an internet connection on a mac. All new Windows versions come with just as easy to use guides for connecting to the internet with modem, lan or anything else. They also brag about such obvious tools of communication like email, favorites and contacts. Yes Apple, this is really new and hot stuff, you are indeed innovative. Or maybe not.
The worst part might be that they lie about their under average video-plugin Quicktime. This might be one of the worst programs ever to install. Actually if some students at a university needed an example of a really poorly written program, this would be a perfect opportunity for Quicktime to step into the limelight.

8. Office is Office, and then some

Yes, the mac comes with Office and this is why you should make the switch from a pc to a mac:

"The transition to a Mac is easy in part because you’ll continue using the same applications you already know"

Ask yourself this: Why would I switch when It's the exactly same on the mac? -Beats me. Apple does speak of some mysterious features in this sentence:

"And thanks to exclusive features, the Mac versions improve on their Windows counterparts"

As you might expect they mention nothing on what these features are. Well they're probably just wonderfully, perfectly and amazingly non-existent!

9. Works effortlessly with PCs

Apple thought for a long time that they'd be best off constructing their own method for network-communication. Everyone that has struggled with the glorious AppleTalk knows that they didn't do a great job. Now they have realised that it's better to use an already working technology that someone else created instead of poorly reinventing the wheel.

"Networking on a Mac is built on the same technologies used by PCs."

They also reveal amazing means of medias you can use on your mac:

..."you can also swap files via data CD, floppies or Zip disks."

10. It's beautiful

Apple emphasises that all their products are masterpieces of design. Their problem is that their focus on design hinders them from creating ergonomical and practical machines. If you have ever used the small round iMac mouse you have probably too suffered from aches in arm and hand.

"...ergonomic products that are the toast of the design world..."

It wasn't I who brought up the word toast into the debate. On the other hand it was I who drew the paralell to machines looking like plain household machines. Who wants a computer that looks like a remnant from the 70's? You could probably achieve the same state of hallucination that you could by inhaling large amounts of heavy drugs.

So what have we learned from these 10 points that Apple provides for the potential buyer. We have learned that Apple likes to tell their future customers that the mac is built on technology they probably already are using on their PCs. They also lure the extremely naive buyers with words like internet, word-processing and cd-burning.

Please do not be fooled. You have nothing to gain by switching to a Mac. Apple has proved it on their own, with a little help from us.
You Macintosh users just need to face that your OS sucks. Quit using it, be a man, and get a PC.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=macintosh&defid=1846978

Mac users can give no justifiable reason to own a mac other than, 'it's great for people who know nothing about computers'. Which is exactly who apple is targeting with their advertising and how mac users come across. Shit, a mac IS a pc. Just goes to show how gullible people are.

Well I'm off to use Photoshop CS4 64 bit, which mac doesn't support, and do a little graphic designing.

That entire article is based on someones opinion and has no supportive sources or facts   I used PCs exclusively for 15 years and now use Macs & PCs both.  In my experience the Macs are better in every way.

[TrueGrit]

that fuckin thing is such a bitch- we're talking about the one that doesn't let explorer run right? I downloaded a software called "malwarebytes" which I used to delete the virus file, but I had a lot of trouble even beginning to run the damn program because it wouldn't let it, LOL. 

 That's it. It keeps running a fake virus scan saying you've got worms and trojans and linking you to some bogus site trying to sell you xp antivirus pro.

Shit drove me mad.

[BayGBM]

That entire article is based on someones opinion and has no supportive sources or facts   I used PCs exclusively for 15 years and now use Macs & PCs both.  In my experience the Macs are better in every way.

They are certainly the most handsome! 

[NaturalWonder83]

i own eee pc
its very good

[GRACIE JIU-JITSU]

Mac= over priced, over rated, under powered toy. VERY limited software and expensive for what little you find.
PC= low priced, compatible with the software market, far more powerful for half the price of the Mac.
25 years now and Apple STILL makes their proprietary system that has one of the MOST incompatible systems with the rest of the world. Uses the LEAST popular operating system and only sells to a handful of kiddies who beg their ignorant parents for them because Macs are cute. You want cute, buy some new tennis shoes. You want power, by a PC. Been in the biz for 30+ years and know the golden rule. A computers power is measured by what it can run. That leaves Mac out of the picture.

Lets make it simple for YOU to decide. You can easily find your own answer. Go out and look on the store shelves for the types of software you might be interested in. whether it be games, design software, photo and image editing software, etc. Then simply take a look at the requirements on the box as to what system it runs on. I'll stick with my freedom of choice myself.


PC: If you do anything advanced with a computer, or gaming, or don't have much money.

Mac: If you are not very good with computers.