Mac Vs. PC

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

Good God...I forgot all about the dreaded "defragging"....lol.  What about the "fatal errors", having to download all sorts of virus protection software and having to ctrl+alt+delete every time a PC freezes.

Mac all the way... 

I built my PC almost 2 years ago and its not crashed or etc.  It defrags itself overnight while I'm sleeping so I don't worry about it. 

In addition to Windows XP, I also run Linux and is more reliable and faster than any Mac with similar hardware.   

[Spoony Luv]

Can't the $115,000 Corvette ZR1 beat(performance wise) over half the super cars(over $200,000) on the market?

[timfogarty]

25 years now and Apple STILL makes their proprietary system that has one of the MOST incompatible systems with the rest of the world.

PC: If you do anything advanced with a computer, or gaming, or don't have much money.

Mac: If you are not very good with computers.

really strange claiming Unix is incompatible with the rest of the world and is for people who are not very good with computers.

(Mac OSX is Unix)

[HTexan]

Cubase is native to PC, most if not all systems running Pro Tools are PC...

There's actually been a huge switch from MAC > PC for pro recording in the last 5-7 years, all that's really left on mac is the old cakewalk and Logic is such a f*cked up program that the learning curve is 2 years so most engineers and producers are abandoning it.

I use Cubase and Pro Tools myself, happily on 2 PC machines.

cakewalk is pc only, you dumb fuck . Sonar used to suck, i hear it's better, haven't used the latest versions tho.
wrong, logic is still used a lot, but the std is by far pro tools. With runs WAY better on mac. Most studios have multiple mac pros towers, no question about it. but they write everything off, so they just buy what the best system for their needs is.

[GRACIE JIU-JITSU]

really strange claiming Unix is incompatible with the rest of the world and is for people who are not very good with computers.

(Mac OSX is Unix)

 "Maintenance" some people don't know how to do that.

[GRACIE JIU-JITSU]

Mac has fewer viruses but is still susceptible to them. "OSX.Iservic"

Mac and Windows can both crash and will both need to be reinstalled on occasion.

Mac needs to be on a Mac, and you can only buy Mac parts for it

With Windows you can compare prices with different brands instead of being dictated into a choice

Windows can run more programs.

Windows runs the latest versions of most programs (including Microsoft Office).

Windows programs tend to be cheaper
.
Windows computers are cheaper for the same specs

Windows computers have better specs for the price

[MJK]

PC

[TrueGrit]

[aglifter]

Get a cheap PC laptop (~$400) and install linux

[tleilaxutank]

Mac has fewer viruses but is still susceptible to them. "OSX.Iservic"

Mac and Windows can both crash and will both need to be reinstalled on occasion.

Mac needs to be on a Mac, and you can only buy Mac parts for it

With Windows you can compare prices with different brands instead of being dictated into a choice

Windows can run more programs.

Windows runs the latest versions of most programs (including Microsoft Office).

Windows programs tend to be cheaper
.
Windows computers are cheaper for the same specs

Windows computers have better specs for the price

Thanks for that.  I'm sticking with my overpriced stuff, though. It just works.

[YngiweRhoads]

It just works.

No it doesn't. This is in regards to their 'flagship' line and dated this month.

http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?p=7141

Take a trip over to Apple's own support forums and see if 'it just works'.

http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2212682&start=0&tstart=0

Hopefully you computer illiterates mac users know how to download and install a patch to fix your 'it just costs more' machine.

A graphic designer who I work with is a die hard mac fan and quotes the latest apple catchphrases, as do most mac proponents on this thread. His mac is giving him issues to no end which he doesn't have the computer knowledge to address and repair. His mac is too outdated to warrant direct support from apple.

I work with both OS daily and see no advantage to the mac whatsoever. Right clicking ( double tapping/cntrl click) alone on the mac is buggy and a necessity in graphic design. Or, one could purchase a third party mouse to do the job as well as a 'non-carpal tunnel inducing' keyboard, while you're at it.  I have better workflow on a pc. Perhaps years ago it would have been beneficial to work on a mac, but that's old news. Both machines run virtually identically these days and there are only more advantages to working on a pc. Most importantly, the issue of software compatibility. *Running Boot Camp and installing Win 7 doesn't fix these specific compatibility issues - but then again, it's not 'just working' if you have to install extra software to create compatibility with modern software*

No mac user has given even a single reason to use a mac in this thread, other than quoting apple's media campaign.

[no one]

there is a reason why every electronic DJ in the world who doesn't use cd's anymore uses a Macbook, not a PC.

if anyone needs reliability and a computer thats not going to freeze and fuck up its them.

nuff said. Mac's rule. deal with it you PC bitches.

[YngiweRhoads]

there is a reason why every 95% of computer users in the world use a PC, not a Mac.

if anyone needs usability and a computer that works with 99% of the software available.

nuff said. PC's rule. deal with it you mac sheep.

http://www.macintouch.com/leopard/compat.html

It's a long list, you may want to set aside a couple of hours.

BTW an electronic dj is a musical abomination, but that's for another debate.

[drkaje]

PCs probably offer a bit more flexibility for those with a need to customize.

I just feel the Mac suits my needs far better, has been far more reliable than any PC I've own/used and their customer service has been out of this world. There also aren't many programs I need to run and no games. I probably only have MacSuite, VLC and one or two other things installed.

If it died mid-sentence I'd go to the mac store today and get another one. It really has been that much better than a PC for me.

[YngiweRhoads]

PCs probably offer a bit more flexibility for those with a need to customize.

I just feel the Mac suits my needs far better, has been far more reliable than any PC I've own/used and their customer service has been out of this world. There also aren't many programs I need to run and no games. I probably only have MacSuite, VLC and one or two other things installed.

If it died mid-sentence I'd go to the mac store today and get another one. It really has been that much better than a PC for me.

Odium aside, it basically boils down to user preference and what your own personal needs are when it comes to purchasing a computer.

[jpm101]

I agree with YD's, comes down to preference and needs.Gracie JJ also makes excellent points.  Like working out, some get results with higher volume/moderate weight and others with low volume and heavier weight. But most guy's, somewhere in the middle. Though, I find, Apple (all devises) users seem a little elitist and and self serving (some what like Steve Jobs). And Mac's do obtain viruses. Something akin to Prius owners and the snob appeal of driving one. While the Ford Focus has an all around better rating from independent auto testing (gas, performance, handling, "braking", etc). And is anywhere from 2 to 3+ thousand dollars less.  

Some one on this tread said that they had 5 virus/spyware programs on their computer. That will only conflict with the performance, speed and ability to process (CPU) data. Only need one good antivirus/spyware/malware program, any more can cause false positives and other factors. Might want to go to CNET.com and check out some reviews and even some free anti virus, malware, spyware, etc.

[James28]

I have two Mac's. A 27 inch iMac Quadcore, and a 17 inch Macbook Pro, whilst my girlfriend has a Macbook Air. I also have a badass gaming PC with the latest toys under the hood, and an Acer notebook, so I'm well versed to give an opinion.

In my heart of hearts, stick with a PC. It does anything and everything you want, giving no absolute reason why going for a Mac is a need. Because I dropped a few grand on the Macs, I feel obliged to use them, and do so for my emails, photos and music. Whatever a Mac does, it does incredibly well, makes it look sexy and you enjoy your computing time marvelling at the slickness of it all. However, a PC is more of a workhorse and you can customise the pants of it and make it look just as well as the Mac.

Also, don't let people tell you Macs are immune to crashes and other malfunctions. I had to take my iMac back twice to replace faulty memory, I had issues with Safari crashing, so much to the point that I couldn't use it for 5 minutes without it crashing prompting me to put the Mac back in the box and chuck it in the attic. It only got better with the release of Snow Leopard and now I'm using it again.

Mac is more of an artistic computing experience whilst PC's is there to get things done. Both has their strong points and weak points. Both are equals.

[tleilaxutank]

No it doesn't. This is in regards to their 'flagship' line and dated this month.

http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?p=7141

Take a trip over to Apple's own support forums and see if 'it just works'.

http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2212682&start=0&tstart=0

Hopefully you computer illiterates mac users know how to download and install a patch to fix your 'it just costs more' machine.

A graphic designer who I work with is a die hard mac fan and quotes the latest apple catchphrases, as do most mac proponents on this thread. His mac is giving him issues to no end which he doesn't have the computer knowledge to address and repair. His mac is too outdated to warrant direct support from apple.

I work with both OS daily and see no advantage to the mac whatsoever. Right clicking ( double tapping/cntrl click) alone on the mac is buggy and a necessity in graphic design. Or, one could purchase a third party mouse to do the job as well as a 'non-carpal tunnel inducing' keyboard, while you're at it.  I have better workflow on a pc. Perhaps years ago it would have been beneficial to work on a mac, but that's old news. Both machines run virtually identically these days and there are only more advantages to working on a pc. Most importantly, the issue of software compatibility. *Running Boot Camp and installing Win 7 doesn't fix these specific compatibility issues - but then again, it's not 'just working' if you have to install extra software to create compatibility with modern software*

No mac user has given even a single reason to use a mac in this thread, other than quoting apple's media campaign.

If you don't like it, don't buy it.  I'm not going to try and convince you. I'll stick to what works better for me. But I reject the assertion that people who buy mac's don't know how to use a PC.  When I was younger I used a windows based pc and knew all the tricks, defraging, reformatting, partitioning drives etc. Somewhere along the way I just got sick of it; wanted my computer to do what I want it to do, quickly, and without issues and regular maintenance. 

Your link of the issues with the new 27" imac really proves nothing.  Mac users have the highest customer satisfaction of any PC company.

[James28]

Another thing I would like to add. PC users always mention the tons of programs you get for Windows. Fair enough, but you get the same for Macs as well, not as many, but they do the same thing. There is nothing apart from gaming (in a way) a PC does that a Mac can't do. So clearly the millions of programs for PC is not needed at all. Most is a re-hash of each other anyway.

[Captain Equipoise]

cakewalk is pc only, you dumb fuck . Sonar used to suck, i hear it's better, haven't used the latest versions tho.
wrong, logic is still used a lot, but the std is by far pro tools. With runs WAY better on mac. Most studios have multiple mac pros towers, no question about it. but they write everything off, so they just buy what the best system for their needs is.

Dear retard, come back and talk to me once you actually see the inside of a studio and record something.

Most pro tools systems are PC, fucking inbred peasant.

[tleilaxutank]

If it's good enough for Nine Inch Nails, it's good enough for me!

[GRACIE JIU-JITSU]

If it's good enough for Nine Inch Nails, it's good enough for me!

 

 Question: Can you upgrade your video card?

[GRACIE JIU-JITSU]

 Google Liquid Galaxy.
 Linux on a Pc.

 

[HTexan]

Dear retard, come back and talk to me once you actually see the inside of a studio and record something.

Most pro tools systems are PC, fucking inbred peasant.

you're still the dumb fuck that thinks cakewalk software is made for macs. you blow your whole debate right there.
FYI I have been in pro and home studios , and recorded music weekly in MY home studio.

[Captain Equipoise]

you're still the dumb fuck that thinks cakewalk software is made for macs. you blow your whole debate right there.
FYI I have been in pro and home studios , and recorded music weekly in MY home studio.

LOL, oooooo wow I slipped up on one piece of software I haven't used since 1995..  

since you're such a badass producer, why don't you post some of your work