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Re: Victor Richards Interview by Dave Palumbo
« Reply #50 on: February 15, 2010, 02:04:12 PM »
Ive seen the vid, I can't post it now, but Dorian and Vic matched size for size, he held his own, but yes Dorian was a tad harder.
And he says Ronnie isn't top 12, if Ronnie was using what the Metzer and others from the 70's- early 80's were using. And just eating tuna and water,etc. Listen to the interview again. He wasn't putting him down,he was being matter of fact. I think Ronnie is a genetic freak like him, but lets face it, Ronnie and Dorian were  GH monsters 

Like he wasn't..  They had Gh in the '80's. Don't let Richards's bullshit fool you.

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Re: Victor Richards Interview by Dave Palumbo
« Reply #51 on: February 15, 2010, 02:59:55 PM »
Like he wasn't..  They had Gh in the '80's. Don't let Richards's bullshit fool you.
Quite true, even though he could pull off a vacuum ;) I think, he may have been competitive if he got in shape, and I think that was his issue, he was not ready to compare himself with others, so in short, he was right. How can you compete with anybody, if are not ready to, if you don't know yourself.

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Re: Victor Richards Interview by Dave Palumbo
« Reply #52 on: February 15, 2010, 03:36:17 PM »
Great example of why just because someone can attain pro size does not mean they can do damage on a pro stage.  Reminds me of the other thread where guys were saying that 5-10% of people can attain pro size therefore 5-10% can become pros or that top pros don't have elite genes.  Victor had great genes for putting on size but obviously could not hang with the top competitors and that's why he only competed at Mr. Nigeria and shyed away from better competition.

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Re: Victor Richards Interview by Dave Palumbo
« Reply #53 on: February 15, 2010, 03:44:59 PM »
Great example of why just because someone can attain pro size does not mean they can do damage on a pro stage.  Reminds me of the other thread where guys were saying that 5-10% of people can attain pro size therefore 5-10% can become pros or that top pros don't have elite genes.  Victor had great genes for putting on size but obviously could not hang with the top competitors and that's why he only competed at Mr. Nigeria and shyed away from better competition.
Are you saying he could of beat Nasser with proper dieting?

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Re: Victor Richards Interview by Dave Palumbo
« Reply #54 on: February 15, 2010, 03:46:26 PM »
Great example of why just because someone can attain pro size does not mean they can do damage on a pro stage.  Reminds me of the other thread where guys were saying that 5-10% of people can attain pro size therefore 5-10% can become pros or that top pros don't have elite genes.  Victor had great genes for putting on size but obviously could not hang with the top competitors and that's why he only competed at Mr. Nigeria and shyed away from better competition.

Look I mean the guy in this condition is absolutely worthy of being on a pro stage , not sure of he could have won any major contests or the big one but he's 275 in these pics and looks pretty fucking good


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Re: Victor Richards Interview by Dave Palumbo
« Reply #55 on: February 15, 2010, 03:49:34 PM »
Quite true, even though he could pull off a vacuum ;) I think, he may have been competitive if he got in shape, and I think that was his issue, he was not ready to compare himself with others, so in short, he was right. How can you compete with anybody, if are not ready to, if you don't know yourself.

Why was he ready to compete against Nigerian amateurs then?  Yeah he wasn't ready to compete against guys like this who would have blown him out of the water ;)



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Re: Victor Richards Interview by Dave Palumbo
« Reply #56 on: February 15, 2010, 03:54:18 PM »
Why was he ready to compete against Nigerian amateurs then?  Yeah he wasn't ready to compete against guys like this who would have blown him out of the water ;)



He looks better than Nasser in that comparasion. And probably would have beaten him if he was in shape. If you were to take a poll, everybody but you And Shalaby would agree.

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Re: Victor Richards Interview by Dave Palumbo
« Reply #57 on: February 15, 2010, 03:56:23 PM »
He looks better than Nasser in that comparasion. And probably would have beaten him if he was in shape. If you were to take a poll, everybody but you And Shalaby would agree.

I don't know about him beating Nasser

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Re: Victor Richards Interview by Dave Palumbo
« Reply #58 on: February 15, 2010, 03:57:16 PM »
He looks better than Nasser in that comparasion. And probably would have beaten him if he was in shape. If you were to take a poll, everybody but you And Shalaby would agree.

haha I purposely posted that comparison because I knew you would make such a silly post in response ;)  The only thing Victor has over Nasser there is a bigger head compared to his delts, chest, etc.  

Yup, Vic simply refused tons of money he could have earned by having a better career than Nasser simply because he did not want to lol

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Re: Victor Richards Interview by Dave Palumbo
« Reply #59 on: February 15, 2010, 03:58:08 PM »
I don't know about him beating Nasser

Parker always sides with the black guys ;)

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Re: Victor Richards Interview by Dave Palumbo
« Reply #60 on: February 15, 2010, 04:00:15 PM »
Parker always sides with the black guys ;)

I don't think so , Parker is pretty objective


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Re: Victor Richards Interview by Dave Palumbo
« Reply #61 on: February 15, 2010, 04:02:33 PM »
I think in shape it would have been close with Vic and Nasser, Vic has him on back shots

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Re: Victor Richards Interview by Dave Palumbo
« Reply #62 on: February 15, 2010, 04:03:49 PM »
I think in shape it would have been close with Vic and Nasser, Vic has him on back shots

Got any back shots of him to support that statement?  From the front pics his lats look relatively narrow

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Re: Victor Richards Interview by Dave Palumbo
« Reply #63 on: February 15, 2010, 04:06:12 PM »
Got any back shots of him to support that statement?  From the front pics his lats look relatively narrow

He has a similar structure as Nasser with short legs and a long torso with highish lats and the back shots I'm not sure he beats Nasser on

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Re: Victor Richards Interview by Dave Palumbo
« Reply #64 on: February 15, 2010, 04:10:24 PM »
haha I purposely posted that comparison because I knew you would make such a silly post in response ;)  The only thing Victor has over Nasser there is a bigger head compared to his delts, chest, etc.  

Yup, Vic simply refused tons of money he could have earned by having a better career than Nasser simply because he did not want to lol
Duh, why do you think I said, you could take a poll. And everybody would agree, except you and Shalaby. I knew what you were doing.
Vic has better shape, muscle size, density. He made money from guess posing and being an "enigma". No lose of money getting ready for shows, worrying about "politics", and chances are his internal organs are a lot better than most who competed in that era, black, white, or of Arab descent. Granted, his back door way of getting his pro card is suspect. It doesn't mean he can't hang.
In fact, I gather his "slickster" way of doing things, may even be---a product of certain aspects of being Nigerian. In Nigeria certain ehtnic groups take pride in being "slick" or "tricksters", there is a saying "Never trust a Nigerian", I don't know for sure, but that may have some bearing of why he did and or says the things he says. Now that I think about it--I'm throwing that out as a possible theory. I could be dead wrong.

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Re: Victor Richards Interview by Dave Palumbo
« Reply #65 on: February 15, 2010, 04:14:03 PM »
He has a similar structure as Nasser with short legs and a long torso with highish lats and the back shots I'm not sure he beats Nasser on

Nasser would destroy this guy in a contest, but we'll never know because Vic didn't ever want to "measure himself by other peoples standards."

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Re: Victor Richards Interview by Dave Palumbo
« Reply #66 on: February 15, 2010, 04:16:55 PM »
Duh, why do you think I said, you could take a poll. And everybody would agree, except you and Shalaby. I knew what you were doing.
Vic has better shape, muscle size, density. He made money from guess posing and being an "enigma". No lose of money getting ready for shows, worrying about "politics", and chances are his internal organs are a lot better than most who competed in that era, black, white, or of Arab descent. Granted, his back door way of getting his pro card is suspect. It doesn't mean he can't hang.
In fact, I gather his "slickster" way of doing things, may even be---a product of certain aspects of being Nigerian. In Nigeria certain ehtnic groups take pride in being "slick" or "tricksters", there is a saying "Never trust a Nigerian", I don't know for sure, but that may have some bearing of why he did and or says the things he says. Now that I think about it--I'm throwing that out as a possible theory. I could be dead wrong.

Doesnt seem that way so far in this thread :)

BTW if others agree with you on this topic its simply out of an effort to blindly disagree with Nasser-fans since they are annoyed with our posts, and not an honest opinion on  their physiques.

Here's a great post in this thread I'm surprised it has been ignored:

Vic stopped competing because he couldn't hold his size when dieting. Also his legs overshadowed his upper body when he was dieting. His back dissapeared. He won a joke contest to go pro. i think it was the Mr. Nigeria or something like that. He wanted no part of real compeition.

He tried to diet for the Night of Champions and quit with 6 weeks to go. He was losing a ton of size and still had another 20 to go. Vic was strong as hell, and an off season monster but he couldn't bring it to the stage. Always bullshitting his weight and measurements. Always full of excuses claiming everyone was jealous of him.

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Re: Victor Richards Interview by Dave Palumbo
« Reply #67 on: February 15, 2010, 04:26:19 PM »
Well his back in that non show condition looks better than Nasser's ever did. I think he would have beaten Nasser had he been in shape. When Flex was in his best shape, which were the spring shows, he beat Nasser. Now, Vic could obtain Nasser's size, and had great back detail. Plus his ass loved to train. In a hypothetical scenario, I think he could have beaten Nasser. But he didn't nor did he compete, so it is moot.

Nasser looked his best at a lower bodyweight. When he started putting on size, he look like a block of muscle. He was born with good lines, not great lines, but good lines. And that is what fucked him up, good lines eventually become blurred once you start slapping on weight.

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Re: Victor Richards Interview by Dave Palumbo
« Reply #68 on: February 15, 2010, 04:27:34 PM »
Well his back in that non show condition looks better than Nasser's ever did. I think he would have beaten Nasser had he been in shape. When Flex was in his best shape, which were the spring shows, he beat Nasser. Now, Vic could obtain Nasser's size, and had great back detail. Plus his ass loved to train. In a hypothetical scenario, I think he could have beaten Nasser. But he didn't nor did he compete, so it is moot.

Nasser looked his best at a lower bodyweight. When he started putting on size, he look like a block of muscle. He was born with good lines, not great lines, but good lines. And that is what fucked him up, good lines eventually become blurred once you start slapping on weight.

Nasser would mop the floor with this guy.  Sorry, but it has to be said. 

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Re: Victor Richards Interview by Dave Palumbo
« Reply #69 on: February 15, 2010, 04:44:14 PM »
Nasser would mop the floor with this guy.  Sorry, but it has to be said. 
Possible, but hard to say. He has better back detail than Nasser. Nasser has him on width, but as we saw at the 1997 Arnold, Nasser was wider than Flex, and Flex weighed 224, Nasser weighed 275-280, and Flex won. Better shape, detail, back detail, and he won the Most Muscular award, real blow. So, to say that Nasser would "mop the floor" would not exactly be correct. It would have been close, possibly have gone either way.
Vic as you can clearly see, his strength is arms, legs, chest and back detail. And has huge calves--even though they are high. That one YouTube vid, with him in grey, shows that he  obtain back width. I don't know when that vid was shot vs. The adverts.
His weaknesses, were high lats, and slightly narrow. Plus his thick skin. They may not seem much but it can mak or break a physique.

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Re: Victor Richards Interview by Dave Palumbo
« Reply #70 on: February 15, 2010, 05:11:10 PM »
Possible, but hard to say. He has better back detail than Nasser. Nasser has him on width, but as we saw at the 1997 Arnold, Nasser was wider than Flex, and Flex weighed 224, Nasser weighed 275-280, and Flex won. Better shape, detail, back detail, and he won the Most Muscular award, real blow. So, to say that Nasser would "mop the floor" would not exactly be correct. It would have been close, possibly have gone either way.
Vic as you can clearly see, his strength is arms, legs, chest and back detail. And has huge calves--even though they are high. That one YouTube vid, with him in grey, shows that he  obtain back width. I don't know when that vid was shot vs. The adverts.
His weaknesses, were high lats, and slightly narrow. Plus his thick skin. They may not seem much but it can mak or break a physique.

Wrong, its EASY to say.  Got any pics of Vic in contest shape?  What was his last show - the Mr. Nigeria?  Compare that to Nasser's contest pics.  The guy could not come in contest shape while being big and shredded, and that's why he cowered away from the big shows and dropped out 6 weeks out of the NOC.  Vic is no Flex Wheeler.  His back is weak too, looks very narrow and is not even very detailed.  

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Re: Victor Richards Interview by Dave Palumbo
« Reply #71 on: February 15, 2010, 05:27:59 PM »
Vic talked the talk but never walked the walk.

Yes,. he was massive and could get lean but never to competition condition but he never did compete for whatever his own reasons.
To each his own.

On the other hand, Nasser walked the walk without using all the hyperbole of Vic.

Nasser would let his physique do the talking on stage, where it counted.

Nasser achieved!  Vic never realised his potential. Nasser realised his potential and then some...........

Nasser is a success. Vic a wannabe, who could have been BUT never was................

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Re: Victor Richards Interview by Dave Palumbo
« Reply #72 on: February 15, 2010, 05:30:24 PM »
Possible, but hard to say. He has better back detail than Nasser. Nasser has him on width, but as we saw at the 1997 Arnold, Nasser was wider than Flex, and Flex weighed 224, Nasser weighed 275-280, and Flex won. Better shape, detail, back detail, and he won the Most Muscular award, real blow. So, to say that Nasser would "mop the floor" would not exactly be correct. It would have been close, possibly have gone either way.
Vic as you can clearly see, his strength is arms, legs, chest and back detail. And has huge calves--even though they are high. That one YouTube vid, with him in grey, shows that he  obtain back width. I don't know when that vid was shot vs. The adverts.
His weaknesses, were high lats, and slightly narrow. Plus his thick skin. They may not seem much but it can mak or break a physique.

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Re: Victor Richards Interview by Dave Palumbo
« Reply #73 on: February 15, 2010, 05:53:32 PM »
Vic was similar to Paul Dillet in that they both had big arms, small waist, and weak back, but Paul looks much more impressive than Vic...yet Paul still never beat Nasser after his transformation from 94 to 95.  If Paul never competed and we only had solo magazine pics to go off of as we do with Vic everyone would be saying he would be Mr. O if he wanted to, however it becomes a different story when you actually put him onstage against the top few guys.

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Re: Victor Richards Interview by Dave Palumbo
« Reply #74 on: February 16, 2010, 01:17:06 AM »
Parker always sides with the black guys ;)

And don't you always side with arab bbers??