The UFC Dominated Pay Per View in 2009

[MindSpin]

Top 10 PPV buy rates, 2009

1. UFC 100: Brock Lesnar vs. Frank Mir, July 11, 1.6 million

2. Boxing: Manny Pacquiao vs. Miguel Cotto, Nov. 14, 1.25 million

3. Boxing: Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs. Juan Manuel Marquez, Sept. 19, 1.05 millon

4. UFC 94: Georges St. Pierre vs. B.J. Penn, Jan. 31, 920,000 buys

5. UFC 101: Penn vs. Kenny Florian/Anderson Silva vs. Forrest Griffin, Aug. 8, 850,000

6. Boxing: Pacquiao vs. Ricky Hatton, May 2, 825,000

7t. UFC 107: Penn vs. Diego Sanchez, Dec. 12, 650,000

7t. UFC 97: Silva vs. Thales Leites/Chuck Liddell vs. Mauricio Rua, April 18, 650,000

9. UFC 98: Lyoto Machida vs. Rashad Evans/Matt Hughes vs. Matt Serra, May 23, 635,000

10. Wrestling: WWE WrestleMania 25, April 5, 582,000 buys

[*ChuteBoxe*]

You can take that with a grain of salt since Zuffa isn't required by law to report exact PPV buy numbers like boxing is since they are a privately owned and operated entity.  Richard Shaefer actually challenged Dana White (since Dana and Zuffa are pretty notorious for inflating and exaggerating there actual PPV buy #'s) and offered to provide him a firm free of charge of his choice that would calculate exact PPV numbers and buy rates as long as they make the results public and he declined.

[AC Slater]

You can take that with a grain of salt since Zuffa isn't required by law to report exact PPV buy numbers like boxing is since they are a privately owned and operated entity.  Richard Shaefer actually challenged Dana White (since Dana and Zuffa are pretty notorious for inflating and exaggerating there actual PPV buy #'s) and offered to provide him a firm free of charge of his choice that would calculate exact PPV numbers and buy rates as long as they make the results public and he declined.

dana is a pussy.  does this surprise you?

[*ChuteBoxe*]

dana is a pussy.  does this surprise you?

Nope, the fact that people believe the shit he spews does.

[marty31672]

Top 10 PPV buy rates, 2009

1. UFC 100: Brock Lesnar vs. Frank Mir, July 11, 1.6 million

2. Boxing: Manny Pacquiao vs. Miguel Cotto, Nov. 14, 1.25 million

3. Boxing: Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs. Juan Manuel Marquez, Sept. 19, 1.05 millon

4. UFC 94: Georges St. Pierre vs. B.J. Penn, Jan. 31, 920,000 buys

5. UFC 101: Penn vs. Kenny Florian/Anderson Silva vs. Forrest Griffin, Aug. 8, 850,000

6. Boxing: Pacquiao vs. Ricky Hatton, May 2, 825,000

7t. UFC 107: Penn vs. Diego Sanchez, Dec. 12, 650,000

7t. UFC 97: Silva vs. Thales Leites/Chuck Liddell vs. Mauricio Rua, April 18, 650,000

9. UFC 98: Lyoto Machida vs. Rashad Evans/Matt Hughes vs. Matt Serra, May 23, 635,000

10. Wrestling: WWE WrestleMania 25, April 5, 582,000 buys

impressive statitistics
the ufc is no doubt the premiere league in the world

[noworries]

You can take that with a grain of salt since Zuffa isn't required by law to report exact PPV buy numbers like boxing is since they are a privately owned and operated entity.  Richard Shaefer actually challenged Dana White (since Dana and Zuffa are pretty notorious for inflating and exaggerating there actual PPV buy #'s) and offered to provide him a firm free of charge of his choice that would calculate exact PPV numbers and buy rates as long as they make the results public and he declined.

They do that to increase ad cost.  The more people who they say view it the more the can ask from sponsors.

[heavyNbasic]

Is that US PPV buys, or world wide?  I'm assuming US.  I can't see a UFC PPV buys topping boxing or WWE in the global market, but ya never know. 

[Darren Avey]

When a mega HW boxer,like a Tyson, comes along then boxing will sit on top again trust me.

[MindSpin]

When a mega HW boxer,like a Tyson, comes along then boxing will sit on top again trust me.

Most talented fighters are making their way into MMA.  Boxing is hopelessly fucked.  Not going to happen...

[AC Slater]

Most talented fighters are making their way into MMA.  Boxing is hopelessly fucked.  Not going to happen...

as long as a guy with a 5-1 record is ranked #2 in the world, mma means jack shit.  it is a little kids game.

there are plenty of boxers with records like 30-4 who would die for a title shot if they could get it

[Captain Equipoise]

It's hard not to dominate when you have no competition.. lol,  who is going to beat them? strikeforce !? dana bought out Pride, and boxing has become a joke..it's not so much that the UFC is the best, it's just that there's not much else choice wise..

[noworries]

Most talented fighters are making their way into MMA.  Boxing is hopelessly fucked.  Not going to happen...

If you think cause MMA is bringing in more than Boxing in PPV money will cause boxing to fail then you really are dumb.  Boxing will be here for as long as MMA is around and even longer.  Find out how many live audience views each sport.  The live gate for boxing has not gone down.  It isn't like they are fighting in front of less fans.  MMA has more PPV shows too I would think.  Maybe boxing should be putting on more major fights so they can get more PPV revenue.

[MindSpin]

It's hard not to dominate when you have no competition.. lol,  who is going to beat them? strikeforce !? dana bought out Pride, and boxing has become a joke..it's not so much that the UFC is the best, it's just that there's not much else choice wise..

Did you actually think about what you wrote before you wrote it  

"...it's not so much that the UFC is the best, it's just that there's not much else choice wise.."

You're right.  There's not much else choice wise, because the UFC is better than everything else out there   IFL, Affliction, Pride, etc. all have succumbed to the better option and as a result the UFC dominates. 

[MindSpin]

If you think cause MMA is bringing in more than Boxing in PPV money will cause boxing to fail then you really are dumb.  Boxing will be here for as long as MMA is around and even longer.  Find out how many live audience views each sport.  The live gate for boxing has not gone down.  It isn't like they are fighting in front of less fans.  MMA has more PPV shows too I would think.  Maybe boxing should be putting on more major fights so they can get more PPV revenue.

Where did I say that MMA getting more PPVs is what is destroying boxing   I said that because MMA is now more popular, it is more likely to attract great fighters that would otherwise have chosen boxing.

[Darren Avey]

Haha more popular than boxing!! 9999 out of 10000 people would have told you Mike Tyson was HW champ when he was at the top, id say 3 out of 10000 would know Brock Lesnars UFC champ.
Next great HW comes along then UFC/MMA will go back to obscurity

[MindSpin]

Haha more popular than boxing!! 9999 out of 10000 people would have told you Mike Tyson was HW champ when he was at the top, id say 3 out of 10000 would know Brock Lesnars UFC champ.
Next great HW comes along then UFC/MMA will go back to obscurity

Oh brother   You're not actually saying that boxing is more popular than MMA today are you   How many people can name the current heavyweight boxing champ? 

[Fury]

Most talented fighters are making their way into MMA.  Boxing is hopelessly fucked.  Not going to happen...

You're really delusional if you believe this. Who in their right mind would chase after a $10k pay day over a possible multi-million dollar payday. The third and fourth tier strikers who couldn't hack it in a boxing ring, that's who. For what it's worth, boxing and UFC each hold 3 of the top 6 spots, with boxing holding 2 of the top 3. Dead? Far from it. If Mayweather/Pacquiao fight, it will easily be #1 for the year. And this is coming from someone who prefers MMA to boxing.

I'll put a .357 to my head and take the bet that those numbers are doctored.

[MindSpin]

You're really delusional if you believe this. Who in their right mind would chase after a $10k pay day over a possible multi-million dollar payday. The third and fourth tier strikers who couldn't hack it in a boxing ring, that's who. For what it's worth, boxing and UFC each hold 3 of the top 6 spots, with boxing holding 2 of the top 3. Dead? Far from it. If Mayweather/Pacquiao fight, it will easily be #1 for the year. And this is coming from someone who prefers MMA to boxing.

I'll put a .357 to my head and take the bet that those numbers are doctored.

Who, besides 2-3 guys in boxing is is getting a "multi-million dollar payday" 

At least in MMA, the money is more evenly spread out AND there is a shiatload more to be made on sponsorships. 

[Fury]

Who, besides 2-3 guys in boxing is is getting a "multi-million dollar payday"  

At least in MMA, the money is more evenly spread out AND there is a shiatload more to be made on sponsorships.  

Who, besides the 2-3 top guys in MMA, makes more than $100k per fight? Now, would someone rather chase the possibility of making millions or the possibility of making a few thousand?

Spread out? Yeah, getting $10k to fight is really "spreading it out". And no one outside of the guys named Chuck Liddell, Brock Lesnar and a few others are raking it in with sponsorships, despite what lies you may claim. Do second string NFL players rake it in with sponsorships? Of course not.

And then you have the gall to claim you don't have a vested interest in the UFC.

[Captain Equipoise]

Who, besides 2-3 guys in boxing is is getting a "multi-million dollar payday" 

At least in MMA, the money is more evenly spread out AND there is a shiatload more to be made on sponsorships. 

Hahahahaha, you have absolutely no f*cking clue what you're talking about bud, a few guys make over $150,000 a fight, 3/4 of the other fighters make under $50,000 some of the undercards make $5,000 a fight..

[noworries]

Oh brother   You're not actually saying that boxing is more popular than MMA today are you   How many people can name the current heavyweight boxing champ? 

If MMA is so popular why doesn't it pay more.  Pacquiao made more in fight than the total purse of the last 15 to 20 UFC fights.  That is embarrassing to MMA.  How in the hell can you say MMA spreads the wealth.  Sometimes I think you live with Falcon

[MindSpin]

Are you guys serious   One of the key things that has caused boxing to slide as much as it has, is the way money was/is distributed.  You have 1-2 guys making 80%+ of the available revenues and everyone else, promoters, undercard fighters, etc. making the rest.  It's not sustainable.

The UFC has taken a completely different approach.  The promoter, which makes it all possible, makes the majority of the profit and the rest is distributed among the fighters.  The result?  A more sustainable business that continues to grow and provide growing opportunities for fighters.   

[Fury]

It's no different. The majority of the purses in the UFC are distributed among the top 2 or 3 guys. Brock Lesnar alone makes more than pretty much every other fighter on the card combined. Most of the cards are made up of guys getting peanuts.

You change your argument every time. First it's the fighters make a lot of money from the actual fights. Then you get called on that and you say that the bulk of their salaries come from endorsements and sponsorships, which is again bullshit. Now you're back to claiming that the UFC pays all fighters adequately. Yes, $10k to win is indeed adequate given how much money you claim they make on their PPVs. L-O-L.  

Fact of the matter is that if you're not a belt holder or a big name fighter you really aren't making shit in the UFC.

[MindSpin]

I'm not changing my story.  Fighters who are on the televised bouts do in fact make much more from their endorsements than they do from the actual fights.  Also, I don't think that most of these guys are getting rich off of being fighters, but who said they were supposed to? 

As for the top guys making more, why of course   If you are at the top of your game, you should make more than those who are at the bottom.  I make a shitload more money than my secretary, just as Lesnar makes a shitload more than Todd Duffee.  The difference is that in Boxing, the payment gap is ridiculous.  I've posted all these numbers on a different thread.  Do your homework boy.

[marty31672]

todd duffee could be better than lesner someday