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Re: Where's Reverand Al and Jesse now?
« Reply #25 on: February 18, 2010, 12:25:05 PM »
Key DNA Evidence in Duke Rape Case Withheld From Defense for Six Months, Lawyers Charge
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Buried in thousands of documents handed over to defense lawyers by the district attorney in the Duke rape case was a stunning report from a private lab hired by the prosecution that found DNA from multiple males in the accuser's body ? but none that belonged to the accused players, according to a defense motion filed Wednesday.

The lab, DNA Security of Burlington, found during tests performed last April that not only did the DNA not match the three defendants, but that it also did not belong to any of their lacrosse teammates or anyone else who submitted DNA samples to police, including the accuser's boyfriend. Those findings were not turned over to the defense until October, when District Attorney Mike Nifong's office turned over thousands of case-related documents.

"This is strong evidence of innocence in a case in which the accuser denied engaging in any sexual activity in the days before the alleged assault, told police she last had consensual sexual intercourse a week before the assault, and claimed that her attackers did not use condoms and ejaculated," lawyers for the three accused players said in the motion.

 
 
Neither DNA Security or Nifong ? who has come under intense criticism for his handling of the case ? explained Wednesday why the DNA findings were not reported immediately to defense lawyers, as is required by law, or why they were not turned over to the defense until October.

None of DNA Security's findings were included in its final report to Nifong on May 12.

"There is not a single mention of this obviously exculpatory evidence in the final DNA Security report," the motion said.

Citing the state's open-file discovery law and the U.S. Supreme Court's requirement that prosecutors hand over all helpful evidence to the defense, the players' lawyers asked that Nifong and the lab be ordered to provide copies of all laboratory analyses, including those performed after May 12.

The three now former lacrosse players ? Dave Evans, 23, of Bethesda, Md.; Collin Finnerty, 20, of Garden City, N.Y.; and Reade Seligmann, 20, of Essex Fells, N.J. ? are facing charges of rape, kidnapping and sexual offense. All three have not only proclaimed their innocence, but the innocence of their teammates as well.

Their trial is not expected to begin until the spring.

The accuser, who is an exotic dancer, was one of two women hired to dance at an off-campus lacrosse party in March. She claims she was gang-raped by three men in a bathroom over a 30-minute period. She told hospital officials that not only was she raped, but that one or more of the men ejaculated, and that her assailants did not wear condoms.

All but one lacrosse player submitted to DNA tests back when the charges first surfaced earlier this year. The sole black player on the team did not get tested because the accuser, who is black, said her attackers were white. Tests failed to conclusively show any lacrosse players' DNA in or on the accuser.

The prosecution has claimed that those tests do not positively prove that no lacrosse players were involved, only that they were careful during the alleged attack.

A few hours after the party on March 14, a doctor and nurse at Duke Hospital examined the accuser and collected standard evidence for a rape kit from her mouth, vagina and other areas. Samples were sent to the State Bureau of Investigation (SBI), which on March 28, found no evidence of semen, blood or saliva.

On April 4 after meeting with Nifon, Durham police called DNA Security for more sensitive Y-chromosome testing that analyzes only male DNA. The next day, Nifong's office asked a judge to approve the transfer of the DNA evidence to DNA Security, since SBI found no traces of semed on any of the swabs from the accuser or her underwear.

The lab would test the swabs and panty stains for DNA and match any results to the 46 players, the accuser and any other DNA samples collected by police.

On April 8, 9 and 10, DNA Security found DNA from multiple males on the panties and from rape-kit swabs. Although DNA Security did not report specifics of those findings, the motions filed Wednesday say other documents provided to defense attorneys in October showed that, "DNA from multiple male sources was discovered on the rectal swabs and panties from the rape kit; it was all compared to the known reference samples from the lacrosse players; and none of it matched any of the players."

By April 10, DNA Security analysts concluded DNA from multiple males was on the accuser's panties in in her rape kit, but none belonged to any of the Duke lacrosse players.

None of those findings, however, were included in DNA Security's final report, according to the defense motion. The motion claims that omission was a direct violation of the company's policy.

Rep. Walter Jones, R-N.C., wrote a letter to Attorney General Alberto Gonzales Tuesday asking for an investigation into Nifong to determine whether he is guilty of prosecutorial misconduct.

"Over the past several months, many of my constituents and a growing number of mainstream media outlets have raised serious questions about the accuser's allegations and Mr. Nifong's prosecution," Jones wrote.

Jones' complaints to Gonzales repeat criticisms that defense attorneys and others have raised about Nifong's handling of the case.


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NEXT TIME GET YOUR FUCKING FACTS STRAIGHT.YOUR AN ASS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: Where's Reverand Al and Jesse now?
« Reply #26 on: February 18, 2010, 01:07:31 PM »
Unless the baby was white, there is still no evidence of a rape. 

You obviously forgot the woman was taken to the hospital right after the incident and was found having all of the evidence and wounds of RAPE: scarring, semen, skin of perpetrators etc. Not to mention the rest of her broken finger nails in the fraternity where the incident happened. Oh and lets not forget how the three rapist LIED and claimed she was never at the fraternity... then admitted she was there and did a striptease dance as she was hired to do so. The three whites are assholes and liars. It is well known that they are from well to do families who are alumni at Duke as well.... Can you say COVERUP!!!!!
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Re: Where's Reverand Al and Jesse now?
« Reply #27 on: February 18, 2010, 01:11:39 PM »
You obviously forgot the woman was taken to the hospital right after the incident and was found having all of the evidence and wounds of RAPE: scarring, semen, skin of perpetrators etc. Not to mention the rest of her broken finger nails in the fraternity where the incident happened. Oh and lets not forget how the three rapist LIED and claimed she was never at the fraternity... then admitted she was there and did a striptease dance as she was hired to do so. The three whites are assholes and liars. It is well known that they are from well to do families who are alumni at Duke as well.... Can you say COVERUP!!!!!

However - didnt she admit to having sex with her boyfriend that night as well though? 

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Re: Where's Reverand Al and Jesse now?
« Reply #28 on: February 18, 2010, 01:27:04 PM »
Key DNA Evidence in Duke Rape Case Withheld From Defense for Six Months, Lawyers Charge
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Buried in thousands of documents handed over to defense lawyers by the district attorney in the Duke rape case was a stunning report from a private lab hired by the prosecution that found DNA from multiple males in the accuser's body ? but none that belonged to the accused players, according to a defense motion filed Wednesday.

The lab, DNA Security of Burlington, found during tests performed last April that not only did the DNA not match the three defendants, but that it also did not belong to any of their lacrosse teammates or anyone else who submitted DNA samples to police, including the accuser's boyfriend. Those findings were not turned over to the defense until October, when District Attorney Mike Nifong's office turned over thousands of case-related documents.

"This is strong evidence of innocence in a case in which the accuser denied engaging in any sexual activity in the days before the alleged assault, told police she last had consensual sexual intercourse a week before the assault, and claimed that her attackers did not use condoms and ejaculated," lawyers for the three accused players said in the motion.

 
 
Neither DNA Security or Nifong ? who has come under intense criticism for his handling of the case ? explained Wednesday why the DNA findings were not reported immediately to defense lawyers, as is required by law, or why they were not turned over to the defense until October.

None of DNA Security's findings were included in its final report to Nifong on May 12.

"There is not a single mention of this obviously exculpatory evidence in the final DNA Security report," the motion said.

Citing the state's open-file discovery law and the U.S. Supreme Court's requirement that prosecutors hand over all helpful evidence to the defense, the players' lawyers asked that Nifong and the lab be ordered to provide copies of all laboratory analyses, including those performed after May 12.

The three now former lacrosse players ? Dave Evans, 23, of Bethesda, Md.; Collin Finnerty, 20, of Garden City, N.Y.; and Reade Seligmann, 20, of Essex Fells, N.J. ? are facing charges of rape, kidnapping and sexual offense. All three have not only proclaimed their innocence, but the innocence of their teammates as well.

Their trial is not expected to begin until the spring.

The accuser, who is an exotic dancer, was one of two women hired to dance at an off-campus lacrosse party in March. She claims she was gang-raped by three men in a bathroom over a 30-minute period. She told hospital officials that not only was she raped, but that one or more of the men ejaculated, and that her assailants did not wear condoms.

All but one lacrosse player submitted to DNA tests back when the charges first surfaced earlier this year. The sole black player on the team did not get tested because the accuser, who is black, said her attackers were white. Tests failed to conclusively show any lacrosse players' DNA in or on the accuser.

The prosecution has claimed that those tests do not positively prove that no lacrosse players were involved, only that they were careful during the alleged attack.

A few hours after the party on March 14, a doctor and nurse at Duke Hospital examined the accuser and collected standard evidence for a rape kit from her mouth, vagina and other areas. Samples were sent to the State Bureau of Investigation (SBI), which on March 28, found no evidence of semen, blood or saliva.

On April 4 after meeting with Nifon, Durham police called DNA Security for more sensitive Y-chromosome testing that analyzes only male DNA. The next day, Nifong's office asked a judge to approve the transfer of the DNA evidence to DNA Security, since SBI found no traces of semed on any of the swabs from the accuser or her underwear.

The lab would test the swabs and panty stains for DNA and match any results to the 46 players, the accuser and any other DNA samples collected by police.

On April 8, 9 and 10, DNA Security found DNA from multiple males on the panties and from rape-kit swabs. Although DNA Security did not report specifics of those findings, the motions filed Wednesday say other documents provided to defense attorneys in October showed that, "DNA from multiple male sources was discovered on the rectal swabs and panties from the rape kit; it was all compared to the known reference samples from the lacrosse players; and none of it matched any of the players."

By April 10, DNA Security analysts concluded DNA from multiple males was on the accuser's panties in in her rape kit, but none belonged to any of the Duke lacrosse players.

None of those findings, however, were included in DNA Security's final report, according to the defense motion. The motion claims that omission was a direct violation of the company's policy.

Rep. Walter Jones, R-N.C., wrote a letter to Attorney General Alberto Gonzales Tuesday asking for an investigation into Nifong to determine whether he is guilty of prosecutorial misconduct.

"Over the past several months, many of my constituents and a growing number of mainstream media outlets have raised serious questions about the accuser's allegations and Mr. Nifong's prosecution," Jones wrote.

Jones' complaints to Gonzales repeat criticisms that defense attorneys and others have raised about Nifong's handling of the case.


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NEXT TIME GET YOUR FUCKING FACTS STRAIGHT.YOUR AN ASS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This whole case was a circus of hiding and withholding evidence as Duke and these rapist's well to do families worked out deals to slander this rape victim to make them appear innocent. The masses were told of nothing for a long period of time, other than the initial reports after her hospital entry and examination that showed SHE WAS RAPED and then all of a sudden the victim became the perpetrator and the perpetrators became the victims when the well to do families jumped into DENIAL and claimed their sons were good students and would never do such a thing...Uh Yeah Right!!!! Duke immediately claimed they had no responsibility because this event occurred off of the campus and on fraternity grounds which they are not responsible for. At no time ever did the hospital report after the examination that there was any anal sex or semen from other men or any other slanderous accusations. Pretty poor investigation from the hospital to not ask and check for such intrusion...and certainly the victim would have spoken of being raped anally if it had happened. Now these cases of women being battered, raped, abused, tortured, jailed etc and being made to see like the perpetrator in america are getting ridiculous. There was just another thread of a white woman who was brutally beaten by a white cop on this board and not one of you gave a damn about it. There was another thread some time ago of another white woman who called the cops because her neighbors were fighting...instead of the cops arresting them they arrested her, dragged her to prison, stripped her naked, brutalized her and threw her into solitary confinement. To my amazement many of you, like this woman who was just abused while the cop turned the camera off, were GLAD she was beaten. What the hell kind of mentality do you all have working in your heads????
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Re: Where's Reverand Al and Jesse now?
« Reply #29 on: February 18, 2010, 01:35:51 PM »
However - didnt she admit to having sex with her boyfriend that night as well though? 

Consensual sex will NOT produce the scarring in the vagina like a rape will...which is what this woman had. Not to mention the fact that HER BROKEN FINGER NAILS WERE FOUND IN THE FRATERNITY ALONG WITH THE SCARS ON THE PERPETRATORS. If this was her boyfriends semen you can believe the media would have been all over this and he would have been DNA checked and an announcement made immediately. If his DNA was checked and it was found that it was NOT his, the media would have remained silent like it did because that would have drawn more attention to these rapist, and since that announcement never came that it was his semen it clearly was not him she had sex with. The claims of other people and sex before doing a striptease was all a cover up. Also the anal sex claim...the vast majority of Black women DO NOT ENGAGE IN ANAL SEX...it is seen as VILE. Ask any Black women you know or whom are willing to talk on that level about sex and they will tell you they don't do that. White women however don't give a damn, anal, oral, vaginal its all good to them. so the claim of finding semen in her rectum draws high improbability from the time this initial claim was made...
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Re: Where's Reverand Al and Jesse now?
« Reply #30 on: February 18, 2010, 01:40:33 PM »
Its obvious that facts mean nothing.Im done.You lose,they were found innocent.That whore now will go to prison where she belongs.I hope she gets raped by prison guards everyday.Nifong is out of a job because HE covered up evidence AND admitted it.Your obviously an idiot.The three heros found innocent,now the filthy whore will be going to jail.You have proven yourself a liar and a moron.Now care to comment on this about her baby?I doubt it.


The alleged victim in the Duke rape case is expected to give birth in the first week of February, Durham County District Attorney Mike Nifong said in court today, adding that "the child was not the product of any activities'' from the night of the infamous Duke lacrosse team's party.

Nevertheless, attorneys for accused players Reade Seligmann, Collin Finnerty and David Evans, who took issue with the coincidental pregnancy's effect on their defense, sought and were granted permission from a judge to get a paternity test.

It has been more than nine months and three weeks since the March 14 party at which the woman said the three men raped her.

Meanwhile, the director of a private DNA lab testified that he and the district attorney agreed not to report information helpful to the defense team. He cited several different reasons, and acknowledged under cross-examination that he violated his own lab's standards.

Lab director Brian Meehan found genetic material from several men -- though none of them were Duke lacrosse players -- in samples taken from the body of the accuser the night she said she was allegedly gang-raped.

Meehan said he did not report the information out of concern for the lacrosse players' privacy, and later said he did not report the findings because he did not know the identity of the men whose DNA was found.

The pregnancy admission capped a week that saw defense attorneys file a series of damning motions in which they accused the prosecution's DNA lab of withholding vital information, argued that the photo line-up in which their clients were identified was fatally flawed, and insisted that Durham, N.C., has been so "torn apart'' by the case that the three defendants cannot get a fair trial.

The alleged victim's pregnancy came to light today as the three defendants and their parents went to court for a hearing on defense charges that the lab that tested DNA for the district attorney's office withheld information that could be favorable to the defense.


HMMMMM,The Duke kids DEMANDED a paternity test.Seems a bit different from the lies you told.Once again,the whore is going to jail,the three INNOCENT white kids will go on to make big money.THATS JUSTICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: Where's Reverand Al and Jesse now?
« Reply #31 on: February 18, 2010, 01:41:21 PM »
the kids had ZERO scars or marks on them.Another lie you cant back up.

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Re: Where's Reverand Al and Jesse now?
« Reply #32 on: February 18, 2010, 01:42:33 PM »
the kids had ZERO scars or marks on them.Another lie you cant back up.

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Re: Where's Reverand Al and Jesse now?
« Reply #33 on: February 18, 2010, 01:48:12 PM »
Following the advice of lawyers, the team members entered the lab with jackets over their faces to hide from a news photographer--only to be photographed inside by investigators, who pawed and stared at any scratch or bruise on their shirtless torsos.

"There's some scarring right here," said the woman scanning Carroll's side. She was looking at three 12-year-old marks from chicken pox. After opening wide for the DNA swab, Carroll and at least three other players heard the same refrain from an officer as they departed. "Don't worry, guys," he said. "This will all blow over."

It didn't. The five players named Bret, Adam or Matt found themselves subjects of an Internet-fueled flurry of speculation, their last names and addresses out for the world to see. A warning about drive-by revenge shootings on campus made the rounds. "I don't think any of us slept or ate much for a month," Zash says. He spent the next week living out of his car and staying on friends' couches before checking into a hotel. His parents came down two weeks later to lend support, but in a lawyer's office his mother, Nina, broke down sobbing, fighting for breath, unable to stand. "You feel like you're drowning, and you just want it to stop," she says. "But it wasn't stopping. It was getting worse and worse."

For the families the storm reached peak intensity over Easter, when players scattered to homes along the Washington-- New York corridor. Each day, to prepare, Nina Zash spoke the words out loud: Matthew's probably going to be arrested. She and her husband, Richard, would sit and watch each other's eyes f


NEXT!!!!!!!I have destroyed you here.You cant produce ONE article backing up ANY claim you make.I can produce a thousand.Nifong is out of a job!!!!Why?Because he made this whole thing up,no evidence at all.NONE!!!Give up,you lost.

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Re: Where's Reverand Al and Jesse now?
« Reply #34 on: February 18, 2010, 01:50:51 PM »
 
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Its obvious that facts mean nothing.Im done.You lose,they were found innocent.That whore now will go to prison where she belongs.I hope she gets raped by prison guards everyday.Nifong is out of a job because HE covered up evidence AND admitted it.Your obviously an idiot.The three heros found innocent,now the filthy whore will be going to jail.You have proven yourself a liar and a moron.Now care to comment on this about her baby?I doubt it.

And lies mean everything to you...cover up at all costs, slander the victim and parade the perpetrators around like heros...you're a sick bastard. Like I said you speak like you have intimate inside knowledge...if so report to your local police station or media and tell them what really happen...


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Re: Where's Reverand Al and Jesse now?
« Reply #35 on: February 18, 2010, 01:57:04 PM »

And lies mean everything to you...cover up at all costs, slander the victim and parade the perpetrators around like heros...you're a sick bastard. Like I said you speak like you have intimate inside knowledge...if so report to your local police station or media and tell them what really happen...




Again,please show me ANY facts backing up ANYTHING you have said.You know why you cant?Because there arent any facts to back up anything you have said.Even the other girl said "UNDER OATH" there was no rape!!!But,you keep believing what you want,just know I will be giggling every night that that filthy whore is behind bars.Hopefully her nappy headed kid goes to someone with some sense in their head.

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Re: Where's Reverand Al and Jesse now?
« Reply #36 on: February 18, 2010, 05:06:31 PM »
Are you a dunce?This lying whore made up the story.ZERO let me repeat that for you ZERO DNA evidence in her or at the scene of the crime.ZERO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!She had a baby nine months later?hMMM,THATS FUNNY,SHE ALSO HAD 7 OTHERS dna IN HER FILTHY STINKING BLACK HOLE FROM THAT NIGHT, NONE were the Duke Kids.Do you fucking get that?Do you comprehend that?This was a lie from start to end by a filthy black guy who went on the internet and picked the kids with the three biggest houses.By the way the judge even said they were completely innocent!!!!!!

I hope they grab her,string a rope around her neck and stretch her from a tree.Lying filthy whores making up race cases deserve death.Her the idiot that accused Michael Irvin,the girl that made up the story about Mike Tyson ALL deserve death!!!!!

What about Susan Smith, the woman who not only made up a case, but murdered her own children in the process.
Do you feel the same way about her, ...or do you reserve lynching punishments only for black people?
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Re: Where's Reverand Al and Jesse now?
« Reply #37 on: February 18, 2010, 05:31:17 PM »
What about Susan Smith, the woman who not only made up a case, but murdered her own children in the process.
Do you feel the same way about her, ...or do you reserve lynching punishments only for black people?


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Re: Where's Reverand Al and Jesse now?
« Reply #38 on: February 18, 2010, 05:36:33 PM »
man..i didn't mean this thread to turn into this shit...wtf..
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Re: Where's Reverand Al and Jesse now?
« Reply #39 on: February 18, 2010, 06:49:50 PM »
What about Susan Smith, the woman who not only made up a case, but murdered her own children in the process.
Do you feel the same way about her, ...or do you reserve lynching punishments only for black people?


Everybody here knows Billy's strong stance against killing children.  What are you trying to accomplish?

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Re: Where's Reverand Al and Jesse now?
« Reply #40 on: February 18, 2010, 07:51:56 PM »
What about Susan Smith, the woman who not only made up a case, but murdered her own children in the process.
Do you feel the same way about her, ...or do you reserve lynching punishments only for black people?

What about the Brawly case or Freddies?

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Re: Where's Reverand Al and Jesse now?
« Reply #41 on: February 18, 2010, 09:48:47 PM »
Again,please show me ANY facts backing up ANYTHING you have said.You know why you cant?Because there arent any facts to back up anything you have said.Even the other girl said "UNDER OATH" there was no rape!!!But,you keep believing what you want,just know I will be giggling every night that that filthy whore is behind bars.Hopefully her nappy headed kid goes to someone with some sense in their head.

The only thing you presented as "evidence" is a ranting mouth full of foolishness. You have a BROMANCE with these rapist clearly for white reasons surely, without the least bit of knowledge about their character, up bringing, mindset etc you have already exposed yourself as some little racist DEVIL with a mountain of personal, social, racial, psychological issues...especially against women (closet homo or what?). Your so called evidence was news paper clippings made up well after the case. I can produce plenty of newspaper clippings saying america is doing financially great, there is no down turn, recession is over, america has turned the corner yadda yadda yadda...would you believe it? Your imbecilic at best by not realizing what happened in this case: evidence falsified, changed scenarios, threat against witnesses, media complicintcy, evidence withheld etc, and what happens with whites in regards to committing crimes especially against Blacks in america. In most cases white walk while the guilt of their crimes drips from their hands. Even in cases with whites killing whites the one with the most money WALKS!!!..their is no justice in america.

These three rapist walked because they had the money, and the status of having parents who are alumni at Duke only helped their case. So far as any other person supposedly saying rape did not happen, gee lemme see how many people died, became mysteriously sick, went silent or flat out denied knowing anything about the Tillman MURDER in Iraq, the World trade Collapse and those who were whistle blowers at companies such as Enron and the Wall Street Financials?. You have failed across the board with this one and once again as I said in posts past...the callous disregard for life, safety, concern, human life in america is astounding. This board is a microcosm of the macrocosm that is america and even here the blatant I DON'T CARE, WTF attitude is unbelievable. I will just say that you all hold you cup of comeuppance in your hands and at some point sooner or later you will HAVE to drink... I want to see you face and hear your comments when you are on the receiving end of lies, distortions, crime, theft etc. Let me see you whine about injustice while the masses laugh and ridicule you. Given all that is happening in the world today it is only a snap away from happening to any and all of you. As the Bible says "DO UNTO OTHERS AS YOU WOULD HAVE THEM DO UNTO YOU"...in short do and speak and deal well with others so they will do it for you. Do wickedly, speak foully, deal treacherously with others and surely the same will be done to you...
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Re: Where's Reverand Al and Jesse now?
« Reply #42 on: February 18, 2010, 09:58:01 PM »
What about the Brawly case or Freddies?

Don't be foolish 3...you're one of the main complainers on this board about police brutality and now you're playing devils advocate? Tawanna Brawley is another example of this exact same case except the crime against her was committed by three white cops. Rape, torture and then denial. That woman was found tied up inside of a giant garbage bag and covered wit feces. How the hell can a person tie themselves up inside a bag...IT IS IMPOSSIBLE lets not even get into the fact that NO ONE WILL EVER COVER THEMSELVES WITH FECES. Yet the MSM, white run press, news media, mayor and Governor all worked together to slander this young woman (I believe she was 13 at the time) to make her the perpetrator and the white cops the victims. All of that babying (heroing) of the police has now come back to haunt you all in New York (and pretty much teh restof america), because now the cops (pretty much all the white cops) have free reign to bash your skulls in, shoot you dead, confiscate your possessions, ransack your homes, defile your rights, threaten victims/witnesses, change facts, distort truth, plant evidence and not one of you can do a thing about it. You have created your own Frankenstein Monster now and guess what he is on a killing rampage and you can not stop it.
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Re: Where's Reverand Al and Jesse now?
« Reply #43 on: February 19, 2010, 01:30:08 PM »
The only thing you presented as "evidence" is a ranting mouth full of foolishness. You have a BROMANCE with these rapist clearly for white reasons surely, without the least bit of knowledge about their character, up bringing, mindset etc you have already exposed yourself as some little racist DEVIL with a mountain of personal, social, racial, psychological issues...especially against women (closet homo or what?). Your so called evidence was news paper clippings made up well after the case. I can produce plenty of newspaper clippings saying america is doing financially great, there is no down turn, recession is over, america has turned the corner yadda yadda yadda...would you believe it? Your imbecilic at best by not realizing what happened in this case: evidence falsified, changed scenarios, threat against witnesses, media complicintcy, evidence withheld etc, and what happens with whites in regards to committing crimes especially against Blacks in america. In most cases white walk while the guilt of their crimes drips from their hands. Even in cases with whites killing whites the one with the most money WALKS!!!..their is no justice in america.

These three rapist walked because they had the money, and the status of having parents who are alumni at Duke only helped their case. So far as any other person supposedly saying rape did not happen, gee lemme see how many people died, became mysteriously sick, went silent or flat out denied knowing anything about the Tillman MURDER in Iraq, the World trade Collapse and those who were whistle blowers at companies such as Enron and the Wall Street Financials?. You have failed across the board with this one and once again as I said in posts past...the callous disregard for life, safety, concern, human life in america is astounding. This board is a microcosm of the macrocosm that is america and even here the blatant I DON'T CARE, WTF attitude is unbelievable. I will just say that you all hold you cup of comeuppance in your hands and at some point sooner or later you will HAVE to drink... I want to see you face and hear your comments when you are on the receiving end of lies, distortions, crime, theft etc. Let me see you whine about injustice while the masses laugh and ridicule you. Given all that is happening in the world today it is only a snap away from happening to any and all of you. As the Bible says "DO UNTO OTHERS AS YOU WOULD HAVE THEM DO UNTO YOU"...in short do and speak and deal well with others so they will do it for you. Do wickedly, speak foully, deal treacherously with others and surely the same will be done to you...

Let me see if I have this straight.They had money so they walked.Really?Did they have more money then the state of NC?Did they have more access to money then the states justice department,the FBI the crime lab?You are a fool.

If this was a case about blacks raping a white you would have a very different story as you have proven by damming Kobes women and not this women.Kobe DID actually have sex with her,his DNA was there in her.There was 100 times more evidence in his case then this case.However,your a typical anti white racist.Your a fucking stupid nig#er AND YES Id say that right to your fucking black face and if you even looked at me wrong Id snatch the life out your black ass.Im not hard to fiind .This Devil is easy to find.I can email you my adress and if you think your a big bad tough spook come on and jump and I will beat the black off you.I post with my name bitch.Come look me up and get your ass stomped .BITCH!!

IM THE WHITE DEVIL I CANT BE TAMED ,IM THE WHITE DEVIL AND I HAVE GONE INSANE!!!!
Anytime time guy.

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Re: Where's Reverand Al and Jesse now?
« Reply #44 on: February 19, 2010, 01:35:24 PM »
What about Susan Smith, the woman who not only made up a case, but murdered her own children in the process.
Do you feel the same way about her, ...or do you reserve lynching punishments only for black people?

She murdered her kids didnt she?ANYONE who commits murder should fry!!!Was Kobes accuser white or black?I CLEARLY said she should be strung up and hung as should ALL women who PURPOSELY try to ruin mens lives with an attempte to extort money and make up rape charges.

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Re: Where's Reverand Al and Jesse now?
« Reply #45 on: February 19, 2010, 01:39:29 PM »
Here is the ONLY reason the case went as far as it did....



This pile of shit was trying to get re-elected.  Durham is a predominantly black city and he did it purely for the votes.....but look how it turned out for him..hahah

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Re: Where's Reverand Al and Jesse now?
« Reply #46 on: February 19, 2010, 01:40:06 PM »
She murdered her kids didnt she?ANYONE who commits murder should fry!!!Was Kobes accuser white or black?I CLEARLY said she should be strung up and hung as should ALL women who PURPOSELY try to ruin mens lives with an attempte to extort money and make up rape charges.

YEAH..this shit is getting wild now...they can just say some shit and boom any man...white black young old can have his life ruined...

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Re: Where's Reverand Al and Jesse now?
« Reply #47 on: February 19, 2010, 02:06:42 PM »
YEAH..this shit is getting wild now...they can just say some shit and boom any man...white black young old can have his life ruined...

You know what pisses me off?Kobe was OBVIOUSLY innocent,but,tell the truth,everytime you see him dont you think of that?I mean the guy could drop 80pts and I always think about him being accused.It ruins peoples life.I was never a big Kobe fan[Im a Iverson and Carmelo fan]but the guy has been the best player in the sport for a number of years and still that crap hangs over his head.

An accusation is as damaging to your rep as a conviction.Something needs to be done about it.

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Re: Where's Reverand Al and Jesse now?
« Reply #48 on: February 19, 2010, 02:40:42 PM »

DURHAM, N.C. —  North Carolina police responding to a domestic violence call have arrested the woman who falsely accused three Duke University lacrosse players of rape.

WRAL-TV reported 33-year-old Crystal Gale Mangum was arrested late Wednesday on charges she assaulted her boyfriend.

Durham County jail records indicate Mangum is charged with attempted murder, arson, assault and battery, identity theft, communicating threats, damage to property, resisting an officer and child endangerment.

Durham police said they found Mangum and 33-year-old Milton Walker fighting. Police said Mangum went into a bathroom and set some clothes on fire in a bathtub.

Three children were in the house, but no one was hurt.

Mangum was in jail Thursday morning, with no attorney yet.

   

Dude, she is stripper...these things happen all the time with them. If you've dealt with them, you'll know that DV, etc. Being a stripper, and one in NC, is a hard life. And living a hard life, gives one a hard head, and hard head leads to a soft tail.

Big_Mal, Billy, think about male teachers and how these female students can SAY anything. And could be furtherest from the truth. And if you teach in a rich area, and the high school girls are faster than a Ferrari. Watch out.

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Re: Where's Reverand Al and Jesse now?
« Reply #49 on: February 19, 2010, 02:46:29 PM »
You know what pisses me off?Kobe was OBVIOUSLY innocent,but,tell the truth,everytime you see him dont you think of that?I mean the guy could drop 80pts and I always think about him being accused.It ruins peoples life.I was never a big Kobe fan[Im a Iverson and Carmelo fan]but the guy has been the best player in the sport for a number of years and still that crap hangs over his head.

An accusation is as damaging to your rep as a conviction.Something needs to be done about it.


yeah man..this is some bull crap...as soon as you are accused...people like Nancy Fucking Grace will start puttin shit together and inferring shit...and boom youre tainted..

Check it out...If one of the boys put "i played lacrosse for Duke" on his resume..what is he first thing he will hear from an employer..."woah..were you part of that thing that went down with the sripper"

then boom its a different story at that point