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The Long-Term Employment Bust
Feb 18, 2010
David P. Goldman

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High levels of unemployment may last indefinitely. A number of economists (including this writer) have been warning about permanent joblessness, and the idea is now seeping into popular magazines.

More than 8 million American jobs were lost since 2007, based on the most recent revision of the overall job count of U.S. establishments. But that is not the worst of it, because the establishment survey fails to capture smaller businesses and the self-employed. By the Bureau of Labor Statistics’ broadest measure of unemployment, including the forced part-time workers and so-called discouraged workers, the unemployment rate rose to 17 percent from 8 percent before the recession. That is 9 percentage points, corresponding to slightly over 12 million adults. A website called Shadow Government Statistics includes “long-term discouraged” workers defined out of the labor force by the BLS, but that alternative measure has tracked the BLS broad measure quite closely in the past few years.

There are several reasons to believe that most of these jobs never will come back. That is a less contentious statement than it might appear, because the jobs lost in the recessions since 1981 never came back. Some sectors, notably manufacturing, continued to shrink, and other sectors, such as heath care and retail, replaced them. The difference in 2010 is that it is not apparent where new jobs will come from.

There was no recovery in manufacturing jobs after the last recession, for instance. The total fell from 17.263 million in 2000 to 16.441 in 2001—and continued to fall every year through 2009.

Manufacturing Employment, 1998–2009 (1000’s)

At just 12 million, manufacturing employment is such a small portion of the 138 million employed Americans that any likely change would have a negligible impact on overall employment levels.

What replaced the lost manufacturing jobs? The sectors showing the largest increase in employment since 1993 (the end of the “employment recession” of the early 1990s) are shown in the table below, along with the change in employment since 2007:

The largest contributor to employment growth turns out to be professional services. This includes everything from real estate to accounting to law. We observe that construction gained about as many jobs (2.851 million) between 1993 and 2007 as manufacturing lost (2.895 million)—if off-the-books labor were counted, the number would be much higher. The “professional services” category was buoyed by the real-estate boom. That is why it lost almost as many jobs (1.155 million) as construction (1.396 million) after 2007.

In fact, of the sectors contributing most to employment growth during the long employment boom of 1993–2007, only education, health, and government (which partially overlap) sustained employment increases between 2007 and 2009. It is reasonable to expect that the aging U.S. population will require more health services going forward, but hiring is likely to be incremental at best. Government spending under the Obama stimulus plan helped postpone layoffs at the state and local level, but is unlikely to create many new jobs.

The construction boom is over for a generation or more. Residential housing is vastly overbuilt. As I wrote earlier this year:

In 1973, the United States had 36 million housing units with three or more bedrooms, not many more than the number of two-parent families with children—which means that the supply of family homes was roughly in line with the number of families. By 2005, the number of housing units with three or more bedrooms had doubled to 72 million, though America had the same number of two-parent families with children.

From other cross-sections of the data we see that the job losses have hit hardest the blue-collar working class, but also they've hit the upwardly mobile with some college training:

Workers with a B.A. degree or greater show a relatively low unemployment rate, although these numbers do not take into account long-term unemployed.

Given the inability of manufacturing industry to absorb many workers, and the poor likelihood that construction will do so, it is not clear where, or if ever, a large part of the American blue-collar labor force will work again. The semi-trained white collar labor force with an associate degree or a couple of years of college found ready work in the services expansion associated with the real-estate boom, but it is not clear what will happen to them now.

In previous recoveries, virtually all net new job creation came from new businesses. Most new businesses, to be sure, are small businesses, although the ones that created the most jobs were startups that grew very quickly. The most common estimate is that new business accounts for about two-thirds of net job creation.

During the 1980s, cellular phones, cable television, and other new technologies were an important source of new job growth. During the 1990s, the tech boom funded tens of thousands of startups, and, during the 2000s, the real-estate boom. Every deadbeat could get a job in the 1980s installing cable televisions, and every starving artist became a real-estate agent during the 2000s.

For the past fifteen years, the American economy has been geared to invest inflows of foreign capital in the household balance sheet, using the proceeds to import goods from the countries who lent us the money. That came to a bad end in 2007. All the employment associated with investing foreign savings and spending the proceeds—real-estate sales, mortgage banking, retail trade, and so forth—is no longer required. With a rapidly aging population, America will see less residential investment and more savings. America should be investing in high-value-added manufacturing and exporting. That would help America’s balance sheet, but it won’t do much for aging, semi-skilled workers who are too old to learn a completely new trade. Nor, as noted, will manufacturing in the best of cases create many new jobs.

There is some analogy to the Great Depression in the present situation. Between 1918 and 1939, American agriculture was in permanent decline, because the end of the First World War reduced demand for American exports, and because the substitution of the tractor for draught animals freed up an enormous amount of land set aside for animal feed. There was nothing to be done but to get the farmers off the land into other occupations, and that was not accomplished until the Second World War.

Americans, in short, have grown old in bad habits, and there is no way to avoid substantial and prolonged pain. The proposals that Reuven Brenner and I have offered in recent issues of First Things—a shift in the tax system to place the burden on consumption while exempting investment income—will help in the medium term, but certainly will not help some labor-intensive service industries (e.g., gaming) in the short run.

The temptation will be to emulate Britain after World War II, that is, to have the government provide jobs. If we do that, we will end up looking like Britain: permanently unemployed and permanently economically irrelevant. The difficulty is that no economic policy can prevent a very painful adjustment.

David P. Goldman is senior editor of First Things
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Great damn article. 

This is 100% correct. 

Can anyone tell me where employment will come from? 

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Re: Unemployment to remain high in the USA for many years, get used to it.
« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2010, 01:59:24 PM »
Impossible!!!The stimulus is working great!!!This is a right wing lie!!!!Maybe we can get Samson to investigate as he is into consiracy theories.

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« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2010, 02:06:23 PM »
Its the cold hard fact. 

with insane spending and taxing we are not really inviting foregin investment and we are absolutely ruining domestic business as well. 

The stimulus was a huge disaster for many reasons, I said it from day 1. 

for every govt job it propped up, it destroyed a private sector job.   

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« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2010, 02:11:10 PM »
Its the cold hard fact. 

with insane spending and taxing we are not really inviting foregin investment and we are absolutely ruining domestic business as well. 

The stimulus was a huge disaster for many reasons, I said it from day 1. 

for every govt job it propped up, it destroyed a private sector job.   

HOW DARE YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I saw Obama and plugs Biden on tv yesterday saying it was fantastic,it saved the economy,saved us from a total colapse,saved us from a depression.Are you saying they arent being truthfull?Say it aint so.

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Re: Unemployment to remain high in the USA for many years, get used to it.
« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2010, 02:20:01 PM »
HOW DARE YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I saw Obama and plugs Biden on tv yesterday saying it was fantastic,it saved the economy,saved us from a total colapse,saved us from a depression.Are you saying they arent being truthfull?Say it aint so.

It did save the economy - for the government employees who are mostly overpaid, underworked, and are costing localities and states a fortune. 

However, they are equally destryoing the private sector businesses. 

I explained why to KC at length but it was above his comprehension.  All this govt borrowing and spending crowds out private sector borrowing, expansion, etc. 

I have never seen it this bad and it is getting far worse not better for small - mid-sized businesses.  I have never seen as many foreclosures in NYC of commercial properties and developments than are occuring now. 

I was in court today on a foreclosure action of a construction project and people dont realize how bad things get when one developer goes under cause of bank lending drying up. 

The GC does not get paid, the subs dont get paid, the suppliers dont get paid, the union doesnt get paid, the property taxes dont get paid.  Etc.   Its a complete downward spiral. 

I dont see it changing any time soon.       

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Re: Unemployment to remain high in the USA for many years, get used to it.
« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2010, 02:34:25 PM »
Unless some people can come up with some really wonderful products, manufactured in america, that the whole world would want, there is no way manufacturing will return to america. Manufacturing is the foundation of EVERY country...without it you have nothing. With tis non manufacturing scenario americas UE will not only remain...it will continue to increase. At some point the balloon will pop and a civil disorder will break out to end all civil wars.
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Re: Unemployment to remain high in the USA for many years, get used to it.
« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2010, 05:56:24 PM »
Wait....I thought the Stimulus Bill was supposed to keep us from having "high" U.E. and then "jump start" the economy and get us back to health with millions of green jobs and  such! Have the govt. spend tons of tax money and borrowed money to keep our economy "afloat" until it gets humming again....

Someone forgot to tell those people that "Economic Stimulus" really doesn't work. You should also tell them that taking from the private sector and "giving" to the public sector doesn't work either. It is no small coincendence that federal hiring has far outpaced private sector hiring for the last few years....But now we have a "Jobs Bill" worth around 100 billion in the pipe that will save the nation! Just look to Japan to see the road we are on....even worse probably when you take into account the fact that at least Japan had a very high savings rate while our families were laden with debt with no savings.

No we are broke, almost had a busted Treasury auction last week, and according to Obamas "Deficit Reduction Task Force", all options including taxes on 250k and under families, is on the table.

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« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2010, 07:18:56 PM »
Great Article.

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Re: Unemployment to remain high in the USA for many years, get used to it.
« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2010, 07:20:35 PM »
HOW DARE YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I saw Obama and plugs Biden on tv yesterday saying it was fantastic,it saved the economy,saved us from a total colapse,saved us from a depression.Are you saying they arent being truthfull?Say it aint so.

Nice sarcasm (I hope)

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« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2010, 07:29:50 PM »
In 1973, the United States had 36 million housing units with three or more bedrooms, not many more than the number of two-parent families with children—which means that the supply of family homes was roughly in line with the number of families. By 2005, the number of housing units with three or more bedrooms had doubled to 72 million, though America had the same number of two-parent families with children.

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And the idiots in govt expect

1.  Housing to rebound? 

2.  Housing to drive growth?

3.  Home prices to incline in the future?   

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« Reply #10 on: February 18, 2010, 07:34:00 PM »
In 1973, the United States had 36 million housing units with three or more bedrooms, not many more than the number of two-parent families with children—which means that the supply of family homes was roughly in line with the number of families. By 2005, the number of housing units with three or more bedrooms had doubled to 72 million, though America had the same number of two-parent families with children.

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And the idiots in govt expect

1.  Housing to rebound? 

2.  Housing to drive growth?

3.  Home prices to incline in the future?   

Banks etc holding houses in a "shadow" inventory. Artificially keeping the market "tight"...or what goes for "tight" these days , anyway.

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« Reply #11 on: February 18, 2010, 07:36:03 PM »
Whats funny is everyone calls me a crank for my views and articles like this reinforce the fact that we are truly screwed with the direction we are taking, and especially the one we have been on for the last 30-40 years.