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Washington (CNN) -- The head of the National Black Farmers Association said Thursday the U.S. government has agreed to pay qualified farmers $50,000 each to settle claims of racial bias.
U.S. Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack said those farmers may also pursue a claim for actual damages from the bias, and potentially receive up to $250,000.

The settlement, which covers as many as 80,000 black farmers at a price of more than $1 billion, still needs to be funded by Congress, both sides acknowledged Thursday.

The 2010 farm bill, still pending in Congress, includes more than $1 billion to cover the compensation claims.
In a written statement Thursday, President Obama said his administration "is dedicated to ensuring that federal agencies treat all our citizens fairly, and the settlement in the Pigford case reflects that commitment."
The Pigford case was decided in favor of black farmers by a federal judge's ruling in 1999.
The head of the farmers group, John Boyd, said: "It's really the Department of Agriculture agreeing to pay, the Justice Department agreeing to pay and our lawyers agreeing to the process."

In a conference telephone call with reporters, Vilsack said racial bias unquestionably took place in his agency over many years.
He gave an example of two farmers, one white, one black, applying for a farm loan with an office of the USDA. The white farmer's application "was processed rapidly, it was approved, and resources were quickly available to enable him to put a crop in," Vilsack said. The application from the black farmer "was denied without due diligence on whether he had the capacity to repay, or else he or she was strung out over such a long period of time that they couldn't put in a crop," Vilsack said. The result, Vilsack said, was that "in some cases they lost the farm."

This month Boyd's group organized demonstrations throughout historically black agricultural areas of the South, including areas in Arkansas, Tennessee, Mississippi, Virginia, Alabama, South Carolina and Georgia.

The rallies wrapped up Monday as a small group of activists gathered outside the Agriculture Department in Washington. Boyd and other demonstrators expressed frustration that Congress has yet to approve a budget that would pay for the 1999 class action settlement in the case.

He described a two-track process in which black farmers could receive a flat $50,000 payout with minimal proof linking discrimination to the denial of federal farm support.


A more rigorous system of proof could establish actual damages and yield a potential payout up to $250,000, depending on how many other claimants also prove their cases to draw from the funding provided by Congress.

Boyd acknowledged "not everyone will qualify" for the payments.

"It's still a victory that their claims will be reviewed as a result of this agreement, which at least gives them a chance and keeps this out of courts, where no one gets any money," he said.

Vilsack, noting the farm bill is still awaiting approval, said he didn't think "anybody in Congress doubts there's a responsibility to settle." However, if no funding exists by the end of March, farmers can walk away from the agreement if they desire, he said.

Boyd said he will meet Friday with the staffs of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid to affirm that the agreement should be funded.


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I am completely opposed to this.  A class action suit where perhaps some black farmers were discriminated against with regards to obtaining a loan but the lawyers and leeches see a payout so they jump on board.  This is our tax dollars!  More abuse.  Past administrations didn't act on this payout but the Obama decision did.
Each case should be looked into.  We should NOT have a class action suit for 80,000 funded by all of us taxpayers.

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More looting of the treasury.

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Blame the judge shoot.  The govt is upholding the ruling.  If the ruling was made then it should be paid, simple as that.  I agree there should be more proof provided but discrimination can not be tolerated nor can it be ignored because the repercussions may cost money. 
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Blame the judge shoot.  The govt is upholding the ruling.  If the ruling was made then it should be paid, simple as that.  I agree there should be more proof provided but discrimination can not be tolerated nor can it be ignored because the repercussions may cost money. 

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Do you not care that we are broke beyond repair? 

Do you not care that they were proven in a court of law to have been discriminated against?  I don't care how broke we are as a country if it's ruled that discrimination occurred then it should be compensated.  To turn a blind eye to such a thing and claim money is the issue is beyond racist, it's choosing dollar bills over human's. 
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Do you not care that they were proven in a court of law to have been discriminated against?  I don't care how broke we are as a country if it's ruled that discrimination occurred then it should be compensated.  To turn a blind eye to such a thing and claim money is the issue is beyond racist, it's choosing dollar bills over human's. 

Unreal.  Did you even read the article?  People with ZERO proof are going to get paid here. 

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Unreal.  Did you even read the article?  People with ZERO proof are going to get paid here. 

Did you read what i said? i said that wasn't acceptable they need to provide proof of discrimination but you're arguing that no one should get a damn thing.  That is unreal.  You'd rather we as a society went back to the dark days of segregation if it meant a healthier GDP and more money in your pocket.
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I'm currently growing grass and many weeds in the back yard. Please post a link so I can get paid too!!

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Even though this is specific to a case of discrimination, the problem I have is less about race than the fact that this should not have been a class action suit that grants taxpayer money being given to 80,000 people, a small % who were victims of racism (assuming the judge made the right call).  We don't know the case but kc is right, the judge decided.  Assuming there was racism (and these people had the full qualifications needed to get a loan), we should look at each case individually.  You must prove racism played a significant role in not getting a government loan.

This opens up more doors for lawyers to sue over things like this and encourages people to ride the coat tails of others getting money.  This affects tax payers of all races, so everyone should take interest. 
80,000 people x $50,000 (minimum, may be $250,000) = 4 billion of our dollars!  Outrageous.

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Re: Controversial- Class action settlement to 80,000 in the black farmers union
« Reply #10 on: February 19, 2010, 11:06:46 AM »
...and if there were racist practices, how about the dept of agriculture is penalyzed more than the taxpayer.  Cut their salaries and budget to help with the compensation.  Or instead of such a large and widespread payout, give the people that were discriminated against a government backed loan if they still qualify and a smaller payment.  This payout to 80,000 is ridiculous.  So, every black farmer in this union gets a payout....

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Re: Controversial- Class action settlement to 80,000 in the black farmers union
« Reply #11 on: February 19, 2010, 12:32:28 PM »
...and if there were racist practices, how about the dept of agriculture is penalyzed more than the taxpayer.  Cut their salaries and budget to help with the compensation.  Or instead of such a large and widespread payout, give the people that were discriminated against a government backed loan if they still qualify and a smaller payment.  This payout to 80,000 is ridiculous.  So, every black farmer in this union gets a payout....

How about someone post a link so I can get paid?!!? >:(

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Re: Controversial- Class action settlement to 80,000 in the black farmers union
« Reply #12 on: February 19, 2010, 02:22:32 PM »
Did you read what i said? i said that wasn't acceptable they need to provide proof of discrimination but you're arguing that no one should get a damn thing.  That is unreal.  You'd rather we as a society went back to the dark days of segregation if it meant a healthier GDP and more money in your pocket.

What?  Like shoot said, they were people that didn't even have proof in a court of law but yet are getting paid!  Throw the whole case out...some should some shouldn't.  Just paying everybody makes no sense.

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Re: Controversial- Class action settlement to 80,000 in the black farmers union
« Reply #13 on: February 19, 2010, 03:36:40 PM »
How about someone post a link so I can get paid?!!? >:(

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Re: Controversial- Class action settlement to 80,000 in the black farmers union
« Reply #16 on: February 20, 2010, 08:05:16 PM »
Wasn't a joke.

That's what makes it so darned funny!  Do you think my houseplants could qualify me?
...or the Rapini in my backyard? ...or do you have to me uhMurcan?
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Re: Controversial- Class action settlement to 80,000 in the black farmers union
« Reply #17 on: February 20, 2010, 08:12:19 PM »
That's what makes it so darned funny!  Do you think my houseplants could qualify me?
...or the Rapini in my backyard? ...or do you have to me uhMurcan?

Girl what you know about broccolini?!

Besides..... it's not like those idiots are going to vet people before handing out the money. I should get paid, too!!

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Re: Controversial- Class action settlement to 80,000 in the black farmers union
« Reply #18 on: November 20, 2010, 07:59:16 AM »
Senate Approves $4.6 Billion for Claims by Black Farmers, American Indians
By James Rowley - Nov 20, 2010 12:01 AM ET



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 .The U.S. Senate yesterday approved spending $4.6 billion to settle two lawsuits: one by black farmers who alleged racial discrimination by government lenders and the other by 300,000 American Indians who said they had been cheated out of land royalties dating to 1887.

Passage of the measure, by voice vote, unblocks a legislative logjam that has thwarted payouts, negotiated by the Obama administration, of $1.15 billion to the black farmers and $3.4 billion to the American Indians.

“We are one step closer to ensuring that the black farmers and Native Americans in these suits are fully compensated for past failures of judgment by the government,” U.S. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, a California Democrat, said in a statement after the Senate vote. House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, a Maryland Democrat, said he hopes to seek a vote after Congress returns from a week-long recess on Nov. 29.

President Barack Obama praised the Senate action and urged the House to move forward with the bill “as they did last year.”

The House included the funding in war supplemental legislation it passed this summer, but it must vote on the settlements again. The Senate version of the war supplemental did not contain the funding to settle the lawsuits because Republicans objected to the proposed financing method, saying it added to the deficit.

At least seven times this year, Senate Republicans blocked efforts to include the spending provisions in pending legislation. Their objections prompted repeated complaints by Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, a Nevada Democrat, who said in an Aug. 5 statement that Republicans’ “petty political calculations” were “denying justice to these Americans.”

Yesterday, Reid said in a statement that justice “will finally be served.”

Discrimination Alleged

The farmers’ 1997 class-action lawsuit alleged discrimination by the Agriculture Department’s lending programs. Under a negotiated settlement announced in February, qualified farmers can collect as much as $50,000, plus debt relief. Others may collect monetary damages up to $250,000.

The Obama administration requested $1.15 billion in its 2010 budget, on top of $100 million that Congress approved in the 2008 farm bill to finance the settlement.

Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack said in a statement yesterday that the Senate’s “bold step” to finance the black farmers’ settlement “marks a major milestone in USDA’s efforts to turn the page on a sad chapter in our history.”

One of the largest class-action cases filed against the U.S., the 1996 lawsuit by American Indian plaintiffs accused the Interior Department of mismanaging trust funds that collected royalties for grazing rights and the extraction of minerals, oil and natural gas from tribal lands. Attorney General Eric Holder announced the settlement of that case last December.

“This is a day that will be etched in our memories and our history books,” Interior Secretary Ken Salazar said in a statement yesterday. The settlement “honorably and responsibly addresses long-standing injustices,” he said.

To contact the reporter on this story: James Rowley in Washington at jarowley@bloomberg.net.

To contact the editor responsible for this story: Mark Silva at msilva34@bloomberg.net


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The Obama administration requested $1.15 billion in its 2010 budget, on top of $100 million that Congress approved in the 2008 farm bill to finance the settlement.



So these traitors and thieves granted 4 billion on top of that?  guess where the money is gong? 


and you demos and progressive morons wonder why taxpayers want to KTFO pelosi, obama, reid, etc? 

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Re: Controversial- Class action settlement to 80,000 in the black farmers union
« Reply #19 on: November 20, 2010, 08:13:04 AM »
Option D
I hate the State.

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Re: Controversial- Class action settlement to 80,000 in the black farmers union
« Reply #20 on: November 20, 2010, 08:21:02 AM »
Option D

If I had that option, damn right I would take it. 

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Re: Controversial- Class action settlement to 80,000 in the black farmers union
« Reply #21 on: November 24, 2010, 05:09:58 AM »
Lawmakers Warn $1.2 Billion Payout to Black Farmers Rife With Fraud
Fox News ^ | 11-23-10 | Judson Berger


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A handful of Republican lawmakers is warning against Congress approving a massive discrimination settlement that passed the Senate last week despite concerns the claims process may have been marred by thousands of potentially fraudulent applications.

Just before breaking for Thanksgiving recess, the Senate approved by voice vote a $4.6 billion package to settle claims against the government by black farmers and American Indians. The payments to black farmers account for $1.2 billion of that amount but have been the subject of intense criticism.

Lawmakers raising alarm about the payments say whistleblowers from the Department of Agriculture have come to them in confidence to warn that the money is going to claimants who don't deserve it.


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Re: Controversial- Class action settlement to 80,000 in the black farmers union
« Reply #22 on: November 24, 2010, 06:47:03 AM »
Racism. Pure and simple. They didn't land on Plymouth Rock, Plymouth Rock landed on them. We owe every black American, regardless of their background, as much money as possible in perpituity for being black. It's the law.

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No More Taxpayer Money to Settle ‘Fraudulent’ Pigford II Claims, Republican Says
CNSNews ^ | 6/16/11 | Susan Jones


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(CNSNews.com) - A Republican lawmaker is trying to protect taxpayers from what he calls fraudulent racial discrimination claims filed against the government by black farmers.

Rep. Steve King (R-Iowa) on Wednesday filed an amendment to an Agriculture appropriations bill that would prevent any additional taxpayer money from being used to settle claims associated with the government's "fraud-plagued Pigford II program."

The money, King said, “is being used primarily to build political goodwill for the President.”

As CNSNews.com previously reported, the USDA allegedly discriminated against black farmers in dispensing federally funded farm loans between 1981 and 1996. In 1999, the federal government settled a class action suit brought against the government by black farmers. The case was dubbed “Pigford," after the name of the lead plaintiff.


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