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Senate passes Jobs Bill - Tax cuts for hiring unemployed workers
« on: February 24, 2010, 10:47:47 AM »
Companies that hire the unemployed would claim new tax breaks under a jobs-promoting bill the Senate passed Wednesday, delivering President Barack Obama and Democrats a much-needed victory.

The 70-28 vote sends the bill back to the House, which passed a far more costly measure in December. Many in the House consider the Senate bill too puny, but they may simply adopt it and send it to Obama in order to get a win. Democratic leaders promise more so-called jobs bills are on the way.

It's the first major bill to pass the Senate since the Christmas Eve passage of a deeply controversial health care bill and the subsequent election of Massachusetts Republican Scott Brown, which rocked Democrats by demonstrating their falling standing even among heavily Democratic voters.

The bill contain two major provisions. First, it would exempt businesses hiring the unemployed from the 6.2 percent Social Security payroll tax through December and give them an additional $1,000 credit if new workers stay on the job a full year. The Social Security trust funds would be reimbursed for the lost revenue.

Second, it would extend highway and mass transit programs through the end of the year and pump $20 billion into them in time for the spring construction season. The money would make up for lower-than-expected gasoline tax revenues.


The Senate's $35 billion proposal is a far smaller measure than the $862 billion economic stimulus bill enacted a year ago.

The measure cleared a key hurdle Monday when Brown and four other Republicans broke party ranks to defeat a filibuster. Republican leaders said Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., had used strong-arm tactics to bring the measure to the floor.

In all, 13 Republicans voted for the measure Wednesday. Sen. Ben Nelson of Nebraska was the only Democrat in opposition.

Sen. Judd Gregg of New Hampshire, top Republican on the Senate Budget Committee, blasted the measure for increasing the budget deficit to fund highway and transit programs. He said the measure made a joke of Democratic promises to adhere to "pay-as-you-go" budget rules requiring new spending programs to not increase the deficit.

"I don't think you get people back to work in this nation by loading more and more debt onto the next generation," Gregg said.

The new hiring tax credit could spur about 250,000 new jobs, according to economist Mark Zandi of Moody's Economy.com. The economy has shed 8.4 million jobs since the recession began in December, 2007.

Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y., a sponsor of the hiring tax break, said it would have an immediate impact since businesses won't have to apply for it when doing their taxes a year from now.

"It immediately takes effect," Schumer said. "It goes right to small businesses."

In addition to the hiring tax incentives and highway funding, the bill would extend a tax break for small businesses buying new equipment and modestly expand an initiative that helps state and local governments pay for infrastructure projects.

Republicans and some Democrats were unhappy that Reid brought the jobs bill to the floor after abruptly dumping about $70 billion worth of tax breaks for businesses and individuals, help for the unemployed and additional Medicare payments to doctors that had been introduced by Sens. Max Baucus, D-Mont., and Charles Grassley, R-Iowa, the chairman and senior Republican on the Finance Committee.

Most, if not all, of those ideas are expected to return in subsequent legislation.

"We're just getting started," said Baucus. "Our goal is to make sure that get bills passed that help people get more jobs. That's what they want."

Before lawmakers can pass more jobs legislation, the Senate will have to first approve a stopgap measure to continue the help for the unemployed doctors in the Medicare program that Reid had dropped from the earlier jobs legislation. The help currently expires on Feb. 28.

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Re: Senate passes Jobs Bill - Tax cuts for hiring unemployed workers
« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2010, 10:57:07 AM »
I must admit i do agree that this bill needed to be larger but it's a start. 
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Re: Senate passes Jobs Bill - Tax cuts for hiring unemployed workers
« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2010, 10:58:51 AM »
I must admit i do agree that this bill needed to be larger but it's a start. 

I agree, its a start.  I dont know why people are screaming at Brown over this. 

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Re: Senate passes Jobs Bill - Tax cuts for hiring unemployed workers
« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2010, 10:59:42 AM »
I must admit i do agree that this bill needed to be larger but it's a start. 
you mean like the 1 trillion dollar federal stimulus?  ::)

why wasnt this included in that?

what happend to the shovel ready projects?

havent we heard all this BS before?

forgive me but from now on the govt should have to prove it will make a difference before voting on it, they are guilty until proven innocent in my eyes

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Re: Senate passes Jobs Bill - Tax cuts for hiring unemployed workers
« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2010, 11:01:27 AM »
This bill was really nothing in the scheme of things, but at least it gets the dialogue going in the right direction. 


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Re: Senate passes Jobs Bill - Tax cuts for hiring unemployed workers
« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2010, 11:02:54 AM »
I agree, its a start.  I dont know why people are screaming at Brown over this. 

Screaming at him in what way - negatively?  I just wish they kept the 70 billion worth of tax breaks but hope fully those can be restructured into a new bill soon.  
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Re: Senate passes Jobs Bill - Tax cuts for hiring unemployed workers
« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2010, 11:19:06 AM »

This bill was really nothing in the scheme of things, but at least it gets the dialogue going in the right direction. 



Finally, a reasonable answer from 333's. Good to see.  :D :D :D

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Re: Senate passes Jobs Bill - Tax cuts for hiring unemployed workers
« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2010, 11:23:16 AM »
Finally, a reasonable answer from 333's. Good to see.  :D :D :D

When have I ever been unreasonable?  Can you give a specific example?   

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Re: Senate passes Jobs Bill - Tax cuts for hiring unemployed workers
« Reply #8 on: February 24, 2010, 11:23:55 AM »
Holy shit politicians in DC throwing money at a problem, what a surprise. When 862 Billion just doesn't get the job done, throw more money at it :o
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Re: Senate passes Jobs Bill - Tax cuts for hiring unemployed workers
« Reply #9 on: February 24, 2010, 11:30:19 AM »
Holy shit politicians in DC throwing money at a problem, what a surprise. When 862 Billion just doesn't get the job done, throw more money at it :o

Like, I said, this bill is mostly a joke.  However, if we can get the debate on the terms of tax cuts, spending cuts, etc, at least its on those terms instead of new govt programs, etc which are horrible.   




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Re: Senate passes Jobs Bill - Tax cuts for hiring unemployed workers
« Reply #10 on: February 24, 2010, 11:39:43 AM »
Like, I said, this bill is mostly a joke.  However, if we can get the debate on the terms of tax cuts, spending cuts, etc, at least its on those terms instead of new govt programs, etc which are horrible.   





Seems to me everyone except the pricks on DC have been debating this for over a year, this is a political move for re-election time, now they can say see we voted for a jobs bill. More political BS, they average person will just accept and think, WOW they really care in Washington about the little guy ::)
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Re: Senate passes Jobs Bill - Tax cuts for hiring unemployed workers
« Reply #11 on: February 24, 2010, 11:41:45 AM »
Seems to me everyone except the pricks on DC have been debating this for over a year, this is a political move for re-election time, now they can say see we voted for a jobs bill. More political BS, they average person will just accept and think, WOW they really care in Washington about the little guy ::)

Of course Kazan, the whole thing is a freaking joke. 

The spend TRILLIONS on the gangsters on wall street to no positive effect, yet think 15 billion will result in jobs.   Incredible. 

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Re: Senate passes Jobs Bill - Tax cuts for hiring unemployed workers
« Reply #12 on: February 24, 2010, 12:01:02 PM »
So wait one post says your think it's okay then when one of your buddies comes in you think it's all trash?  333 you're really transparent.
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Re: Senate passes Jobs Bill - Tax cuts for hiring unemployed workers
« Reply #13 on: February 24, 2010, 12:02:58 PM »
This bill SUCKS!!!!Tax credits for hiring new workers.3,000 dollars?Wow,lets see,I hire a guy at 25,000 a year,have to pay benefits,pay to get him trained etc and I get a whole 3,000 dollars back.Yeah thats worth it.Another government butt fuck!!!!!!

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Re: Senate passes Jobs Bill - Tax cuts for hiring unemployed workers
« Reply #14 on: February 24, 2010, 12:04:00 PM »
So wait one post says your think it's okay then when one of your buddies comes in you think it's all trash?  333 you're really transparent.

I think this bill is a show piece at best, will do nothing, but is nothing in the overal scheme of things.  It wont hire people but it wont crash the economy either. 


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Re: Senate passes Jobs Bill - Tax cuts for hiring unemployed workers
« Reply #15 on: February 24, 2010, 05:28:54 PM »
So the original stimulus worked so swell that we need another one?

What if the demand isn't there for businesses to hire more employee's?

Why do we need this?

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Re: Senate passes Jobs Bill - Tax cuts for hiring unemployed workers
« Reply #16 on: February 24, 2010, 05:34:15 PM »
So the original stimulus worked so swell that we need another one?

What if the demand isn't there for businesses to hire more employee's?

Why do we need this?

Its called the "Barack Obama needs to get something signed" Act of 2010.