State Department lifts ban on exports of night-vision goggles

[Kazan]

Another in a long line of great idea's by they State Dept


By Nicholas Kralev and Bill Gertz THE WASHINGTON TIMES

The State Department has lifted a ban on exports of night-vision equipment that was imposed in 2007 on a U.S. company caught selling sensitive defense articles to China and other countries without a license.

Meanwhile, two key U.S. senators on Tuesday wrote to Gen. James L. Jones, the White House national security adviser, warning that the Obama administration's plan to loosen controls on exports of sensitive goods and technology could undermine national security.


http://washingtontimes.com/news/2010/feb/24/state-lifts-ban-on-exports-of-night-vision-goggles/

[Soul Crusher]

Another in a long line of great idea's by they State Dept


By Nicholas Kralev and Bill Gertz THE WASHINGTON TIMES

The State Department has lifted a ban on exports of night-vision equipment that was imposed in 2007 on a U.S. company caught selling sensitive defense articles to China and other countries without a license.

Meanwhile, two key U.S. senators on Tuesday wrote to Gen. James L. Jones, the White House national security adviser, warning that the Obama administration's plan to loosen controls on exports of sensitive goods and technology could undermine national security.


http://washingtontimes.com/news/2010/feb/24/state-lifts-ban-on-exports-of-night-vision-goggles/

Is this how obama plans on doubling exports in 5 years? 

Maybe we sell these to Iran, the Taliban, NK, and the Tamil tigers. 

[kcballer]

Oh no night vision goggles!

[Kazan]

Is this how obama plans on doubling exports in 5 years? 

Maybe we sell these to Iran, the Taliban, NK, and the Tamil tigers. 

Yeah gotta make sure that the battlefield is fair

[Kazan]

Oh no night vision goggles!

You wouldn't be saying that if you were in the military, oh no lets take away one of our tactical advantages in war, brilliant fucking idea

[kcballer]

hahaha yes because no other country has the technology to produce night vision goggles. 

[Soul Crusher]

hahaha yes because no other country has the technology to produce night vision goggles. 

KC - are you ok if the teabaggers bought all of these up? 

[kcballer]

just a list of companies and countries that produce night vision devices

    * Aiptek Taiwan
    * American Technologies Network Corporation USA
    * ASELSAN Turkey
    * BEL Optronic Devices Limited INDIA
    * Bushnell Corporation USA
    * EG&G USA
    * Hensoldt Germany
    * Iran Electronics Industries Iran
    * LOMO USSR / Russia
    * ITT Corporation USA
    * Kongsberg Gruppen Norway
    * Raytheon USA
    * SELEX Galileo Italy
    * Swarovski Optik Austria
    * Thales Group France
    * TRANSVARO Turkey

[Kazan]

hahaha yes because no other country has the technology to produce night vision goggles. 

Why do you think the ban was put in, in the first place? Maybe because the other guys didn't have the technology, and some dumbass company was selling it without proper licensing. Of course you would have to read the article to know that.

[Kazan]

just a list of companies and countries that produce night vision devices

    * Aiptek Taiwan
    * American Technologies Network Corporation USA
    * ASELSAN Turkey
    * BEL Optronic Devices Limited INDIA
    * Bushnell Corporation USA
    * EG&G USA
    * Hensoldt Germany
    * Iran Electronics Industries Iran
    * LOMO USSR / Russia
    * ITT Corporation USA
    * Kongsberg Gruppen Norway
    * Raytheon USA
    * SELEX Galileo Italy
    * Swarovski Optik Austria
    * Thales Group France
    * TRANSVARO Turkey

So what? Does this prove something?

[The Luke]

You can buy nightvision goggles in any electronics store in Europe, Asia, Africa, Australia, Russia or the Middle East... and have been able to do so since the mid-nineties.

So what are you Palin-voters upset about now...?


Seriously, sometimes I cringe at the chronic debilitating level of ignorance on this board.



The Luke

[Soul Crusher]

You can buy nightvision goggles in any electronics store in Europe, Asia, Africa, Australia, Russia or the Middle East... and have been able to do so since the mid-nineties.

So what are you Palin-voters upset about now...?


Seriously, sometimes I cringe at the chronic debilitating level of ignorance on this board.



The Luke

Luke - are you in the mood for a good ole fashion beat down again? 

[The Luke]

Luke - are you in the mood for a good ole fashion beat down again? 

...enlighten me?

I don't understand what you guys are whinging about.


The Luke

[Soul Crusher]

...enlighten me?

I don't understand what you guys are whinging about.


The Luke

I was kidding.  I'm not complaining about this, its probably some makers of these things giving a few bribes and looking to expand their market share overseas since business sucks here. 

I'm feeling cynical lately, so that was my first thought.    

[The Luke]

I was kidding.  I'm not complaining about this, its probably some makers of these things giving a few bribes and looking to expand their market share overseas since business sucks here. 

I'm feeling cynical lately, so that was my first thought.    

So anything you misunderstand you interpret as a failing of the Obama administration... then if someone calls you on it, you simply cave in and retract your rantings...?


The Luke

[Soul Crusher]

So anything you misunderstand you interpret as a failing of the Obama administration... then if someone calls you on it, you simply cave in and retract your rantings...?


The Luke

Can you show me where I said this was an obama failing?

He is failing in so many other areas, I dont need this thing to make an example of the utter ctastrophe this admn is on so many levels. 

[The Luke]

Can you show me where I said this was an obama failing?

...eh, okay:

Another in a long line of great idea's by they State Dept

Is this how obama plans on doubling exports in 5 years? 

...if you're doing this silly reactionary rant without even ralising it, maybe it's time to talk to someone.


The Luke

[Soul Crusher]

...eh, okay:
...if you're doing this silly reactionary rant without even ralising it, maybe it's time to talk to someone.


The Luke

I asked a question you midget.  Are you inferring from my question that I secretly was trying to call that an obama failure? 

[The Luke]

I asked a question you midget.  Are you inferring from my question that I secretly was trying to call that an obama failure? 

How could I infer anything when you aren't even sure what you implied.

Maybe just go back to being horrified that your government lifted a trade restriction fifteen years too late, that was ineffectual to begin with.


The Luke 

[Soul Crusher]

How could I infer anything when you aren't even sure what you implied.

Maybe just go back to being horrified that your government lifted a trade restriction fifteen years too late, that was ineffectual to begin with.


The Luke 

Read your posts fool.  Are you drinking too much again?  You said i claimed this was an obama failure, which I didnt.  I asked a question and that was it. 

So you inferred from my question that I was trying to make a statement, which I was not. 

again, read the thread again and show me where I claimed this was an obama failure? 

[The Luke]

Read your posts fool.  Are you drinking too much again?  You said i claimed this was an obama failure, which I didnt.  I asked a question and that was it. 

So you inferred from my question that I was trying to make a statement, which I was not. 

again, read the thread again and show me where I claimed this was an obama failure? 

So, if you weren't making your usual point, did you have any point at all...?


The Luke

[Kazan]

You can buy nightvision goggles in any electronics store in Europe, Asia, Africa, Australia, Russia or the Middle East... and have been able to do so since the mid-nineties.

So what are you Palin-voters upset about now...?


Seriously, sometimes I cringe at the chronic debilitating level of ignorance on this board.



The Luke

So you think you can just go into one of these shops and buy military grade equipment? The only ignorance on this board is your arrogant ass.

[The Luke]

So you think you can just go into one of these shops and buy military grade equipment? The only ignorance on this board is your arrogant ass.

Yes you can... it might be a couple of years behind the cutting edge stuff, but if that's a problem for you then just don't buy American equipment. Only the American companies are prohibited from selling military grade equipment to consumers.

Let me explain, any private citizen here in Europe can buy GenIII, GenIV, and GenV nightvision equipment.... GenV was military grade only in the US as recently as 2007 or so.

But if all this shopping around bothers you, you can buy custom parts that far exceed the technical performance of anything the US military issues to it's grunts.

It's just a little pricey.


The Luke

[headhuntersix]

Yeah......go ahead and buy it in mass quantities then. The Chinese aren't going to buy 10 custom NVG's they want 10 million sets. They want maintanience, they want manuels...batteries...sp are parts. Our NVG's are very good...the mass produced stuff many of our enemies use is old Soviet junk...better to keep them that way for as long as possible.

[BM OUT]

This is GREAT news!!!!Now when I look into my neighbors windows and masterbate I can do it even if her lights are off!!!!