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Killer whale kills trainer at Orlando's Sea World
« on: February 24, 2010, 02:35:05 PM »
A killer whale lived up to his name Wednesday when he drowned a trainer at Orlando's Sea World in front of horrified onlookers.

Police said the female trainer slipped and fell into his pool but a witness said the orca rose up from the water and grabbed her by the waist and shook her.

The 30-year-old, 5-ton marine mammal - the largest killer whale in captivity - has killed before: He drowned a biology student in 1991 and a naked, dead gatecrasher was found draped on his back in 1999.

The previous incidents were not attacks but misguided attempts by the otherwise docile whale to play, experts said.

But Tilikum, nicknamed Telly, is getting old and he may be getting cranky.

Florida park guest Victoria Biniak told WKMG-TV that the trainer was outlining the upcoming show to tourists when the huge orca suddenly loomed from the water.

"Telly took off really fast in the tank and he came back, shot up in the air, grabbed the trainer by the waist and started thrashing (her) around," Biniak said.

"It was violent."

Paramedics were unable to revive the 40-year-old trainer, who was pronounced dead at the scene at about 2 p.m. The park was closed.

"We have never in the history of our parks experienced an incident like this and all of our standard operating procedures will be under review," park president Dan Brown said.

Experts said they weren't sure what set off the whale.

"What he did in the previous two incidents were not attacks - to him, the people were toys, and to a whale, being underwater for 20 minutes is nothing. This sounds a little more like an attack," said Naomi Rose, a senior scientist at the Humane Society of the United States.

It was unclear what will happen to Tillikum.

"I dread to think of what their options are," Rose said.

She suggested he be retired to a sea pen in Iceland, like Keiko, the killer whale Hollywood made famous.

She said tragedies like this prove that powerful, intelligent wild animals should not be kept in pens and required to perform for tourists.

Social creatures, killer whales get stressed in pens, she said. In 1991, 20-year-old Keltie Byrne, a University of Victoria marine biology student and part-time trainer, slipped into the orca pool at Sealand of the Pacific in British Columbia.

Tilikum took her into his mouth and dragged her around the pool, most of the time underwater.

The champion swimmer broke free and tried to escape, but Tilikum and two female orcas blocked her from getting out of the pool and began tossing her back and forth between them.

A screaming Byrne tried to climb out of the pool but the whales pulled her back in.

She drowned in the mouth of an orca holding her underwater. Sealand of the Pacific closed the following year and Tillikum was shipped to Sea World, where his primary job was siring calves - not performing.

His part in the Sea World show is brief and comes just at the end, when he soaks the audience with massive splashes. And still there were casualties.

In 1999, 27-year-old Daniel Dukes, who had apparently stayed in the park overnight, was found dead in the morning, naked and draped across the whale.

It appeared he had tried to swim with the orca: his b bathing suit was in the water and his body was scraped, suggesting the whale had dragged him along the bottom of the tank.

He was not bitten or chewed. The most famous orca at Sea World is known as Shamu, but there is no single whale called that. It's the trademarked stage name of the star of Sea World's famous Orca show and is shared by many adult male or female killer whales.

The Orca show is Sea World's biggest draw, and crowds line up far ahead of the performances at Shamu Stadium, which seats 5,500.


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Re: Killer whale kills trainer at Orlando's Sea World
« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2010, 02:41:05 PM »
Don't fuck with nature's killing machines!

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Re: Killer whale kills trainer at Orlando's Sea World
« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2010, 02:41:52 PM »
they should have learned from the richard harris incident.
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Re: Killer whale kills trainer at Orlando's Sea World
« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2010, 02:42:22 PM »
If their fucking name didn't tell you they were dangerous than nothing will.

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Re: Killer whale kills trainer at Orlando's Sea World
« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2010, 02:47:08 PM »
i'm not reading all that but i see nothing about eating body parts r anything...even with the gate crasher person.  looks like this whale dont have a clue when to release when it pulls someone under.  

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Re: Killer whale kills trainer at Orlando's Sea World
« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2010, 02:49:50 PM »
Don't fuck with nature's killing machines!
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Re: Killer whale kills trainer at Orlando's Sea World
« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2010, 02:50:28 PM »
Onlyme needs to be fed hourly or shit like this will keep happening.

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Re: Killer whale kills trainer at Orlando's Sea World
« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2010, 02:51:32 PM »
Intelligent animals like Killer Whales and dolphins shouldn't be kept to perform. We neither understand them mentally or treat them accordingly. They should be out doing what they do best, hunting.

Plus, they need to make some non-slip surfaces there, everybody slips, and then Bam! And that may be a key, the  whale may think this sudden movement is play, or it may trigger their hunting instinct to seek wounded prey, who knows.

G, this has happened in the wild with Pilot Whales, and on video, the Pilot what takes a scuba diver down, and as soon as it has realized that the person is struggling to breath, it pushes the the diver fast up to the surface.

You may be right. Since it is so accustomed to playing with the trainers, it may have thought, "let's play". Aloe it was said he is getting old, do whales get senility?

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Re: Killer whale kills trainer at Orlando's Sea World
« Reply #8 on: February 24, 2010, 02:55:23 PM »
As sad as this news is, it just goes to show that you a wild animal will always be a wild animal. No matter how much we try to domesticate them, they will still retain their inherent nature to hunt, kill and protect, etc.
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« Reply #9 on: February 24, 2010, 02:57:38 PM »
Intelligent animals like Killer Whales and dolphins shouldn't be kept to perform. We neither understand them mentally or treat them accordingly. They should be out doing what they do best, hunting.

Plus, they need to make some non-slip surfaces there, everybody slips, and then Bam! And that may be a key, the  whale may think this sudden movement is play, or it may trigger their hunting instinct to seek wounded prey, who knows.

G, this has happened in the wild with Pilot Whales, and on video, the Pilot what takes a scuba diver down, and as soon as it has realized that the person is struggling to breath, it pushes the the diver fast up to the surface.

You may be right. Since it is so accustomed to playing with the trainers, it may have thought, "let's play". Aloe it was said he is getting old, do whales get senility?

i'd say you are probably right.  looks like this whale has a fix for drowning.  as intelligent as pilots so it would be able to sense when someone is struggling.  back to wild he goes.

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Re: Killer whale kills trainer at Orlando's Sea World
« Reply #10 on: February 24, 2010, 03:00:10 PM »
Onlyme needs to be fed hourly or shit like this will keep happening.

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Re: Killer whale kills trainer at Orlando's Sea World
« Reply #11 on: February 24, 2010, 03:02:10 PM »
Onlyme needs to be fed hourly or shit like this will keep happening.

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Re: Killer whale kills trainer at Orlando's Sea World
« Reply #12 on: February 24, 2010, 03:07:40 PM »
i'd say you are probably right.  looks like this whale has a fix for drowning.  as intelligent as pilots so it would be able to sense when someone is struggling.  back to wild he goes.
plus, they can know that we are air breathers like them, they can use their sonar to see our lungs, which are like theirs. I think that he may have a strong prey drive that is part of his "play".
I've never trusted them. I've never trusted huge, intelligent animals with teeth, that happen to live in a environment that man has not adapted to.

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Re: Killer whale kills trainer at Orlando's Sea World
« Reply #13 on: February 24, 2010, 03:08:15 PM »
Intelligent animals like Killer Whales and dolphins shouldn't be kept to perform. We neither understand them mentally or treat them accordingly. They should be out doing what they do best, hunting.

Plus, they need to make some non-slip surfaces there, everybody slips, and then Bam! And that may be a key, the  whale may think this sudden movement is play, or it may trigger their hunting instinct to seek wounded prey, who knows.

G, this has happened in the wild with Pilot Whales, and on video, the Pilot what takes a scuba diver down, and as soon as it has realized that the person is struggling to breath, it pushes the the diver fast up to the surface.

You may be right. Since it is so accustomed to playing with the trainers, it may have thought, "let's play". Aloe it was said he is getting old, do whales get senility?

Agreed.

If you want to see them so bad go take a trip to the coast, there are tours for things like this.

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Re: Killer whale kills trainer at Orlando's Sea World
« Reply #14 on: February 24, 2010, 03:12:39 PM »
plus, they can know that we are air breathers like them, they can use their sonar to see our lungs, which are like theirs. I think that he may have a strong prey drive that is part of his "play".
I've never trusted them. I've never trusted huge, intelligent animals with teeth, that happen to live in a environment that man has not adapted to.

I own the Movie "ORCA" and seen this coming.  ;)
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Re: Killer whale kills trainer at Orlando's Sea World
« Reply #15 on: February 24, 2010, 03:17:22 PM »
orcas are dangerous

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Re: Killer whale kills trainer at Orlando's Sea World
« Reply #16 on: February 24, 2010, 03:20:00 PM »
LOL @ onlyme comment.

I wonder if theres a video of this?

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« Reply #17 on: February 24, 2010, 03:20:39 PM »
LOL @ onlyme comment.

I wonder if theres a video of this?

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Re: Killer whale kills trainer at Orlando's Sea World
« Reply #18 on: February 24, 2010, 03:21:54 PM »
I own the Movie "ORCA" and seen this coming.  ;)
Yeah, it's like the people who want to have Great White Sharks in captivity to study them. This is th the most feared fish in the sea, and you want it in captivity.
I do believe in the beauty, but it is a dangerous beauty. Animals that are huge, have huge sharp teeth, and can process info, and exist in water, which we are not adapted to, will eventually result in human casualities.

Poly, that's what I'm saying. You want to go swim with them, go to the coast. All they do is train them to do tricks, fuck don't the animals get tired?

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Re: Killer whale kills trainer at Orlando's Sea World
« Reply #19 on: February 24, 2010, 03:27:02 PM »
oh boy...when they get cloning right...we are going to have some real good predators in the zoo with large brains.  hopefully one or 2 get loose.  :-\


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Re: Killer whale kills trainer at Orlando's Sea World
« Reply #20 on: February 24, 2010, 03:28:00 PM »
Yeah, it's like the people who want to have Great White Sharks in captivity to study them. This is th the most feared fish in the sea, and you want it in captivity.
I do believe in the beauty, but it is a dangerous beauty. Animals that are huge, have huge sharp teeth, and can process info, and exist in water, which we are not adapted to, will eventually result in human casualities.

Poly, that's what I'm saying. You want to go swim with them, go to the coast. All they do is train them to do tricks, fuck don't the animals get tired?

That is what i go do and would not try to swim with a White without a cage. Have you ever seen one of these whales up close?? They are huge and they are extremely intelligent from what i read and can go off at any time.

It is a tradegy that someone died but anyone who has a brain seen this coming.
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Re: Killer whale kills trainer at Orlando's Sea World
« Reply #21 on: February 24, 2010, 03:28:18 PM »
Deserved it, ts not a pet, shouldnt be trained like a slave for human pleasure and money.

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Re: Killer whale kills trainer at Orlando's Sea World
« Reply #22 on: February 24, 2010, 03:28:51 PM »
If a whale gets tired of of doing tricks for schomes, next thing you ass is dead.

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Re: Killer whale kills trainer at Orlando's Sea World
« Reply #23 on: February 24, 2010, 03:34:17 PM »
oh boy...when they get cloning right...we are going to have some real good predators in the zoo with large brains.  hopefully one or 2 get loose.  :-\



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Re: Killer whale kills trainer at Orlando's Sea World
« Reply #24 on: February 24, 2010, 03:40:21 PM »
I was at the Baltimore Aquarium a few yrs back and they have Bottlenose dolphins. They did their tricks, and after the show, I went to the pool to see the dolphin up close. They are cool looking, but I don't trust them. Plus the fucker was shitting in the pool---of course where else is the dolphin gonna shit. But the trainers swim in that.

Yeah, Mr Nobody, if a whale or dolphin gets tire of doing tricks, what are you gonna do? Sometimes fish just don't cut it. What's next starve them until they perform?

G, I've always said that they need to let a few raptors or T Rexs run loose, and there would less fat people around. Either they would get eaten, or they would lose weight from the cardio.