Mike Christian or Shawn Ray?

[regmac]

Iron Mike retired upset he placed a controverial 4th behind Shawn, LaBrada and Haney. He felt he was up there with the Awsome one.   Mike may be able to say he (like Wheeler, Ray, Gaspari, and Levrone) as a guy who COULD have been Mr. O. Anyone agree.

[Mr Nobody]

He was a cool dude but his legs never matched his upper body.

[Parker]

Iron Mike retired upset he placed a controverial 4th behind Shawn, LaBrada and Haney. He felt he was up there with the Awsome one.   Mike may be able to say he (like Wheeler, Ray, Gaspari, and Levrone) as a guy who COULD have been Mr. O. Anyone agree.

Mike was good, but he shouldn't be mentioned with he likes of Flex and Shawn.

[regmac]

He was a cool dude but his legs never matched his upper body.

For a tall guy, that's mormal.  But they weren't too skinny, he won a lot of titles.  Nice guy too....the drugs just got to him.  I still remember seeing him at Golds Venice  curl 120 dumbells like nothing!

[Mr Nobody]

For a tall guy, that's mormal.  But they weren't too skinny, he won a lot of titles.  Nice guy too....the drugs just got to him.  I still remember seeing him at Golds Venice  curl 120 dumbells like nothing!

All around great guy he just got into the narcotics which was his end.

[Flexb]

I believe he basically quit because he got hooked on nubain

[regmac]

I believe he basically quit because he got hooked on nubain

and coke, and probably a zillion other things...yet he owned a great company Platinum Everywear!   

[Valane]

Mike had great lines and shape and also had height, strong guy too. That alone puts him above Shawn and flex.

[jprc10]

Shawn Ray was better.

[regmac]

Mike was good, but he shouldn't be mentioned with he likes of Flex and Shawn.

I think so,  he was just as good.  And taller.

[regmac]

Mike had great lines and shape and also had height, strong guy too. That alone puts him above Shawn and flex.

Thank you,   point well taken.

[regmac]

Shawn Ray was better.

Had he stayed till 92....Mike may have had the freakness to beat Yates.

[Flexb]

Whoa! Are you guys saying Mike Christian is better than Flex? Whether head on or just for their times, no fukin way

[rudylrichards]

Shawn Ray, not even close.  Too many flaws on Mike

[regmac]

Shawn Ray, not even close.  Too many flaws on Mike

Only in the legs   he was wider than Shawn   but I like the opinions coming.

[rudylrichards]

Only in the legs   he was wider than Shawn   but I like the opinions coming.

He was bigger than Shawn, if you took a tape measure and measured both around the shoulders he was.  As far as the illusion created onstage, Shawn was wider or should i say appeared be much wider

[Old School Trainer]

If any of you guys could get your hands on the Bill Phillips audio tapes that he recording around 1992, you would find more about this thread?  The late Dan D. was working a little with Christian for the drug tested 90 Mr. O.  The interview was recorded from Dan's prison at the time and was great.

[regmac]

He was bigger than Shawn, if you took a tape measure and measured both around the shoulders he was.  As far as the illusion created onstage, Shawn was wider or should i say appeared be much wider

Not   but it IS safe to say Shawn had a more pleasing physique.  But his back wasn't fully developed that year.  I remember his rear lat spread had no  lats to spread.

[AVBG]

great build on Christian..

[regmac]

great build on Christian..

The Iron Warrior!!!!

[barium meal]

shawn ray is a stand up short little man...yes, he has a big mouth

[Hulkster]

although Mike was good in 1990 at the O, his lower body never caught up with his awesome arms, back and chest.

shawn on the other hand, was nearly perfect, except for lat width and natural stature.

[regmac]

shawn ray is a stand up short little man...yes, he has a big mouth

So is Mayweather, TO, Ochocinco, Rodman, Regmac, Sean Avery, Deion, Irvin,Shaq, Mark Cuban, Richard Williams, Chris Tucker, Chris Rock, etc  etc.

[barium meal]

although Mike was good in 1990 at the O, his lower body never caught up with his awesome arms, back and chest.

shawn on the other hand, was nearly perfect, except for lat width and natural stature.

troll, you use the reference 'nearly perfect'....lol

calling a midget 'nearly perfect' is hilarious

[Danimal77]

I remember he made a comeback in the mid 90's...He was in the magazines saying he was weighing 265 pounds at 6'1" and was going to cause some serious damage. I think it was Rich Gaspari that motivated to do so, but that never came to be.