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Re: Mike Christian or Shawn Ray?
« Reply #25 on: February 26, 2010, 10:32:42 PM »
shawn ray is a stand up short little man...yes, he has a big mouth

And clearly so do you  ::) ::) ::) ::)

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Re: Mike Christian or Shawn Ray?
« Reply #26 on: February 26, 2010, 10:48:34 PM »
I think so,  he was just as good.  And taller.
Reg, I respect you and all, but to mak such a comment...I hope you dine on rotten elephant assholes.

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Re: Mike Christian or Shawn Ray?
« Reply #27 on: February 27, 2010, 12:27:56 AM »
And clearly so do you  ::) ::) ::) ::)

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Re: Mike Christian or Shawn Ray?
« Reply #28 on: February 27, 2010, 01:53:43 AM »
although Mike was good in 1990 at the O, his lower body never caught up with his awesome arms, back and chest.

shawn on the other hand, was nearly perfect, except for lat width and natural stature.


He also lacked width and had funky quads. Although overall he did have a very pleasing physique aesthetically, certainly a lot better than Dorian or Ronnie.

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Re: Mike Christian or Shawn Ray?
« Reply #29 on: February 27, 2010, 03:51:47 AM »

He also lacked width and had funky quads. Although overall he did have a very pleasing physique aesthetically, certainly a lot better than Dorian or Ronnie.


I don't really agree with him being more aesthetic than either of them tbh, unless like Branch Warren you equate aestheticness with smallness, in which case yes Mike Christian is more aesthetic. He had half the muscular thickness of either Dorian or Ronnie so he was less dense and less muscular, with much smaller legs than both and Shawn Ray also. I think Shawn is the best of the bunch aesthetically. I dunno, it all depends what year you're comparing it to.







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Re: Mike Christian or Shawn Ray?
« Reply #30 on: February 27, 2010, 04:10:12 AM »

I don't really agree with him being more aesthetic than either of them tbh, unless like Branch Warren you equate aestheticness with smallness, in which case yes Mike Christian is more aesthetic. He had half the muscular thickness of either Dorian or Ronnie so he was less dense and less muscular, with much smaller legs than both and Shawn Ray also. I think Shawn is the best of the bunch aesthetically. I dunno, it all depends what year you're comparing it to.









I equate aesthetics to muscle shape, taper, proportion, bone structure, symmetry and an overall look of athletacism. Neither Dorian or Ronnie look like athletes, they look rigid and ungainly, there is no grace present. Like a racehorse or a panther a certain ammount of leaness has to be apparent, past a certain muscular weight this is not possible.

Shawn is destroying Dorian in that pic, how he didn't win a sandow god only knows.

Since time in memoriam the type of physique that has been celebrated is akin to a Shawn Ray or a Bob Paris. Dorian and Ronnie are just bloated overmuscled freaks really.

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Re: Mike Christian or Shawn Ray?
« Reply #31 on: February 27, 2010, 05:10:45 AM »

I equate aesthetics to muscle shape, taper, proportion, bone structure, symmetry and an overall look of athletacism. Neither Dorian or Ronnie look like athletes, they look rigid and ungainly, there is no grace present. Like a racehorse or a panther a certain ammount of leaness has to be apparent, past a certain muscular weight this is not possible.

Shawn is destroying Dorian in that pic, how he didn't win a sandow god only knows.

Since time in memoriam the type of physique that has been celebrated is akin to a Shawn Ray or a Bob Paris. Dorian and Ronnie are just bloated overmuscled freaks really.

I see what you're saying but this is bodybuilding, so often the most built body will win. Dorian and Ronnie were both quite aesthetic in their younger years, but they didn't want to come 4th forever or worse like Mike Christian so they developed their muscles to the next level.




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Re: Mike Christian or Shawn Ray?
« Reply #32 on: February 27, 2010, 06:36:35 AM »


Shawn is destroying Dorian in that pic, how he didn't win a sandow god only knows.

From the front.  Shawn, Nasser, Kevin, Dillette and Flex all beat Dorian from the front, once they turned to the sides and back it was a different story.  Dorian was alot thicker & denser than shawn.  A dimension that hard to captured on camera. I like Ray's physique better, but Dorian was a better bodybuilder IMO. 

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Re: Mike Christian or Shawn Ray?
« Reply #33 on: February 27, 2010, 06:54:50 AM »
From the front.  Shawn, Nasser, Kevin, Dillette and Flex all beat Dorian from the front, once they turned to the sides and back it was a different story.  Dorian was alot thicker & denser than shawn.  A dimension that hard to captured on camera. I like Ray's physique better, but Dorian was a better bodybuilder IMO. 



Shawn had a lot of back detail, they are not worlds apart. It is not merely a best back contest.

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Re: Mike Christian or Shawn Ray?
« Reply #34 on: February 27, 2010, 01:15:22 PM »
Ray did have alot of back details, Dorian had more detail, size, thickness, width, etc.  it's not a best back contest but having the best back certainly helps. I do think Dorian was worlds apart from the back.

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Re: Mike Christian or Shawn Ray?
« Reply #35 on: February 27, 2010, 01:34:16 PM »
Iron Mike retired upset he placed a controverial 4th behind Shawn, LaBrada and Haney. He felt he was up there with the Awsome one.   Mike may be able to say he (like Wheeler, Ray, Gaspari, and Levrone) as a guy who COULD have been Mr. O. Anyone agree.

shawn would make a great oompah loompa

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Re: Mike Christian or Shawn Ray?
« Reply #36 on: March 01, 2010, 11:48:29 AM »
Reg, I respect you and all, but to mak such a comment...I hope you dine on rotten elephant assholes.
How many calories protein , carbs, and fat?   My ex was a bit on the heavy set side so ...... ::)
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Re: Mike Christian or Shawn Ray?
« Reply #37 on: March 01, 2010, 03:37:01 PM »
How many calories protein , carbs, and fat?   My ex was a bit on the heavy set side so ...... ::)
I was being sarcastic.

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Re: Mike Christian or Shawn Ray?
« Reply #38 on: March 01, 2010, 05:42:14 PM »
I was being sarcastic.
Yeah?    Like I was being serious? :D
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Re: Mike Christian or Shawn Ray?
« Reply #39 on: March 01, 2010, 05:57:38 PM »
its true shawn had a more aesthetic physique than ronnie or dorian

although considering ronnie was almost 260 pounds at his arguable peak in 1999, he looked good.

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Re: Mike Christian or Shawn Ray?
« Reply #40 on: March 01, 2010, 05:59:44 PM »

Shawn had a lot of back detail, they are not worlds apart. It is not merely a best back contest.

true. shawn had a great double bi back shot.

it was the lat spread that hurt him against dorian.

still, shawn should have won in 1994. many say other years as well.
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Re: Mike Christian or Shawn Ray?
« Reply #41 on: March 01, 2010, 06:01:16 PM »
true. shawn had a great double bi back shot.

it was the lat spread that hurt him against dorian.

still, shawn should have won in 1994. many say other years as well.
He had LESS back detail than MC at the MrO in 1990.
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Re: Mike Christian or Shawn Ray?
« Reply #42 on: March 02, 2010, 06:58:10 AM »
true. shawn had a great double bi back shot.

it was the lat spread that hurt him against dorian.

still, shawn should have won in 1994. many say other years as well.

Shawn should have beaten Dorian in 1994, 1996 and 1997.


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Re: Mike Christian or Shawn Ray?
« Reply #43 on: March 02, 2010, 07:28:34 AM »
Shawn should have beaten Dorian in 1994, 1996 and 1997.




Dorian getting dominated. Having a good back does not overcome his myriad structural failings.

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Re: Mike Christian or Shawn Ray?
« Reply #44 on: March 02, 2010, 01:54:22 PM »
He had LESS back detail than MC at the MrO in 1990.

true, shawn's back went from a weakpoint in 1990 to a strong point, at least in terms of the back double bi shot, by 93 onwards.
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Re: Mike Christian or Shawn Ray?
« Reply #45 on: March 02, 2010, 07:10:28 PM »
true, shawn's back went from a weakpoint in 1990 to a strong point, at least in terms of the back double bi shot, by 93 onwards.
Shawns back  improved noticably in 92.  It was like WOW!!!!!
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Re: Mike Christian or Shawn Ray?
« Reply #46 on: March 02, 2010, 07:27:06 PM »
A pioneer  ;D  ::)  >:(

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Re: Mike Christian or Shawn Ray?
« Reply #47 on: March 02, 2010, 07:29:46 PM »

Dorian getting dominated. Having a good back does not overcome his myriad structural failings.

true. I always laugh when I see shawn and dorian standing next to one another, because his quads just blow dorian's out of the water..
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Re: Mike Christian or Shawn Ray?
« Reply #48 on: March 02, 2010, 07:30:32 PM »
another kev leverone,picked up weights 3/4 months out of olympia ,took his "supps"and was ready to battle,good bber not a faithful trainer .

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Re: Mike Christian or Shawn Ray?
« Reply #49 on: March 02, 2010, 10:53:06 PM »
troll, you use the reference 'nearly perfect'....lol

calling a midget 'nearly perfect' is hilarious

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