Do americans *really* prefer a Dem president?

[240 is Back]

Out of the last 5 elections... three have been Dem landslides, and two were very close photo-finishes. 

92
Clinton won 370 to 168 electoral over Bush1.

96
Clinton won 379 to 159 electoral over Dole.


2000
Bush needed to sue to stop FL votes from being hand-counted as Gore closed in.  Supreme Court awarded him the presidency.

2004
Weird power and polling anomalies in Ohio.  Dems requested the paper backups of ballots be counted to verify Bush won.  Repubs sued.  Those ballots still never have been counted, but there is a pretty good statistical chance (based on exit polls) that windsurfing douche kerry won ohio.

08

Obama won 365 to 173 electoral over Mccain.


So my question is.... does america as a whole REALLY prefer a dem president?  When everyone shows up - are the majority of americans actually dems?  I know, you poll people and they all claim to be conservatives or independents.   But on election day, 3 of the last 5 have been dem landslides, and the other two were ties, with Repubs having better legal teams.  We could be looking at 5 straight Dem wins, if Rove and friends weren't so good in the courtroom.

What say you?  Is America a nation with a majority of Democrats?

[Kazan]

Don't think it really matters, in the big picture, who can sell the most BS wins. They don't call Clinton slick willy for nothing. Bush I and Dole had little to no charisma, and stood no chance.

Bush II hmmmm, you pit him against Gore who is a goofball and tries to take credit from everything under the sun, doesn't surprise me

Bush II , you put him against Learch Kerry who is about in touch with the average American as Stalin, doesn't surprise me either.

Obama vs McCain, again a case of lack of charisma, I don't like Obama, but he could see an ice box to an eskimo.

[240 is Back]

So youre saying IF the dems had run someone non-douchey in 2000 and 2004, they could have won easily?  If their douche essentially "Tied" a cool guy you'd like to have a beer with... and when they run a smooth guy (clinton, obama) they win by a mile.

When the repubs have the personality adantage, it's a tie that gets settled in court.
When the dems have the personality advantage, it's a landslide win for them.

[Skip8282]

What say you?  Is America a nation with a majority of Democrats?

Well, since you're a self-described, liberal-moderate-conservative-libertarian, what's your opinion?

[Soul Crusher]

Well, since you're a self-described, liberal-moderate-conservative-libertarian, what's your opinion?

I think as a nation we are so dumbed down, so illiterate, so dependent on these psychopaths, so child-like in our views, that it is tailor-made for democrat victories in elections.

When you have 50% paying no taxes and totally dependent on the govt for everything, its amazing a reup ever wins considering the massive coalition that makes up the Communist party aka Democrat party. 

[240 is Back]

I think most americans consider themselves independent and conservative, self-reliant, etc.

I also think most americans are also lazy and would rather let the govt take care of them, then do things themselves.

So yeah, I think more ppl vote dem for president for the last 20 years

[Skip8282]

I think as a nation we are so dumbed down, so illiterate, so dependent on these psychopaths, so child-like in our views, that it is tailor-made for democrat victories in elections.

When you have 50% paying no taxes and totally dependent on the govt for everything, its amazing a reup ever wins considering the massive coalition that makes up the Communist party aka Democrat party.  

But don't you think that's a huge problem?  If we're graduating dumb, dependent people, and then telling them to be self-sufficient...well, you get the point.  Calling people dummies and expecting them to take care of themselves...

[Soul Crusher]

I think most americans consider themselves independent and conservative, self-reliant, etc.

I also think most americans are also lazy and would rather let the govt take care of them, then do things themselves.

So yeah, I think more ppl vote dem for president for the last 20 years

Granny who paid in 10k over her life, yet bleeds the system dry via social security and medicare is never going to vote  for the guy AARP tells them is buddies with Dr. Jack.  

Our politics are a disgrace.  Blacks vote 95% Democrat/Communist every election because they think the GOP is going to burn crosses on their front lawns,

Single Women because they think the GOP is going to make them stick a hanger up their pussy.

Old people because they want the ponzi scheme they benefit from to never end.

Union members and govt employees because they benefit when the private sector gets raped in taxes, and

Young people because they are too stupid to realize the false promises of the typical Democra/Socialist/Communist Politician.

The only people who really vote GOP are the remaining taxpayers with an ounce of self respect who resent paying their weekly wages to a redistribution mafia racket called the government who buys votes with their money under the threat of jail.  

    

[Soul Crusher]

But don't you think that's a huge problem?  If we're graduating dumb, dependent people, and then telling them to be self-sufficient...well, you get the point.  Calling people dummies and expecting them to take care of themselves...

Skip - why do you think I am so pessimistic about our future? 

These morons are INTENTIONALLY indoctrinated with leftist crap from almost birth and you think my calling them a fool is going to make a difference when their DNA tells them to be a lazy POFS looking to loot my paycheck so they can have more goodies at my expense? 

Just walk around at any mall, public gathering, etc and look around at your average "American".  We have become a weak, dependent, pathetic, and envios group of slobs thinking all one has to do to get ahead is vote for the next democrat communist to resdistribute evil rich peoples' money to ourselves. 

[240 is Back]

"The only people who really vote GOP are the remaining taxpayers with an ounce of self respect who resent paying their weekly wages to a redistribution mafia racket called the government who buys votes with their money under the threat of jail.  "

WELL.... there's also the toothless appalacian mountain racists...

but aside from that, you're absolutely right... I've been saying for a while that the dems are creating a dependent welfare state that helps to keep them in power.  It's not sustainable forever... but as long as those 40% of repub voter taxpayers are willing to support the other 60%, it will continue.  (we're ignoring every working taxpayer obama voter, i'm sure they exist too)

[Soul Crusher]

"The only people who really vote GOP are the remaining taxpayers with an ounce of self respect who resent paying their weekly wages to a redistribution mafia racket called the government who buys votes with their money under the threat of jail.  "

WELL.... there's also the toothless appalacian mountain racists...

but aside from that, you're absolutely right... I've been saying for a while that the dems are creating a dependent welfare state that helps to keep them in power.  It's not sustainable forever... but as long as those 40% of repub voter taxpayers are willing to support the other 60%, it will continue.  (we're ignoring every working taxpayer obama voter, i'm sure they exist too)

Few and far between. 

The typical Obama voter is what I described above in my posts.  You have a few guilt ridden white libs, especially jews in CA and NY, who voted for obama.  They disgust me beyond imagination.

Remember the big schelp by that young hag trying to get jews from ny to go to florida to get their elderly grandparents to vote for obama? 

 What a horrible time we live in, in terms of our national charachter.  Its truly embarassing what we have become.  A sad sack of shit. 

[Eyeball Chambers]

everybody be wanten' handouts, ain't no one want to vote democrat

[newmom]

not true my young one..Im a registered Dem

[Soul Crusher]

not true my young one..Im a registered Dem

Not every one of course since there are always exceptions to the rule.  But overall I think I am right.

I am in NYC and am a lot like Michael Savage.  I understand the mental disorder that is the typical lib voter and its sort of like a disease gone viral nationally. 

Just think Peggy Joseph.   

[newmom]

Not every one of course since there are always exceptions to the rule.  But overall I think I am right.

I am in NYC and am a lot like Michael Savage.  I understand the mental disorder that is the typical lib voter and its sort of like a disease gone viral nationally. 

Just think Peggy Joseph.   

haha not sure what NYC has to do with it..I lived in the LES for 6 years

[MM2K]

Out of the last 5 elections... three have been Dem landslides, and two were very close photo-finishes.  

92
Clinton won 370 to 168 electoral over Bush1.

96
Clinton won 379 to 159 electoral over Dole.


2000
Bush needed to sue to stop FL votes from being hand-counted as Gore closed in.  Supreme Court awarded him the presidency.

2004
Weird power and polling anomalies in Ohio.  Dems requested the paper backups of ballots be counted to verify Bush won.  Repubs sued.  Those ballots still never have been counted, but there is a pretty good statistical chance (based on exit polls) that windsurfing douche kerry won ohio.

08

Obama won 365 to 173 electoral over Mccain.

Republicans have won seven out of the last eleven elections. I would call Clinton and Obama's wins decisive victories, but not landslides. McCain was very close in the popular vote and Clinton only won a plurality both times. Reagan truly had landslide victories. Bush was not "handed" the presidency by the Supreme Court. The Supreme Court  stopped the Florida Supreme Court from trying to hand the presidency to Gore. I dont know where you are getting your info about Ohio. Bush ahd that easily won.


And Obama wont be re-elected. If anything, over the long run, Americans prefer Republican Presidents. They just have to elect a Democrat once in a while to remind them of why they prefer Repubilcan. And I would argue that CLinton doesnt really count since he was more of a moderate Democrat and the Republicans had complete control of the COngress for the first time in 40 years.

[Soul Crusher]

Republicans have won seven out of the last eleven elections. I would call Clinton and Obama's wins decisive victories, but not landslides. McCain was very close in the popular vote and Clinton only won a plurality both times. Reagan truly had landslide victories. Bush was not "handed" the presidency by the Supreme Court. The Supreme Court  stopped the Florida Supreme Court from trying to hand the presidency to Gore. I dont know where you are getting your info about Ohio. Bush ahd that easily won.


And Obama wont be re-elected. If anything, over the long run, Americans prefer Republican Presidents. They just have to elect a Democrat once in a while to remind them of why they prefer Repubilcan. And I would argue that CLinton doesnt really count since he was more of a moderate Democrat and the Republicans had complete control of the COngress for the first time in 40 years.

It depends on a few things: 

1.  Who obama runs against. 

2.  Whether the GOP wins the mid terms.  If the GOP does, Obama could pull a clinton and triangulate. 

3.  The state of the economy (which in opinion will be the same if not far worse by then)

4.  Any foreign policy disasters.   


My hunch is that, like I said from day 1, Obama is a committed NWO communist and will not moderate or be sensible.  He will double down on cap & Trade , amnesty for illegals, new taxes, etc. 

[240 is Back]

old ppl vote in mid-terms... young people don't.  So you would expect repubs to do better in those years.  Repubs owned congress for 12 years, from 94 until 2006.

But when it comes to presidents, in this modern era (last 20 years)...

Dems have won 3 with a huge electoral wins, and Repubs have squeaked out two wins with court battles for narrow electoral wins. 


MM2k, sadly, I don't think we can count back 11 elections.  Because 44 years ago, Americans were different than they were today.  Modern americans seem to want a lib president to coddle them... that's my take.

[BM OUT]

Revisionist history.Reagan won in absolute landslides held office for 8 years.Bush won big,held office for 4 years.Clinton ran as a moderate and won for four years then did a good job and was reelected for four more years.Gore was running off 8 good years,decent economy,no wars and got beat.You say it was because of the court,he lost and lost EVERYTIME they recounted the votes.HE GOT BEAT!!!After 8 good years asa vice president.Bush won again EASILY by over 3 million votes and the lib media acted like he stole the election,ignoring ACORN and all the democrat shannanigans.Kerry was smoked.Obama ran,again,as a moderate saying 95% of Americans would get tax cuts[A LIE] and won easily.He will be a one term president.

So,by my count its 20 years of republican presidents and 9 years of democrat presidents.Id say that makes you wrong.Even if you dont want to go back to Reagan it makes it 12 years to 12 years,so my question is WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?

[James]

Poll after poll shows that the Country is a center of right Country,  and more people consider themselves a conservative over moderate or liberal. So why do Liberals get elected ?  One of the biggest reasons is our left leaning media.  And the second biggest reason is we truly have not had a conservative to vote for since Reagan, and also,  some States have little to no say in who will be the Republican choice. Why should Ohio or Florida get to vote before other States ? If every state voted on the same day (Primary),we might have had Pat Buchanan in 2000 instead of  Bush. I think every State should vote for on the same day for the person who is going to be the nominee. I live in Texas, and as always, by the time the we get to choose who is going to be the Republican. it has already been decided. Just like this last time, before Texas and other States got to vote in the primary, McCain already had it. as did Dole in 1996
I held my nose and voted for McCain, even though he wasn't a conservative, he wasn't a socialist either, like Obama. But I know many who did not vote, as they said MCCain was not a conservative, and they had already been fooled by Bush ( Amnesty, spending, Harriet Miers, etc..) and would not be going down that road again.

[Soul Crusher]

Poll after poll  shows that  the Country is a center of right Country,  and   more people consider themselves a conservative over  moderate or liberal. So why do Liberals get elected ?
Why ?

One of the biggest reasons is our left leaning media.

And the second biggest reason is we truly have not had a conservative to vote for since Reagan, as some States have little to no say in who will be the Republican choice. Why should Ohio or Florida get to vote before other States ? If every States voted on the same day (Primary), would we might have had  Pat Buchanan in 2000 instead of  Bush. I think every State should vote for on the same day for the person who is going to be the nominee. I live in Texas, and as always, by the time the we get to choose who is going to be the Republican. it has already been decided. Just like this last time, before Texas and other States got to vote in the primary, McCain already had it. as did Dole in 1996
I held my nose and voted for McCain, even though he wasn't a conservative, he wasn't a socialist either, like Obama. But I know many who did not vote, as they said MCCain was not a conservative, and they had already been fooled by Bush ( Amnesty, spending, Harriet Miers, etc..) and would not be going down that road again.

Christie in NJ is the man.  That is exactly the model of leadership I want.

He is literally taking a blowtorch to the govt in NJ and all the libs are screaming like little bitches. 

[BM OUT]

Christie in NJ is the man.  That is exactly the model of leadership I want.

He is literally taking a blowtorch to the govt in NJ and all the libs are screaming like little bitches. 

Agree,but he will have to slim down to go national,as stupid as that is.There are a few republicans who are really good,Christie,Paul Ryan,Cantor,Pence,things are looking up,young,smart super conservatives with some balls.Like you said,Christie doesnt give a shit about unions,libs or anything else,he is going to change that state.Ryan stares down Obama everytime and dominates him in every argument.Things are looking up.as Rush says "the era of McCain is over".

[240 is Back]

james, I agree with what the polls say - I pointed that out in my original post.

My point is that for the last 20 years, people say they are conservative, then they choose dem leadership.


If we want to go back to the 70s and Reagan era, that's fine.  IMO, americans were different back then.  Tougher, harder working, less coddled, and above all, they didn't feel that sense of ENTITLEMENT that people have today.  

Today, more americans want to be taken care of.  That's my point.

[MCWAY]

Out of the last 5 elections... three have been Dem landslides, and two were very close photo-finishes.  

92
Clinton won 370 to 168 electoral over Bush1.

96
Clinton won 379 to 159 electoral over Dole.


2000
Bush needed to sue to stop FL votes from being hand-counted as Gore closed in.  Supreme Court awarded him the presidency.

2004
Weird power and polling anomalies in Ohio.  Dems requested the paper backups of ballots be counted to verify Bush won.  Repubs sued.  Those ballots still never have been counted, but there is a pretty good statistical chance (based on exit polls) that windsurfing douche kerry won ohio.

08

Obama won 365 to 173 electoral over Mccain.


So my question is.... does america as a whole REALLY prefer a dem president?  When everyone shows up - are the majority of americans actually dems?  I know, you poll people and they all claim to be conservatives or independents.   But on election day, 3 of the last 5 have been dem landslides, and the other two were ties, with Repubs having better legal teams.  We could be looking at 5 straight Dem wins, if Rove and friends weren't so good in the courtroom.

What say you?  Is America a nation with a majority of Democrats?

NOPE, not if you consider Reagan clobbering Carter and mauling Mondale.

Throw in Bush's win over Dukakis and you have 12 years of GOP presidency to add to the other Bush ("W") presidency.

BTW, all the Supreme Court did was stop the circus of the Democrats, trying to redefine valid ballots to give Gore the win. Five weeks of recounts and Bush never lost his lead. Besides, if the mainstream media hadn't prematurely called Florida for Gore, before the folks in the Panhandle (which is on Central Time, and tends to vote GOP) finished their voting, "W" would have won by a wider margin, negating the need for a recount.

[BM OUT]

james, I agree with what the polls say - I pointed that out in my original post.

My point is that for the last 20 years, people say they are conservative, then they choose dem leadership.


If we want to go back to the 70s and Reagan era, that's fine.  IMO, americans were different back then.  Tougher, harder working, less coddled, and above all, they didn't feel that sense of ENTITLEMENT that people have today.  

Today, more americans want to be taken care of.  That's my point.

Again:
bush 1-4 years
clinton-8 years
bush-8 years
obama-4 years

I dont see your point.By the way,Reagan was elected in 1980 not in the 70s.He absolutely trounced his opponents in elections by landslides never seen before.Why?We came off 4 years of left wing lunacy.Just as we will be coming off 4 years of Obama bullshit in 3 years.