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Re: Phil Heath: Black, White, or Bi-Racial?
« Reply #25 on: March 08, 2010, 02:51:04 PM »
Wont happen. Even Brazil has it's problems, and they are more mixed than we are. Just because people mix in the bedroom doesn't mean things change in the living room or the boardroom. Especially with the low standards of Americans now on who they have children with. A tan utopia is a dream, because after racism, then there is "colorism", whose lighter, darker, etc.

Slate, you are going by the Portuguese system, where you were a lil mote lenient. In American, your ass was either black or white in colonial America, no middle ground.

Apparently mulato can can be traced back to he word "mule", being that a mule is combo of a horse and a donkey.
Then you have Zambos, which are black and indian, etc.
Hey, Parker. If you really want an end-user certificate for racism just look to India. These guys decided that a colour gradient just wasn't good enough, so they started a 'caste system' to add a class system to such an exclusionary mix. People are shitty. What are ya gonna do?   :)    

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Re: Phil Heath: Black, White, or Bi-Racial?
« Reply #26 on: March 08, 2010, 03:03:04 PM »
You have to remember, white genes are recessive, over time race mixing will lead to some features being no longer existant or atleast no longer visible. However black curly hair and brown eyes will always be around.

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the genes that define our outside characteristics are a very very small part of our genome (genotype), which happens in some characteristics to follow the simplistic  mendelian genetics of dominant vs recessive genes. In reality a mixed X race and Y race person is truly mixed race. The concept of Mendelian genetics of dominant and recessive genes is so simplistic as to be useless in the great majority of  characteristics (phenotypes) because they are the  product of the interaction of 1000s of genes and there is no simple mendelian dom/recessive concept in these cases (yes it is still mostly true in simple phenotypes like eye colour or some weird genetic diseases but overall it is meaningless


the truth is that this is all mostly cultural. in US you can be 3/4 white and still be classfied as afro-american. that only makes sense in the "drop of blood" paradigm. I mean if you are a white supremacist then you must think very lowly of your genes if it only takes a drop to make you non-white. And in any case unless ur are a creationinst u should know where your 40K years ago ancestors came from- clue it was not the artic pole

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Re: Phil Heath: Black, White, or Bi-Racial?
« Reply #27 on: March 08, 2010, 03:39:28 PM »

mendal genetics at its' finest.   :)



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Re: Phil Heath: Black, White, or Bi-Racial?
« Reply #28 on: March 08, 2010, 03:46:02 PM »
Racism cuts both ways


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Re: Phil Heath: Black, White, or Bi-Racial?
« Reply #29 on: March 08, 2010, 03:50:12 PM »

I think you meant to post that last photo at bears of san francisco,               shitstain.

thanks gimmick.  144 posts and like u matter.  :)

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Re: Phil Heath: Black, White, or Bi-Racial?
« Reply #30 on: March 08, 2010, 03:59:29 PM »
well, well, well...as usual...parker has the best commentary but that's to be expect.  i'll stay away from this one cause chaos will be after my ass...saying i'm pushing blk "real hard".  hey chaos...i like u more than disturbed.

anyway...outside NA...there are a wealth of terms which parker probably knows most of them from his research and i've listed before.  hence...you will pretty much here people say "brown people".  mulatto is a hard one...parker...cause in history it has alot of sexual overtones to it.  even your beloved brasilians dont like it so they came up with 150 categories to over 60% of the pop.  it's just a thing to insure you are not at the bottom of the pyramid so to speak with some brownie people like "seal" ending up at the bottom of the social latter.

in short...it really comes down to features which the one drop usually insures you will carry some phenotype that expresses afri vs say white, latin, etc.  hence my mother (the charlie sheen n family - white mexicans)'s side of the family cant pass for black but easily for white probably carry that 10% afri blood theory, my sisters are pretty much olive bonitas (roselyn sanchez types) n almost impossible call in public to call blk...and i'm the 1/4 of the genetic square who cares my fathers (seal (singer) type cuban) features but can still be mistaken for a mexican   >:(.

for the last time on getdumb...just a bit of the family...me, mom (right) and a sis (left)

btw...i have a cousins who are half japanese. again 5 look asian but one looks complete blk...no asian features.

mendal genetics at its' finest.   :)



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Re: Phil Heath: Black, White, or Bi-Racial?
« Reply #31 on: March 08, 2010, 04:06:46 PM »
Wiggs you know that bi-racial is a polite or PC term for Mulatto? Of course it cam be applied to the half black half Asian (Blasian) or half Asian half white, but typically it came about as a PC term for Mulatto. Because mofos want to tip-toe around the black issue.
He has no choice but to ID himself as black, can you imagine him shakin hands with a black man and the person saying, "What's going on, my brotha?" and Phil says, "Im not black..."

I don't know what white folks obsession with "blackness" and such is. It's like what Josephine Baker said, "White people's imaginations run wild when it comes to Negroes"

Every fucking day, I have to come on to getbig and be reminded that I'm black, or a black man did this or that. And it is usually white folks that always put it up.
Maybe it's subconsciously done because the the sport is dominated by black guys, and the fanbase is dominated by insecure  young white men (same fan base as MMA).

Let me or you put up some thread talking about what the white man did today (start a war, throwing HIV infected needles in the water, etc). Shit wouldn't last at all.

At the end of the day, Phil is black man with a bald head, a wide nose, full lips and light eyes. We can either look at that and judge him or look at the man's guns and use that for motivation to train.

Whites don't have an obsession with blackness, black people do.  How many young black men are pressured into accepting a particular type of life style, one which is often nonproductive and detrimental to their personal growth and professional success, because some black person has defined such behavior as being considered true blackness. Intellectualism is the first casualty of that type of mentality. Anti-intellectualism or pseudo-intellectualism is rampant in the black community. To be an intelligent, well read, responsible member of society is consider being white or weak.  

My brothers wife is black and when his sons were born the pressure from the black community to erase my brothers heritage was strong.  When his oldest boy was born, the nurse actually came up to my brother and gave him a speech about how he should list the race of the child and black.  Oddly enough, if you saw the boys you wouldn't even consider them to be black but a Hispanic/White mix.

As for why whites talk about what black people do is simple; they are tired of the hypocrisy adn being blame for the problems within their own community.  Let me be clear, I am as liberal as they come and not some redneck racist. You might also be surprised to know that I grew up in the predominately black neighborhood of Pontiac MI.  

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Re: Phil Heath: Black, White, or Bi-Racial?
« Reply #32 on: March 08, 2010, 04:17:18 PM »
Whites don't have an obsession with blackness, black people do.  How many young black men are pressured into accepting a particular type of life style, one which is often nonproductive and detrimental to their personal growth and professional success, because some black person has defined such behavior as being considered true blackness. Intellectualism is the first casualty of that type of mentality. Anti-intellectualism or pseudo-intellectualism is rampant in the black community. To be an intelligent, well read, responsible member of society is consider being white or weak.  

My brothers wife is black and when his sons were born the pressure from the black community to erase my brothers heritage was strong.  When his oldest boy was born, the nurse actually came up to my brother and gave him a speech about how he should list the race of the child and black.  Oddly enough, if you saw the boys you wouldn't even consider them to be black but a Hispanic/White mix.

As for why whites talk about what black people do is simple; they are tired of the hypocrisy adn being blame for the problems within their own community.  Let me be clear, I am as liberal as they come and not some redneck racist. You might also be surprised to know that I grew up in the predominately black neighborhood of Pontiac MI.  



there are clues that distinguish.



forget mom in the picture just for a moment.  look at soledad's hair line.  that's afri hair...as they would.  that's how we can get past skin color and pick up a little feature in the crowd that says afro.  no racial...chaos.  :)

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Re: Phil Heath: Black, White, or Bi-Racial?
« Reply #33 on: March 08, 2010, 04:23:42 PM »
Wiggs you know that bi-racial is a polite or PC term for Mulatto? Of course it cam be applied to the half black half Asian (Blasian) or half Asian half white, but typically it came about as a PC term for Mulatto. Because mofos want to tip-toe around the black issue.
He has no choice but to ID himself as black, can you imagine him shakin hands with a black man and the person saying, "What's going on, my brotha?" and Phil says, "Im not black..."

I don't know what white folks obsession with "blackness" and such is. It's like what Josephine Baker said, "White people's imaginations run wild when it comes to Negroes"

Every fucking day, I have to come on to getbig and be reminded that I'm black, or a black man did this or that. And it is usually white folks that always put it up.
Maybe it's subconsciously done because the the sport is dominated by black guys, and the fanbase is dominated by insecure  young white men (same fan base as MMA).

Let me or you put up some thread talking about what the white man did today (start a war, throwing HIV infected needles in the water, etc). Shit wouldn't last at all.

At the end of the day, Phil is black man with a bald head, a wide nose, full lips and light eyes. We can either look at that and judge him or look at the man's guns and use that for motivation to train.

LOL, says the guy who writes multiple paragraph posts about the "white man" and the "black man"  EVERY SINGLE DAY..... ::)

Every time a racial type topic is made I am almost assured "Parker" and G Thang" are on there bitching about something.

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Re: Phil Heath: Black, White, or Bi-Racial?
« Reply #34 on: March 08, 2010, 04:30:26 PM »
LOL, says the guy who writes multiple paragraph posts about the "white man" and the "black man"  EVERY SINGLE DAY..... ::)

Every time a racial type topic is made I am almost assured "Parker" and G Thang" are on there bitching about something.


it's amazing how people only see what they want too...isnt it?  i got more post in the nordic, brasil and fine dime piece tranny threads than anything.  go and count...clown.  u been following around this board...havent you?

next time you make a statement...stupid...go and count the posts under various topics I reply too.


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Re: Phil Heath: Black, White, or Bi-Racial?
« Reply #35 on: March 08, 2010, 04:53:51 PM »
LOL, says the guy who writes multiple paragraph posts about the "white man" and the "black man"  EVERY SINGLE DAY..... ::)

Every time a racial type topic is made I am almost assured "Parker" and G Thang" are on there bitching about something.



So true, but I respect Parker, however, G Thang, that's a different story. He's only good at contributing pics of south american chicks.

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Re: Phil Heath: Black, White, or Bi-Racial?
« Reply #36 on: March 08, 2010, 05:20:13 PM »
LOL, says the guy who writes multiple paragraph posts about the "white man" and the "black man"  EVERY SINGLE DAY..... ::)

Every time a racial type topic is made I am almost assured "Parker" and G Thang" are on there bitching about something.

Poly, read the last paragraph, and your own, if their is a racial topic, who starts it? And what do people say in it? Gee, wonder why I'm in it?

Archer77, if you understand the history of "passing", maybe you might understand what that nurse was saying and others. Becaus a lot of times, black people, especially black women will marry white men to have lighter kids, hoping the kids can pass. I not saying that is the case with your brother and his wife, because I don't know them. Or you have issues later on where the kid doesn't know Jack about who he is, and black folk will tell him. You may not think he looks black, but black folk know oher black folk. There are things Jewish people will tell their own, Chinese, etc. And black people are noo different. There are some things you won't understand, nor your brother. Like black hair care and the like.
But, you also have a thing where, kids will act the opposite of what you want them not to be, a mixed light skinned kid may associate more with the "thug culture", because moms and pops want a proper son, not a "black" son.  Get it? I have many many kids in my family on both sides, all of them were raise with the notion that they are black, no matter how light or how "pretty" their hair is.
You know what happens to the kids who don't get raised that way? They think that they are better than because they are lighter, until one day they have a epiphany, and somebody breaks that shit down to them, like on a GetBig board and calls them a racial slur.

Dr. Chimps, I've actually seen dolls that portray the Indian caste system.

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Re: Phil Heath: Black, White, or Bi-Racial?
« Reply #37 on: March 08, 2010, 05:20:51 PM »
I learn something new from G_thang and Parker every week. With that said, me being white and automatically judged on my point of view due to my skin color. I can tell you blacks really do make a bigger deal about being black than what whites do. I have lived in multiple areas of the country and I have noticed this in most areas. Hell, white folks are really the only ones that have to be careful about what is pc and what isn't.
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Re: Phil Heath: Black, White, or Bi-Racial?
« Reply #38 on: March 08, 2010, 05:33:22 PM »
;D

LMAO

tell that to that idiot Flex Wheeler who keep saying "snow white" when talking about white dudes

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Re: Phil Heath: Black, White, or Bi-Racial?
« Reply #39 on: March 08, 2010, 05:36:37 PM »
Clearly Phil is bi-racial.  


Read here about the one-drop rule....It used to be an actual law.... :o  Being as  race sensitive as America is the "rule" kinda stuck.  Now with America having as many bi-racial people as they do, the rule is starting to crumble. 


By this rule all humans are Africans, given that humanity started there...

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Re: Phil Heath: Black, White, or Bi-Racial?
« Reply #40 on: March 08, 2010, 05:39:11 PM »
By this rule all humans are Africans, given that humanity started there...

So be it, but why are most African countries way behind times????
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Re: Phil Heath: Black, White, or Bi-Racial?
« Reply #41 on: March 08, 2010, 05:40:53 PM »
I learn something new from G_thang and Parker every week. With that said, me being white and automatically judged on my point of view due to my skin color. I can tell you blacks really do make a bigger deal about being black than what whites do. I have lived in multiple areas of the country and I have noticed this in most areas. Hell, white folks are really the only ones that have to be careful about what is pc and what isn't.
I had some very profound shit, but since I got a call on my Iphone that I m posting on, my sssikn expired, now I forgot what the he'll I wrote...motherf......

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Re: Phil Heath: Black, White, or Bi-Racial?
« Reply #42 on: March 08, 2010, 06:04:18 PM »
So be it, but why are most African countries way behind times????

I don't know the answer. Maybe because the Sahara isolated them from most of the developments that took place in the Mediterranean and Arab world over centuries.

In recent times having really bad governments didn't help either...

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Re: Phil Heath: Black, White, or Bi-Racial?
« Reply #43 on: March 08, 2010, 06:11:17 PM »
who cares what race he is


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Re: Phil Heath: Black, White, or Bi-Racial?
« Reply #44 on: March 08, 2010, 06:16:21 PM »
who cares what race he is
Hmm. Good looking guy. Second coming of Ronnie!?  ::)

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Re: Phil Heath: Black, White, or Bi-Racial?
« Reply #45 on: March 08, 2010, 06:19:26 PM »
I don't know the answer. Maybe because the Sahara isolated them from most of the developments that took place in the Mediterranean and Arab world over centuries.

In recent times having really bad governments didn't help either...

How can you explain southern africa then?? They have seemed to develope into modern countries how come the others couldn't follow suite or develope since they have had since man was created???
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Re: Phil Heath: Black, White, or Bi-Racial?
« Reply #46 on: March 08, 2010, 07:00:29 PM »
if Phil is half "black" and half "white" why is he considered "black"?

when people call him "black" do they refer to the colour of his skin or his "race"?

black and white are irrelevant and people should be defined by more than their skin colour

there is only one "race" - the human race



Wow, that's amazing that tens of thousands of years of evolution in drastically different climates had NO effect on anything whatsoever except for skin colour!  Incredible...evolution applies to every organism in nature except for human beings.

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Re: Phil Heath: Black, White, or Bi-Racial?
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Re: Phil Heath: Black, White, or Bi-Racial?
« Reply #48 on: March 08, 2010, 07:20:59 PM »
there is one human race...







divided into  SPECIES... like with all animals...

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Re: Phil Heath: Black, White, or Bi-Racial?
« Reply #49 on: March 08, 2010, 07:22:32 PM »
there is one human race...







divided into  SPECIES... like with all animals...

there can only be one.