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Re: Who was the most jacked wrestler of all time?
« Reply #150 on: March 14, 2010, 10:34:00 PM »
Flair was the best on the mic.  Not even close

Rock was better, but it was all scripted.

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Re: Who was the most jacked wrestler of all time?
« Reply #151 on: March 14, 2010, 11:40:31 PM »
Not jacked, but true Americans nonetheless.


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Re: Who was the most jacked wrestler of all time?
« Reply #152 on: March 15, 2010, 04:59:47 AM »
Rock was better, but it was all scripted.


Thats why Flair was better.....he did everything on his own, there were no writers during his heyday.  His older mic work from 80's was his best.

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Re: Who was the most jacked wrestler of all time?
« Reply #153 on: March 15, 2010, 08:10:37 PM »

You really are clueless and a complete mark to think that the reason Vince would take the belt off of Flair is because he couldn't draw.  Around that time is when the belts, especially the WWF belts, were nothing more than a prop.  It wasn't based off of gates or attendance.  And to compare Steamboat to Flair shows you are some goof who started watching wrestling in the late 80's and is now an "expert."  Flair MADE Steamboat in the mid-atlantic territory.  I was there and saw it on weekly basis. Do a little research before you make a fool of yourself.

HBK, HHH, Austin, Hogan, Benoit, etc... have all said that Ric Flair is the greatest wrestler of all-time, but hey Mr. 1derful knows better than any of those guys.  
And to knock Flair's promo's?  He is by far, the best of all time and nobody else is even close. Ask the guys in the business, and they will all say the same thing, but again Mr. 1derful knows more than they do cause he read somebodys opinion on Flair who had an axe to grind.  I would accuse you of being Scott Steiner, but you sound slightly more intelligent.

 It's so obvious, like I pointed out before, that your nose is so buried in McMahon's ass that you can't see out.

I never knocked Flair's promos, in fact I generally tend to find them pretty entertaining.  Keep in mind that for a time in WCW, Flair was also a head booker.  In 1991, Flair refused to do the honors and drop the title to Barry Windham.  Eventually, Flair showed up in the WWF with the WCW belt and in the process, shamelessly crapped all over the history of the territory that made him.  I've always wondered why he has been given such a free pass on this act.  

Ric has never been able to do anything but his one routine match, which consists of cartoon high spots borrowed from Jackie Fargo, along with an assortment of tired old ripped off Buddy Rogers spots. At a Saturday Night’s Main Event TV taped match in 1992, Flair worked a match with Randy Savage, where he did nothing that he was supposed to in the ring.  Vince ordered the match to be completely re-shot, yet still Ric could not impress.  Ask Randy Savage about Ric Flair's ability as a worker.  Austin has said that Steamboat, not Flair, was the greatest worker he was in the ring with.  Everyone knows that most of the time back in the 80's and early 90's, WCW wrestlers worked in front of empty chairs in empty arenas. Watch Flair's DVD and you'll see exactly that, with Flair having the same match with every opponent.  

Prior to Flair arriving in the WWF, everyone thought he and Hogan would set the world on fire at Wrestlemania VIII .  That clash didn't happen.  They ran a house show with the two main-eventing against each other in Madison Square Garden which didn’t sell out, causing the WWF to abort the feud at that time.  Hogan then went to try his hand at a failed career as an actor, with Flair getting the WWE Championship at the 1992 Royal Rumble.  To suggest that the title belt didn't hold significance in the late 80's and early 90's is false.   Are you suggesting that the company poured money into marketing a champion, without the intent to experience a financial benefit?  Not only do you not have a clue about wrestling, but you are devoid of any business sense.  Flair himself stated that he felt good that the WWF trusted him to carry the company.  Yet, his run was cut short and he was asked to drop the belt after six weeks. He wasn't drawing, which is a historical fact.  Not long after, he left to return to WCW.  

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Re: Who was the most jacked wrestler of all time?
« Reply #154 on: March 15, 2010, 08:32:17 PM »
I never knocked Flair's promos, in fact I generally tend to find them pretty entertaining.  Keep in mind that for a time in WCW, Flair was also a head booker.  In 1991, Flair refused to do the honors and drop the title to Barry Windham.  Eventually, Flair showed up in the WWF with the WCW belt and in the process, shamelessly crapped all over the history of the territory that made him.  I've always wondered why he has been given such a free pass on this act.  

Ric has never been able to do anything but his one routine match, which consists of cartoon high spots borrowed from Jackie Fargo, along with an assortment of tired old ripped off Buddy Rogers spots. At a Saturday Night’s Main Event TV taped match in 1992, Flair worked a match with Randy Savage, where he did nothing that he was supposed to in the ring.  Vince ordered the match to be completely re-shot, yet still Ric could not impress.  Ask Randy Savage about Ric Flair's ability as a worker.  Austin has said that Steamboat, not Flair, was the greatest worker he was in the ring with.  Everyone knows that most of the time back in the 80's and early 90's, WCW wrestlers worked in front of empty chairs in empty arenas. Watch Flair's DVD and you'll see exactly that, with Flair having the same match with every opponent.  

Prior to Flair arriving in the WWF, everyone thought he and Hogan would set the world on fire at Wrestlemania VIII .  That clash didn't happen.  They ran a house show with the two main-eventing against each other in Madison Square Garden which didn’t sell out, causing the WWF to abort the feud at that time.  Hogan then went to try his hand at a failed career as an actor, with Flair getting the WWE Championship at the 1992 Royal Rumble.  To suggest that the title belt didn't hold significance in the late 80's and early 90's is false.   Are you suggesting that the company poured money into marketing a champion, without the intent to experience a financial benefit?  Not only do you not have a clue about wrestling, but you are devoid of any business sense.  Flair himself stated that he felt good that the WWF trusted him to carry the company.  Yet, his run was cut short and he was asked to drop the belt after six weeks. He wasn't drawing, which is a historical fact.  Not long after, he left to return to WCW.  

Flair= Overrated old son of a bitch

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Re: Who was the most jacked wrestler of all time?
« Reply #155 on: March 16, 2010, 12:47:57 AM »
Is there really any argument here? Cena, Luger, Rude all looked good but when I think "jacked" I think of this guy...
 

Isn't that Mike's wife Midajah?

Did her wrestling escort career put the Kibosh on their marriage?

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Re: Who was the most jacked wrestler of all time?
« Reply #156 on: March 16, 2010, 01:10:17 AM »
Isn't that Mike's wife Midajah?

Did her wrestling escort career put the Kibosh on their marriage?

That's her, she's fucking stunning... or at least was 10 years ago..




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Re: Who was the most jacked wrestler of all time?
« Reply #157 on: March 16, 2010, 06:56:59 AM »
I never knocked Flair's promos, in fact I generally tend to find them pretty entertaining.  Keep in mind that for a time in WCW, Flair was also a head booker.  In 1991, Flair refused to do the honors and drop the title to Barry Windham.  Eventually, Flair showed up in the WWF with the WCW belt and in the process, shamelessly crapped all over the history of the territory that made him.  I've always wondered why he has been given such a free pass on this act.  

Ric has never been able to do anything but his one routine match, which consists of cartoon high spots borrowed from Jackie Fargo, along with an assortment of tired old ripped off Buddy Rogers spots. At a Saturday Night’s Main Event TV taped match in 1992, Flair worked a match with Randy Savage, where he did nothing that he was supposed to in the ring.  Vince ordered the match to be completely re-shot, yet still Ric could not impress.  Ask Randy Savage about Ric Flair's ability as a worker.  Austin has said that Steamboat, not Flair, was the greatest worker he was in the ring with.  Everyone knows that most of the time back in the 80's and early 90's, WCW wrestlers worked in front of empty chairs in empty arenas. Watch Flair's DVD and you'll see exactly that, with Flair having the same match with every opponent.  

Prior to Flair arriving in the WWF, everyone thought he and Hogan would set the world on fire at Wrestlemania VIII .  That clash didn't happen.  They ran a house show with the two main-eventing against each other in Madison Square Garden which didn’t sell out, causing the WWF to abort the feud at that time.  Hogan then went to try his hand at a failed career as an actor, with Flair getting the WWE Championship at the 1992 Royal Rumble.  To suggest that the title belt didn't hold significance in the late 80's and early 90's is false.   Are you suggesting that the company poured money into marketing a champion, without the intent to experience a financial benefit?  Not only do you not have a clue about wrestling, but you are devoid of any business sense.  Flair himself stated that he felt good that the WWF trusted him to carry the company.  Yet, his run was cut short and he was asked to drop the belt after six weeks. He wasn't drawing, which is a historical fact.  Not long after, he left to return to WCW.  

Everything you posted just strengthens my contention that you are nothing more than a VKM/WWF mark.  You don't even mention the NWA, my guess is because you know nothing about it, and just harp on the WCW, which I clearly stated was a very, very different organization than the NWA from all standpoints.  You mention Savage....did you know the entire match that was such a classic between him and Steamboat was rehearsed leading up to that match?  I'm sure you didn't.  Flair could work with anybody at the drop of a hat and put them over.  Like I said, talk about Steamboat all you want, he was a fine worker, but Flair MADE him into a star in the mid-atlantic.  I watched it week to week.....you probably read about it on somebodies blog and are now an "expert." 

I'll just leave it at this, and we can agree to disagree.  Guys like Michaels, HHH, Benoit, etc.... think Flair is the best of all-time.  I put their opinion over one internet troll who clearly just watched the cartoonish WWF of the late 80's/early 90's, instead of the NWA during the 80's.


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Re: Who was the most jacked wrestler of all time?
« Reply #158 on: March 16, 2010, 09:03:51 PM »
Everything you posted just strengthens my contention that you are nothing more than a VKM/WWF mark.  You don't even mention the NWA, my guess is because you know nothing about it, and just harp on the WCW, which I clearly stated was a very, very different organization than the NWA from all standpoints.  You mention Savage....did you know the entire match that was such a classic between him and Steamboat was rehearsed leading up to that match?  I'm sure you didn't.  Flair could work with anybody at the drop of a hat and put them over.  Like I said, talk about Steamboat all you want, he was a fine worker, but Flair MADE him into a star in the mid-atlantic.  I watched it week to week.....you probably read about it on somebodies blog and are now an "expert."  

I'll just leave it at this, and we can agree to disagree.  Guys like Michaels, HHH, Benoit, etc.... think Flair is the best of all-time.  I put their opinion over one internet troll who clearly just watched the cartoonish WWF of the late 80's/early 90's, instead of the NWA during the 80's.

You have yet to refute anything I have stated, as you simply can't.  Indeed, the opinions of HHH and HBK, close friends of Flair no less, should be gospel above all else.  Go put your bath robe back on and go "woooing" around your house some more.

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Re: Who was the most jacked wrestler of all time?
« Reply #159 on: March 17, 2010, 07:29:08 AM »
That is correct, he was huge before synthol was even invented. His arms even had the exact same structure/shape. Also, I dont know where anyone even sees signs on synthol on his body. Cutler, Kai, Wolfe all look more synthol induced than Scott ever did. Besides, how is it possible for him to do 120lb dumbell curls if his arms are all synthol??? Dont understand why people completely overlook this guys genetics as well....? Keep the baseless jealous comments coming though they are indeed entertaining in the least.

  That is my opinion. I didn't accuse, I just said he looked it. I'm probably wrong. Also, I can place ahead 100 physiques that I'd rather be jealous of, lol.
 

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Re: Who was the most jacked wrestler of all time?
« Reply #160 on: March 17, 2010, 08:03:16 AM »

Ric Flair is one of the best, hands down.

That being said, I think he should have retired after his impressive match against Big Van Vader at the 93 starcade (?)...that was probably the true peak of his career. After that Hogan came to WcW and Flair was forced to constantly job to him over the next few years, which IMO, he never really recovered from.

I am going to take some flack for this, but I think that Shane Douglas gave the best interviews in Pro Wrestling... he never quite went as far as he should have.


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Re: Who was the most jacked wrestler of all time?
« Reply #161 on: March 17, 2010, 08:06:23 AM »
Flair was great on the Mike but nobody could draw in a crowd like the Rock..Great at adlibbing...


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Re: Who was the most jacked wrestler of all time?
« Reply #162 on: March 17, 2010, 08:08:37 AM »
whatever happened to midajah is what i want to know!?

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Re: Who was the most jacked wrestler of all time?
« Reply #163 on: March 17, 2010, 08:59:42 AM »
Flair was great on the Mike but nobody could draw in a crowd like the Rock..Great at adlibbing...



Yeah that dude could talk. Some of the stuff he used to come out with were outrageously funny

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Re: Who was the most jacked wrestler of all time?
« Reply #164 on: March 17, 2010, 09:00:55 AM »
whatever happened to midajah is what i want to know!?

I think she and mike split up.


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Re: Who was the most jacked wrestler of all time?
« Reply #165 on: March 17, 2010, 12:38:45 PM »
forgot about this earl maynard was an actual two time mr universe and was in a mr olympia contest, so he is the highest titled pro wrassler ever.
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Re: Who was the most jacked wrestler of all time?
« Reply #166 on: March 17, 2010, 12:41:22 PM »
mister barbados earl maynard.
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Re: Who was the most jacked wrestler of all time?
« Reply #167 on: March 18, 2010, 09:05:27 AM »

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Re: Who was the most jacked wrestler of all time?
« Reply #168 on: March 22, 2010, 01:56:07 PM »
I think she and mike split up.



Really is that true? I wonder if it had anything to do with Steiner. Looked like they used to get a little too close sometimes.

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Re: Who was the most jacked wrestler of all time?
« Reply #169 on: March 22, 2010, 02:13:38 PM »
Ric Flair is one of the best, hands down.

That being said, I think he should have retired after his impressive match against Big Van Vader at the 93 starcade (?)...that was probably the true peak of his career. After that Hogan came to WcW and Flair was forced to constantly job to him over the next few years, which IMO, he never really recovered from.

I am going to take some flack for this, but I think that Shane Douglas gave the best interviews in Pro Wrestling... he never quite went as far as he should have.



The Franchise's work in ECW was incredible. 

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Re: Who was the most jacked wrestler of all time?
« Reply #170 on: March 22, 2010, 02:26:03 PM »
The Franchise's work in ECW was incredible. 
douglas drew the most heat in the old ecw, i'll never forget when he shook the pitbulls halo, the fans revolted they had to escort douglas out.
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Re: Who was the most jacked wrestler of all time?
« Reply #171 on: March 22, 2010, 02:33:14 PM »
douglas drew the most heat in the old ecw, i'll never forget when he shook the pitbulls halo, the fans revolted they had to escort douglas out.

He was a perfect fit for that era of the ECW....and his mic work was top notch...

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Re: Who was the most jacked wrestler of all time?
« Reply #172 on: March 22, 2010, 03:50:18 PM »
SUPAFLY JIMMY SNUKA

















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Re: Who was the most jacked wrestler of all time?
« Reply #173 on: March 22, 2010, 04:19:47 PM »
nice I forgot Jimmy

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Re: Who was the most jacked wrestler of all time?
« Reply #174 on: March 22, 2010, 04:21:20 PM »
nice I forgot Jimmy

Do you remember in the old mid-atlantic when Orndorff and Snuka arrived as a tagteam and won the NWA belts?