kyomu looks good,there is a thread about normal lifter compared to a pro bber and it was stated that it was not as freaky difference as one would have thought,well u see paco a pro and kyomu lean 2 side by side and u see the truth,the thread had zack and a normal guy with some bodyfat flex with khan and it stated that the other guy wasn't that blown away.well this proves the point .no chance.