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Re: Obama and the Supreme Court: The next big brawl?
« Reply #75 on: April 21, 2010, 03:33:17 PM »
Obama voted against the confirmation of Alito and Roberts

Both Alito and Roberts share the neocon point of view of George Bush

Thats why Bush II nominated them and why Bush I appointed Roberts as Solicitor General

Only a disingenous or very ignorant person would think otherwise

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Re: Obama and the Supreme Court: The next big brawl?
« Reply #76 on: April 21, 2010, 03:34:48 PM »
Obama voted against the confirmation of Alito and Roberts

Both Alito and Roberts share the neocon point of view of George Bush

Thats why Bush II nominated them and why Bush I appointed Roberts as Solicitor General

Only a disingenous or very ignorant person would think otherwise

What is a "Neocon" Straw?

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Re: Obama and the Supreme Court: The next big brawl?
« Reply #77 on: April 21, 2010, 03:39:39 PM »
bullshit

show me the quotes

and with Stupak it was only one statement and not used as a reason why he should have his job



This is funny.   :)  Read slowly:

Quote

btw - anyone notice how Stupak always has that glazed over, brain dead looks that many fundies also have?


Note the latter part of the sentence that mentions "many fundies."  What a maroon.  lol. . . . .


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Re: Obama and the Supreme Court: The next big brawl?
« Reply #78 on: April 21, 2010, 04:24:13 PM »
This is funny.   :)  Read slowly:
 

Note the latter part of the sentence that mentions "many fundies."  What a maroon.  lol. . . .

So what
It's one quote and I don't make an issue of it in regards to job performance
Besides brains are counterproductive to maintaining a fundie belief system. 
You're a perfect example of that but even if you share that brain dead look I'd never bring it up with regards to your job

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Re: Obama and the Supreme Court: The next big brawl?
« Reply #79 on: April 21, 2010, 04:34:22 PM »
So what
It's one quote and I don't make an issue of it in regards to job performance
Besides brains are counterproductive to maintaining a fundie belief system. 
You're a perfect example of that but even if you share that brain dead look I'd never bring it up with regards to your job

Hysterical!  lol.  To recap:

1.  You essentially called 33 a lousy person for criticizing a person's physical appearance. 

2.  You've done the same thing, as pointed out in this thread.  Criticized Stupak’s physical appearance, which has nothing to do with his political views.   

3.  You denied criticizing the physical appearance of many religious people.

4.  When shown your owns words where you criticized the physical appearance of “many” religious people, you say it's only "one quote."  LOL. 

Is your little brain tied in knots?     :D

O.K.  I'm done slapping you around.   :) 

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Re: Obama and the Supreme Court: The next big brawl?
« Reply #80 on: April 21, 2010, 07:13:26 PM »
Hysterical!  lol.  To recap:

1.  You essentially called 33 a lousy person for criticizing a person's physical appearance.  

2.  You've done the same thing, as pointed out in this thread.  Criticized Stupak’s physical appearance, which has nothing to do with his political views.    

3.  You denied criticizing the physical appearance of many religious people.

4.  When shown your owns words where you criticized the physical appearance of “many” religious people, you say it's only "one quote."  LOL.  

Is your little brain tied in knots?     :D

O.K.  I'm done slapping you around.   :)  


The only thing you slap around is your pecker (and hopefully not while you’re showering with your son)

I’ll try to make this easy for even a moron like you to understand.   My comment about Stupak was the last comment in a 6 page thread where you will find preceding comments by me on the substance of Stupaks hypocritical and braindead stance on abortion and the healthcare legislation.   Calling him braindead was an apt description of his actions and his position on the topic at hand.
I don’t expect you to take my word for it so here the link and you can see if that statement is true or not:  
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=294998.0

In the example of this woman (Kagan) she has done nothing  except have her name mentioned in the media as a potential SC nominee and the first and only comments by 333 and you were derisive.   There is no substantive criticism or comment and only comments about her appearance and veiled innuendo about her sexuality.

Go back and read this thread and you’ll see what I mean (well you’ll see it but no doubt you won’t understand).
1rst comment but 333:  
Another Bull Dyke who looks like Jaba the Hut.  What is it with Liberals and their love of fat ugly nasty lesibians?
Next comment by 33:  
She looks like Rufus the Butcher down the street.  
Your response:  
lol   :D
Next comment by you:  
Is she married?
Next comment by 333:  
Yeah, to the refrigerator and Salvation Army clothing bin.  
Your response:  
Doh!  That's just wrong.  lol . . . .
Do you see the difference??
Of course you don’t but it’s obvious
The first thing you and 333 do is laugh about her appearance and you haven’t, as of yet made one comment about her points  of view, qualifications, etc….

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Re: Obama and the Supreme Court: The next big brawl?
« Reply #81 on: April 21, 2010, 07:19:47 PM »
Right, and you guys didnt mock palin for similiarly stupid reasons?  ::)  ::)  ::)

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Re: Obama and the Supreme Court: The next big brawl?
« Reply #82 on: April 21, 2010, 07:28:17 PM »
lol.  What a dunce. 

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Re: Obama and the Supreme Court: The next big brawl?
« Reply #83 on: April 22, 2010, 09:33:31 AM »
lol.  What a dunce. 

the facts speak for themself

I made a comment at the end of a 6 page thread where I criticized the words and deeds of a Stupak pointing out repeatedly that he was both ignorant and a hypocrite.  There was nothing left to say except that he was a brain dead fundie (like you).

This thread brought up Kagan.  Someone who has said and done nothing regarding her potential nomination and the first and only thing you and 333 do is ridicule her looks, weight, sexual orienation, etc...   Neither of you made one comment of substance on her record, her writing, etc...   It was first and only ridicule of her looks, etc...

The real irony is that you're the person who posted that NewsMax article pretending that the Left doesn't like Bachman or Palin because they are attractive women when people left, right and center criticize those two fundie dingbats for their words and deeds.

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Re: Obama and the Supreme Court: The next big brawl?
« Reply #84 on: April 22, 2010, 09:38:26 AM »
Fine Straw - she is a POFS for her stance on ROTC.  Is that good enough for you? 

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Re: Obama and the Supreme Court: The next big brawl?
« Reply #85 on: April 22, 2010, 11:26:28 AM »
the facts speak for themself

I made a comment at the end of a 6 page thread where I criticized the words and deeds of a Stupak pointing out repeatedly that he was both ignorant and a hypocrite.  There was nothing left to say except that he was a brain dead fundie (like you).

This thread brought up Kagan.  Someone who has said and done nothing regarding her potential nomination and the first and only thing you and 333 do is ridicule her looks, weight, sexual orienation, etc...   Neither of you made one comment of substance on her record, her writing, etc...   It was first and only ridicule of her looks, etc...

The real irony is that you're the person who posted that NewsMax article pretending that the Left doesn't like Bachman or Palin because they are attractive women when people left, right and center criticize those two fundie dingbats for their words and deeds.


Straw Man, as I have repeatedly said on this board, I don't believe you're very bright.  I really have nothing more to add.   :)

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Re: Obama and the Supreme Court: The next big brawl?
« Reply #86 on: April 22, 2010, 11:28:39 AM »
Straw Man, as I have repeatedly said on this board, I don't believe you're very bright.  I really have nothing more to add.   :)

believe whatever you want

I KNOW you're a moron

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Re: Obama and the Supreme Court: The next big brawl?
« Reply #87 on: April 22, 2010, 11:31:51 AM »
lol.    :-*

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Re: Obama and the Supreme Court: The next big brawl?
« Reply #88 on: April 22, 2010, 11:35:35 AM »
believe whatever you want

I KNOW you're a moron

Straw - are you ok with her ROTC position?

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Re: Obama and the Supreme Court: The next big brawl?
« Reply #89 on: April 22, 2010, 11:36:53 AM »
Straw - are you ok with her ROTC position?

beats me

you haven't told me what it is and what your problem with it is

for all I know I might agree with you

it's been known to happen

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Re: Obama and the Supreme Court: The next big brawl?
« Reply #90 on: April 22, 2010, 11:44:33 AM »
Elena Kagan's Achilles' Heel
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US Solicitor General Elena Kagan prepares to address the forum at Georgetown University Law Center in …
Peter Beinart – Mon Apr 19, 7:40 am ET

NEW YORK – Obama’s potential Supreme Court pick banned military recruiting at Harvard Law. Peter Beinart on how that stance has damaged liberals—and why conservatives are right to bash her for it.

President Obama is about to nominate someone for the Supreme Court. On the day he or she is unveiled, conservatives will announce that they are approaching the selection with an open mind. Ten minutes later they will declare, more in sadness than anger, that the nominee has the judicial philosophy of Chairman Mao and the temperament of Dennis Rodman. Ten minutes after that, liberals will rise en masse to defend the nominee as wise, brilliant and humane, a person who restores our faith in humankind. And the kabuki theater will continue like that all summer long.

I can’t blame my fellow liberals for playing along; if the other side fires, we have to fire back. But there’s one exception. If Solicitor General Elana Kagan gets the nod, conservatives will beat the hell out of her for opposing military recruitment on campus when she was dean of Harvard Law School. And liberals should concede the point; the conservatives will be right.

Barring the military from campus is a bit like barring the president or even the flag. It’s more than a statement of criticism; it’s a statement of national estrangement.

“I abhor the military’s discriminatory recruitment policy,” wrote Kagan in 2003. It is “a profound wrong—a moral injustice of the first order.” So far, so good. Not allowing openly gay and lesbian Americans into the military is a grave moral injustice and it is a disgrace that so many Republicans defend the policy to this day. But the response that Kagan favored banning military recruiters from campus—was stupid and counterproductive. I think it showed bad judgment.

The United States military is not Procter and Gamble. It is not just another employer. It is the institution whose members risk their lives to protect the country. You can disagree with the policies of the American military; you can even hate them, but you can’t alienate yourself from the institution without in a certain sense alienating yourself from the country. Barring the military from campus is a bit like barring the president or even the flag. It’s more than a statement of criticism; it’s a statement of national estrangement.

• Linda Hirshman: Sexual Orientation and the Supreme CourtI doubt that’s how Kagan or her fellow administrators meant it. But it is certainly the way it has been received. It’s no coincidence that most Ivy League schools banned ROTC in the late 1960s, at exactly the moment liberalism was committing hara-kiri. The perception that liberals are unpatriotic stems from that moment in time and from actions just like that. And while the charge is and always has been unfair, banning recruiters from campus does suggest a somewhat impoverished understanding of patriotism. Yes, dissent is patriotic, as liberals love to declaim, but assent is an important part of patriotism too. Saying you show your love for your country only through criticism is like saying you show your love for your spouse only through criticism. It isn’t likely to go over well.

And it hasn’t. Banning the military from elite campuses hasn’t only helped generations of Nixons, Atwaters and Roves beat Democrats at the polls; it has also helped create a military that stands firmly on the red side of the culture war. As Michael Neiberg shows in his 2001 book, Making Citizen-Soldiers, the Ivy League administrators of the early 20th Century believed ROTC served a fundamentally liberal purpose. It infused the military with the spirit of intellectual openness found in the academy and thus “prevent[ed] the creation” of a narrow, isolated “military caste.” Today, thanks to administrators like Kagan, however, the military recruits mostly on the campuses of the South and West, and thus, the officer corps has become overwhelmingly Republican. The best way for Ivy League liberals to remedy anti-gay discrimination in the military—and to infuse it with liberal values more generally—would be to encourage the military to recruit from among their ranks, as those administrators urged a century ago. Instead, actions like Kagan’s have helped make the Ivy League and the military separate and sometimes hostile worlds, and both have suffered as a result.

Were Kagan to be passed over for the Supreme Court because of her views on military recruitment, many liberals would likely consider it unfair. But it would make ambitious Ivy League administrators think twice because succumbing to the left-wing mindlessness that sometimes prevails on campus. And it would further one of President Obama’s signature efforts: his bid to draw America’s almost half-century long culture war to a close. If that requires conceding that conservatives are right about something, so be it. I’m sure it won’t happen again anytime soon.

Peter Beinart, senior political writer for The Daily Beast, is associate professor of journalism and political science at City University of New York and a senior fellow at the New America Foundation. His new book, Twitter and Facebook.

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Re: Obama and the Supreme Court: The next big brawl?
« Reply #91 on: April 22, 2010, 12:13:32 PM »
333  - I'd have to look at this some more before I decided how I felt about it.

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Re: Obama and the Supreme Court: The next big brawl?
« Reply #92 on: April 22, 2010, 12:15:14 PM »
333  - I'd have to look at this some more before I decided how I felt about it.

I posted a song you will like on my political music thread. 

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Re: Obama and the Supreme Court: The next big brawl?
« Reply #93 on: April 22, 2010, 10:05:10 PM »
Democrats Aim to Tap Populist Anger in High-Court Fight
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In this Sept. 29, 2009, file photo Associate Justice John Paul Stevens sits for a group photograph at the Supreme Court in Washington. (AP Photo)

WASHINGTON—Democrats looking ahead to confirmation hearings for the next Supreme Court justice are hoping to put the court itself on trial in an attempt to ride populist anger about the economy.

In recent decades it has typically been Republicans who have made outrage at the court an issue. Dating back to Richard Nixon, they have stoked conservative anger at decisions on such matters as abortion, school prayer and criminal procedure.

Democrats preparing for the possibly contentious debate over a successor for departing Justice John Paul Stevens say that under Chief Justice John Roberts, the court has stacked the deck against ordinary Americans.

The touchstone of the Democratic strategy is the court's January ruling in Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission, which struck down restrictions on corporate spending on election campaigns. Democrats cite polls showing broad public disapproval of the ruling as evidence of growing anxiety about the court's direction.

"People are very concerned," Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Patrick Leahy (D., Vt.) said in an interview. The Roberts court has displayed a pattern of "decisions by a slim, activist, conservative majority" that have "misconstrued laws designed to protect the American people, tilting the scales of justice in favor of corporate rights," Leahy said Wednesday after discussing the court vacancy with President Barack. Obama.

Business groups and Republicans say Democrats are distorting the court's record. Robin Conrad, who heads the U.S. Chamber of Commerce's litigation arm, noted that the Roberts court has sometimes ruled against business, as in decisions that let patients sue drug makers over defective products and that allowed workers to sue employers in some instances.

Most such decisions came when Justice Anthony Kennedy, a conservative who typically holds the swing vote, joined Justice Stevens and three other liberals to form a bare majority.

Continue reading at The Wall Street Journal

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/04/23/democrats-aim-tap-populist-anger-high-court-fight/

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Re: Obama and the Supreme Court: The next big brawl?
« Reply #94 on: April 23, 2010, 07:46:29 AM »
Hysterical!  lol.  To recap:

1.  You essentially called 33 a lousy person for criticizing a person's physical appearance. 

2.  You've done the same thing, as pointed out in this thread.  Criticized Stupak’s physical appearance, which has nothing to do with his political views.   

3.  You denied criticizing the physical appearance of many religious people.

4.  When shown your owns words where you criticized the physical appearance of “many” religious people, you say it's only "one quote."  LOL. 

Is your little brain tied in knots?     :D

O.K.  I'm done slapping you around.   :) 



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Re: Obama and the Supreme Court: The next big brawl?
« Reply #95 on: April 23, 2010, 08:58:10 AM »
Hysterical!  lol.  To recap:

1.  You essentially called 33 a lousy person for criticizing a person's physical appearance. 

2.  You've done the same thing, as pointed out in this thread.  Criticized Stupak’s physical appearance, which has nothing to do with his political views.   

3.  You denied criticizing the physical appearance of many religious people.

4.  When shown your owns words where you criticized the physical appearance of “many” religious people, you say it's only "one quote."  LOL. 

Is your little brain tied in knots?     :D

O.K.  I'm done slapping you around.   :) 

careful beach he will tell you its not hypocritical if he is ok with them making fun of him... ;D

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Re: Obama and the Supreme Court: The next big brawl?
« Reply #96 on: April 23, 2010, 10:07:32 AM »
I'm OK with making fun of anyone but if it's the FIRST and ONLY thing you've got then face up to that fact

I have to say it's weird that right wingers keep talking about how "hot" Palin and Bachmann are as if that has some significance and then pretending that people on the left (and right and center) don't take them seriously because they are hot.

People don't take them seriously and criticize them for their words and deeds...... period

Pretending it's because they are attractive is laughable and even more so because Repubs are the one's who make an issue out of looks.

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Re: Obama and the Supreme Court: The next big brawl?
« Reply #97 on: April 23, 2010, 10:36:08 AM »
I'm OK with making fun of anyone but if it's the FIRST and ONLY thing you've got then face up to that fact

I have to say it's weird that right wingers keep talking about how "hot" Palin and Bachmann are as if that has some significance and then pretending that people on the left (and right and center) don't take them seriously because they are hot.

People don't take them seriously and criticize them for their words and deeds...... period

Pretending it's because they are attractive is laughable and even more so because Repubs are the one's who make an issue out of looks.

I have to say its funny that you dont understand the term hypocrite

2 : a person who acts in contradiction to his or her stated beliefs or feelings

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Re: Obama and the Supreme Court: The next big brawl?
« Reply #98 on: April 23, 2010, 10:49:48 AM »
I have to say its funny that you dont understand the term hypocrite

2 : a person who acts in contradiction to his or her stated beliefs or feelings

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let's see it

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Re: Obama and the Supreme Court: The next big brawl?
« Reply #99 on: April 23, 2010, 10:53:06 AM »
let's see it
You think believing in God is silly b/c there is no evidence...

you dont believe in God even though there is no evidence to say he doesnt exist...

LMAO  :D