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This is week two of my diet.  Last week I did a low/no carb thing and of course had zero energy.  By Sunday night I just wanted to quit.  As a cheat meal I had 3 grab bags of 3rd degree hot Doritos (Hot as fuck and great tasting).

I decided I didn't want to diet on no carbs.  So Monday I reintroduced carbs and am doing better.  I started out at 258 lbs on Mar 8.  As of This morning Mar 17th I was 253lbs a 5lb loss in 10 days with carbs still in me. Not too bad.  I had my bodyfat tested yesterday morning I was 254lbs at 26.5% bf.  I told my coach my goal was 10% bf.  That would put me at 207 lbs and I'd be in incredible shape.

Based on that my Basal Metabolic Rate or BMR is 2201.6 calories.  This is the amount of calories I'd burn if I never got out of bed. My Total Daily Energy Expenditure or TDEE is 3412 calories.  Meaning the amount of calories i burn based on my lifestyle.  So he is having me to eat 2900 calories to lose weight.  I'm going a little lower to 2730 to eat less food.  I'm not a big eater.  I'm eating 326 g of protein 253 g of carbs and 64 g of fats.  I drink two protein shakes a day as meal replacements and have a maltodextrin carb shake post workout with 50 g of carbs.  I don't eat any carbs within 3 hours of sleep even if it means deviating from the diet.

I do cardio 2 x per day.  45 min in the morning prior to eating and 30 min after workout.  I also do ECA 3 x per day 25 mg ephedrine, 200 mg caffine and 80 mg asprine.  I'm on 50 mcg of t-3 and will ramp that up to 150 mcg of t-3 over the course of 8 weeks.  I've never had any problem with losing muscle from t-3.  I will swtich from ECA to clen around the 6 week point to change things up.  No juice, no GH.

I just want to eat some fucking chips and sleep....FUUCCCCCCCCCCCC CCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCC CCCCKKKKK THISSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!! FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCK.. .
It's either this or continue to be fat. :'(
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Re: This fucking diet is driving me fuckin nuts. Jeezus!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2010, 02:47:16 PM »
You wanna know how to get ripped and still eat whatever you want?
And ditch cardio too?

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« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2010, 02:52:01 PM »
You wanna know how to get ripped and still eat whatever you want?

Don't wanna hear your crazy bullshit...
Yeah I know I can eat pie and icecream and burgers, problem is my blood pressure and lips profile would be fucked up and yeah I may lose weight but I'll be skinnyfat.  Because what you tell people will spike their insulin levels and cause the body to store that excess glucose as fat.  You say as long as you get in what the body needs you can eat anything else...Problem with that is there won't be room for much else.

Your theory is filled with holes.
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« Reply #3 on: March 17, 2010, 02:54:32 PM »
Wiggs, you're nuts to use t-3 without running at least some test.  Even a dose of 25mcg per day can be catabolic unless you're running some AAS. 

I've never been a fan of the "no carb" diet, but since that's what you're trying out, I'd look into Palumbo's Keto.  After a few days, you don't feel like shit because your body learns to use the fats you take in as its source of energy.  Still, I feel as though this diet can also be catabolic and don't recommend it without AAS.  I haven't seen any pics of you (no homo) so I'm kind of generalizing here. 

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« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2010, 02:58:04 PM »
Don't wanna hear your crazy bullshit...

1.) Yeah I know I can eat pie and icecream and burgers, problem is my blood pressure and lips profile would be fucked up

2.) and yeah I may lose weight but I'll be skinnyfat.  

3.) Because what you tell people will spike their insulin levels and cause the body to store that excess glucose as fat.  

4.) You say as long as you get in what the body needs you can eat anything else...Problem with that is there won't be room for much else.

5.) Your theory is filled with holes.

1.) You don't need to eat only that.

2.) No, your body composition would be optimal, probably even better than on your current diet.

3.) Not true. There is absolutely no scientific evidence that would support that notion. It's BS bro-science.

4.) That's because you eat way too much protein.

5.) No, it's 100% solid.

Just trying to help.

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« Reply #5 on: March 17, 2010, 02:59:25 PM »
Wiggs, you're nuts to use t-3 without running at least some test.  Even a dose of 25mcg per day can be catabolic unless you're running some AAS. 

I've never been a fan of the "no carb" diet, but since that's what you're trying out, I'd look into Palumbo's Keto.  After a few days, you don't feel like shit because your body learns to use the fats you take in as its source of energy.  Still, I feel as though this diet can also be catabolic and don't recommend it without AAS.  I haven't seen any pics of you (no homo) so I'm kind of generalizing here. 

I've never had a problem with losing muscle in the past.  Guess I'm lucky.  I'm no longer doing the low carb, that was last week now  can have up to 253 g carbs per day.  I won't be eating that many, I'm not a big fan of complex carbs only good tasting simple ones :P  As I continue to have my bf tested if I notice I'm losing muscle, I'll chill or cut back but I'm not juicing.
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« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2010, 03:01:23 PM »
It all looks good.If you increase your cardio you could add a few more cals but with low energy you probably won't want to do this or you could try a punch in the nutts and Hardin the Fuck Up.

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« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2010, 03:02:00 PM »
I say ditch the low carb bullshit I think the diet is total crap. The weight you lost is mostly water. You're at 26%? Dude, there is no reason you can't get to 10% eating more sensible. Just keep calorie deprivation and be patient.

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« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2010, 03:02:32 PM »
1.) You don't need to eat only that.

2.) No, your body composition would be optimal, probably even better than on your current diet.

3.) Not true. There is absolutely no scientific evidence that would support that notion. It's BS bro-science.

4.) That's because you eat way too much protein.

5.) No, it's 100% solid.

Just trying to help.

Do you give seminars anywhere around Vienna?

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« Reply #9 on: March 17, 2010, 03:03:42 PM »
 :o

that's alotta stuff n you still that heavy.  i relocated and went from 238 - 215 in about 4 mths eating whatever i wanted but pretty clean 5 days a week.  is you metabolism like a sloth?

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« Reply #10 on: March 17, 2010, 03:05:06 PM »
High volume cal sparse foods.  You could stuff yourself like a pinata and not reach 2500 cals and have stable bloodsugar all day.  Veggies, lentils, lean proteins.  Drawback is the inconvenience of frequent meals and comparatively boring food.

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« Reply #11 on: March 17, 2010, 03:06:00 PM »
It's not bro-science.  Read ANY SCIENCE BOOK.  When the body breaks down carbs into glucose and your glycogen levels are full excess is stored as fat.
So tell me Mr. Science what happens to the body when a person sits and eats 300g of carbs in one sitting.  Break that down for me and tell me what happens...This I want to hear.
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« Reply #12 on: March 17, 2010, 03:06:25 PM »
Do you give seminars anywhere around Vienna?

That would be the shortest fat loss seminar ever:

Eat less!

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« Reply #13 on: March 17, 2010, 03:07:26 PM »
:o

that's alotta stuff n you still that heavy.  i relocated and went from 238 - 215 in about 4 mths eating whatever i wanted but pretty clean 5 days a week.  is you metabolism like a sloth?

I just started last Monday.
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« Reply #14 on: March 17, 2010, 03:07:55 PM »
It's not bro-science.  Read ANY SCIENCE BOOK.  When the body breaks down carbs into glucose and your glycogen levels are full excess is stored as fat.
So tell Mr. Science what happens to the body when a person sits and eats 300g of carbs in one sitting.  Break that down for me and tell me what happens...This I want to hear.

If he is in an overall deficit, eats enough protein and performs intense strength training, he will lose fat that day.

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« Reply #15 on: March 17, 2010, 03:08:26 PM »
That would be the shortest fat loss seminar ever:

Eat less!

That's what they also say at the Weight Watchers seminars, still they all look like huge piles of horse shit.

hmm....

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« Reply #16 on: March 17, 2010, 03:09:39 PM »
I say ditch the low carb bullshit I think the diet is total crap. The weight you lost is mostly water. You're at 26%? Dude, there is no reason you can't get to 10% eating more sensible. Just keep calorie deprivation and be patient.

Wiggs, you're at 26% b.f?   :-\  If so, I'd strongly recommend you start on the Keto diet without the t3.  Use the ECA stack or some clen if you must... 

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« Reply #17 on: March 17, 2010, 03:10:30 PM »
That's what they also say at the Weight Watchers seminars, still they all look like huge piles of horse shit.

hmm....

If they would actually eat less, they would lose weight.
To mainly lose fat, just add the other two rules: enough protein and strength training.

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« Reply #18 on: March 17, 2010, 03:14:55 PM »
Wiggs, have you ever been in shape during the course of your life?  I sincerely doubt you've ever been close to ripped.  This getting ripped shit is way too hard for you.

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« Reply #19 on: March 17, 2010, 03:18:01 PM »
It's either this or continue to be fat. :'(
Time for meal three :-X :'(

Why don't you ask Kai for some diet advice? I take the liberty to assume you still talk to him?











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« Reply #20 on: March 17, 2010, 03:22:21 PM »
If he is in an overall deficit, eats enough protein and performs intense strength training, he will lose fat that day.

Bullshit...Eating less and losing excess body fat do not automatically go hand in hand. Low calorie, high carb diets generate a series of biochemical signals in your body that will take you out of the balance, making it more difficult to access stored body fat for energy. Result: you'll reach a weight-loss plateau, beyond which you simply can't lose any more weight.

Once the glycogen levels are filled in both the liver and the muscles, excess carbohydrates have just one fate: to be converted into fat and stored in the adipose, that is, fatty, tissue. In a nutshell, even though carbohydrates themselves are fat-free, excess carbohydrates ends up as excess fat. That's not the worst of it. Any meal or snack high in carbohydrates will generate a rapid rise in blood glucose.

The problem is that insulin is essentially a storage hormone, evolved to put aside excess carbohydrate calories in the form of fat in case of future famine. So the insulin that's stimulated by excess carbohydrates aggressively promotes the accumulation of body fat. In other words, when we eat too much carbohydrate, we're essentially sending a hormonal message, via insulin, to the body (actually, to the adipose cells). The message: "Store fat."

Not only do increased insulin levels tell the body to store carbohydrates as fat, they also tell it not to release any stored fat. This makes it impossible for you to use your own stored body fat for energy. So the excess carbohydrates in your diet not only make you fat, they make sure you stay fat. It's a double whammy, and it can be lethal.

Insulin is released by the pancreas after you eat carbohydrates. This causes a rise in blood sugar. Insulin assures your cells receive some blood sugar necessary for life, and increases glycogen storage. However, it also drives your body to use more carbohydrate, and less fat, as fuel. And, insulin converts almost half of your dietary carbohydrate to fat for storage. If you want to use more fats for energy, the insulin response must be moderated. Diets high in refined sugars release more insulin thereby allowing less stored fat to be burned. High insulin levels also suppress two important hormones: glucagon and growth hormone. Glucagon promotes the burning of fat and sugar. Growth hormone is used for muscle development and building new muscle mass.

Insulin also causes hunger. As blood sugar increases following a carbohydrate meal, insulin rises with the eventual result of lower blood sugar. This results in hunger, often only a couple of hours (or less) after the meal. Cravings, usually for sweets, are frequently part of this cycle, leading you to resort to snacking, often on more carbohydrates. Not eating makes you feel ravenous shaky, moody and ready to "crash." If the problem is chronic, you never get rid of that extra stored fat, and your energy is adversely affected.

This aint bro-science...This is fact.  Look it up.  Where is your proof in what you're saying?

BTW the above are not my words...taken from Dr. Joseph Mercola, 1443 W.Schaumburg, Schaumburg, IL 60194-4065
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« Reply #21 on: March 17, 2010, 03:27:36 PM »
do less cardio, i think it just increases appetite

why so much protein?  i don't think muscle comes off as easily as flex magazine wants us to think

maybe it's all in your head, you're so used to eating whatever you want restricting yourself a bit is making you feel "starved"

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« Reply #22 on: March 17, 2010, 03:29:36 PM »
do less cardio, i think it just increases appetite

why so much protein?  i don't think muscle comes off as easily as flex magazine wants us to think

maybe it's all in your head, you're so used to eating whatever you want restricting yourself a bit is making you feel "starved"

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You are correct.  I think it is entirely too much protein.  I think 1lb per lb of lean bodyweight is enough for nattys so for me that would be 186 g so I'll go with 200 g per day. 326 is alot....Yes I agree.
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« Reply #23 on: March 17, 2010, 03:33:48 PM »
Wiggs, have you ever been in shape during the course of your life?  I sincerely doubt you've ever been close to ripped.  This getting ripped shit is way too hard for you.

The last time I was "ripped" was May of 2000 when I did my show.  I had no clue what I was doing I looked like shit to be on stage and was around 8% bf.
That's usually because I get to around 225-235 and end up quiting out of laziness. Not this time.
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« Reply #24 on: March 17, 2010, 03:33:56 PM »
So he is having me to eat 2900 calories to lose weight.  I'm going a little lower to 2730 to eat less food.  I'm not a big eater.  I'm eating 326 g of protein 253 g of carbs and 64 g of fats.  I drink two protein shakes a day as meal replacements and have a maltodextrin carb shake post workout with 50 g of carbs.  

Isnt 2730 to 2900 calories per day kinda high if you're trying to drop 40 lbs?  You can probably drop it to 2000-2200 and cut out the ECA + T3 and lose more weight than you would with the extra 700 calories per day + T3 and ECA.

Or you can keep the ECA and T3 and just drop your daily calories by 700 and that's an extra lb lost every five days (5 x 700 = 3500 calories = 1 lb), and you'll get to your 40 lb goal faster.