Obama Was Dishonest About "Hope and Change"

[BodyProSite]

everything out of bam bams mouth is a lie,  and pelosi and reid too ,   no surprise anymore

[Straw Man]

He never was interested in bi-partisanship.  Thats pure nonsense.  He stacked the deck from day one to where no GOP rep could possibly ever go along with him and now people wonder why?  GMAFB!  

Imagine if McCain one and was trying health care and in the bill he banned abortions, banned gay sex, banned interracial marriage, and then asked the Dems to work with him on other stuff.

This is the same thing.  Obama put through so many reckeless, irresponsible, radical, and insane provisions in this health care mess that for him to expect any GOP to work with him is just stupid.  

He should just be honest, admit he is a marxist, like every thing about his history, past and present shows, and get it over with.  

bipartisanship is a pretty self explanatory concept but it seems like most Repubs are simply too stupid to understand how it work (or more likely know exactly how it works and simply don't give a shit)

Listen to your chosen leader as he explains how bipartisanship works:

"But here's the point that I made to John Boehner and Mitch McConnell: Bipartisanship can't be that I agree to all the things that they believe in or want, and they agree to none of the things I believe in and want, and that's the price of bipartisanship, right? But that's sometimes the way it gets presented. Mitch McConnell said something very nice in the meeting about how he supports our goals on nuclear energy and clean coal technology and more drilling to increase oil production. Well, of course he likes that; that's part of the Republican agenda for energy, which I accept. And I'm willing to move off some of the preferences of my party in order to meet them halfway. But there's got to be some give from their side as well. That's true on health care; that's true on energy; that's true on financial reform. That's what I'm hoping gets accomplished at the summit."

[Soul Crusher]

bipartisanship is a pretty self explanatory concept but it seems like most Repubs are simply too stupid to understand how it work (or more likely know exactly how it works and simply don't give a shit)

Listen to your chosen leader as he explains how bipartisanship works:

"But here's the point that I made to John Boehner and Mitch McConnell: Bipartisanship can't be that I agree to all the things that they believe in or want, and they agree to none of the things I believe in and want, and that's the price of bipartisanship, right? But that's sometimes the way it gets presented. Mitch McConnell said something very nice in the meeting about how he supports our goals on nuclear energy and clean coal technology and more drilling to increase oil production. Well, of course he likes that; that's part of the Republican agenda for energy, which I accept. And I'm willing to move off some of the preferences of my party in order to meet them halfway. But there's got to be some give from their side as well. That's true on health care; that's true on energy; that's true on financial reform. That's what I'm hoping gets accomplished at the summit."

Again he lies so blatantly you cant even see it.  On the one hand he makes those statements, and then the next day you read that he banned off shore drilling for the term he is in congress and shut off funding for Yuca mountain. 

Actions, not words Straw.  Look at what this asshole does, not what he says and you will get a clue. 

Remember this speech Hillary gave?  She was dead right about Obama from day one and people like yourself were too caught up in your school girl crushes to realize it. 

[Straw Man]

Yes!  Straw - what you need to realize is that many of us did not like Bush and his phoney crap either.  To us he was far better than Gore, but still a shithead nevertheless.     

I bet most of this country would like a redo of 2000 thru 2008 with Gore as POTUS

[Dos Equis]

Actions, not words Straw.  Look at what this asshole does, not what he says and you will get a clue. 

Ding!  Someone gets it. 

[Soul Crusher]

I bet most of this country would like a redo of 2000 thru 2008 with Gore as POTUS

And the same will be said after another year of obama once he tries to ram amnesty and crap & tax through.  

[BodyProSite]

well he is changing, he didnt lie about that,  he said he was gona fundimentaly transform america,  he just forgot to mention what he wanted to change to ..  

[OzmO]

Ozmo - there is a lot more going on here than just a Dem. Health Bill.  This monstrosity is about something far bigger, CONTROLLING YOUR LIFE! 

Do you realize the IRS is in charge of enforcing the most important aspect of this bill?  Do you even realize how invasive this is going to be when you have the IRS busting your balls checking out your health insurance and related issues?   

No, No, No, I get it.  This is one smooth operator in the white house.  Mandatory universal health care.  I'd rather have real health care reform, not compulsorily mod style health care.

[Soul Crusher]

No, No, No, I get it.  This is one smooth operator in the white house.  Mandatory universal health care.  I'd rather have real health care reform, not compulsorily mod style health care.

Isnt it a little hypoctrical for Obama on the hand to scream about all the evils of the insurance carriers on the one hand, yet on the other hand FORCE AND MANDATE us to purchase insurance from these very same companies under threat of penalty, jail, and IRS tactics? 

How anyone does not see the unbelievable hypocrisy of this is beyond me.   

[BodyProSite]

333  its ok for liberal/ commies to create double standards,  its ok!!!

[240 is Back]

'No, No, No, I get it.  This is one smooth operator in the white house. "

Sorry, but on getbig, Obama was declared incompetent on day 1, and everyone just KNEW he'd never accomplish anything as president.

Now, as this POS bill passes, they end the victory party they've had for a year and maybe start thinking about

1) Finding a few REAL voices for the party
2) Offering ALTERNATIVE LEGISLATION to things like pollution and border control.

But, instead, morons will continue to just poo=poo anything obama does without any real solutions of their own.  And when crap/trade and amnesty passes, they'll stand pround in the fact this do-nothing president can't get anything done...

[Skip8282]

Actions, not words Straw.  Look at what this asshole does, not what he says and you will get a clue. 

33 Handing out another beatdown!!

[Straw Man]

Again he lies so blatantly you cant even see it.  On the one hand he makes those statements, and then the next day you read that he banned off shore drilling for the term he is in congress and shut off funding for Yuca mountain. 

Actions, not words Straw.  Look at what this asshole does, not what he says and you will get a clue. 

Remember this speech Hillary gave?  She was dead right about Obama from day one and people like yourself were too caught up in your school girl crushes to realize it. 

what was the so called lie she was talking about?

How'd that campaign turn out again?

[Soul Crusher]

WTF does that have to do with her pointing out the truth that Obama gives speeches filled with lies and does the complete opposite the minute the teleprompter is turned off?

[BodyProSite]

he trying to change the subject 333  cause he knows bam bam is a lieing sack of cow shit

[Straw Man]

WTF does that have to do with her pointing out the truth that Obama gives speeches filled with lies and does the complete opposite the minute the teleprompter is turned off?

aren't you trying make the point that Obama lied?

I asked you what lie Hilary is talking about.

how is that changing the topic

why do you constantly post short little clips taken out of context

I have no clue what Clinton is talking about or if she is even telling the truth

[George Whorewell]

What most of you people do not grasp is that the fundamental features of the healthcare bill are so skewed towards an ultra leftist  political premise, that no republican with an ounce of self respect and half a brain cell could in good conscience vote for Obamacare in its current form.

The concessions ( if you can even call them concessions) made by the democrats have been so few and so irrelevant that it is at best dishonest, and at worst stupid to call the compromises which have been proposed a "bi partisan" effort.

A final point many of you are ignoring throughout this whole fiasco is that voting against this bill isn't as simple as democrat versus republican. Elected officials are supposed to be working for their constituents. The constituents are the American people. The American people do NOT support Obama care. In essence, bi partisanship by the republicans on this bill is tantamount to ignoring the will of the people that elected them.

PS- You can tell this bill is shit when Obama has to bribe members of his own party to vote for it.

[Straw Man]

What most of you people do not grasp is that the fundamental features of the healthcare bill are so skewed towards an ultra leftist  political premise, that no republican with an ounce of self respect and half a brain cell could in good conscience vote for Obamacare in its current form.

The concessions ( if you can even call them concessions) made by the democrats have been so few and so irrelevant that it is at best dishonest, and at worst stupid to call the compromises which have been proposed a "bi partisan" effort.

A final point many of you are ignoring throughout this whole fiasco is that voting against this bill isn't as simple as democrat versus republican. Elected officials are supposed to be working for their constituents. The constituents are the American people. The American people do NOT support Obama care. In essence, bi partisanship by the republicans on this bill is tantamount to ignoring the will of the people that elected them.

PS- You can tell this bill is shit when Obama has to bribe members of his own party to vote for it.

hard to take your perspective seriously since this bill doesn't include a public option or even eliminate the anti-trust exemption

what part do you think is "ultra leftist"?

[Dos Equis]

Again he lies so blatantly you cant even see it.  On the one hand he makes those statements, and then the next day you read that he banned off shore drilling for the term he is in congress and shut off funding for Yuca mountain. 

Actions, not words Straw.  Look at what this asshole does, not what he says and you will get a clue. 

Remember this speech Hillary gave?  She was dead right about Obama from day one and people like yourself were too caught up in your school girl crushes to realize it. 

Great clip.  She was absolutely right:  don't say one thing and do another.  As much as I disliked Hillary, I'm starting to think she would have made a better president.   

[Straw Man]

Great clip.  She was absolutely right:  don't say one thing and do another.  As much as I disliked Hillary, I'm starting to think she would have made a better president.  

I don't know:

1.  What she is talking about
2.  If she even correct or if she is the one lying or spinning
3.  If Obama was even responsible for whatever she is talking about
4.  Why should I even care.  If you want to point out lies there are certainly examples that are more timely and more relevent than a spat over campaign ads from 2+ years ago

[tonymctones]

Great clip.  She was absolutely right:  don't say one thing and do another.  As much as I disliked Hillary, I'm starting to think she would have made a better president.   

without a doubt would have made a better president

[Dos Equis]

without a doubt would have made a better president

I was listening to him give a speech a while back and I actually said "I miss George Bush."     I can't even listen to the man anymore. 

[Soul Crusher]

I was listening to him give a speech a while back and I actually said "I miss George Bush."     I can't even listen to the man anymore. 

I wont even turn on the TV anymore since this communist asshole makes me want to throw something at the tv set with his lies. 

[BodyProSite]

he is nothing more than a communist piece of shit thats doesnt gives 2 rats asses about america, anyone who believes other wise needs to wake the fuck up or get off the crack.

[Mons Venus]

I wont even turn on the TV anymore since this communist asshole makes me want to throw something at the tv set with his lies. 

^^^^^ Suicide watch!