Obama Was Dishonest About "Hope and Change"

[Dos Equis]

I don't believe he ever intended to try and end the partisan air in D.C.  His approach has been "my way or the highway."  Same old hardball Washington politics.  This is just another example.  He's lobbying Democrats (not Republicans) and could care less if he gets a single Republican vote, or whether the majority of the country opposes this bill. 

In unusual step, Obama heads to the hill Saturday
Posted: March 20th, 2010

Washington (CNN) - President Obama plans to address the House Democratic caucus Saturday to make a final plea for the health care overhaul, a day ahead of an expected House vote.

Four Democratic officials familiar with the plans told CNN on Friday that the president will speak Saturday to the lawmakers. The pitch will be made on Capitol Hill, White House aides said. No further details were immediately available.

The House of Representatives is set to vote Sunday on a sweeping $875 billion reform plan that cleared the Senate in December, as well as another $65 billion in compromise changes to the measure.

If the Senate bill passes the House, Obama will sign it into law. If the package of changes is passed, it will be taken up by the Senate.

Democratic leaders are trying to round up the 216 necessary votes to pass the bill. According to CNN's latest count, 29 Democrats plan to vote against the legislation. Thirty-eight Democratic "no" votes are needed to kill the bill.

Multiple Democratic leadership sources told CNN that Democrats have over 200 "yes" votes, though it was not clear Friday night how close Democrats were to securing the votes they need.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2010/03/20/obama-to-make-final-push-on-the-hill/?fbid=54YJ106g8kS#more-95418

[Dos Equis]

From "The Audacity of Hope":

“Genuine bipartisanship,” he wrote, “assumes an honest process of give-and-take, and that the quality of the compromise is measured by how well it serves some agreed-upon goal, whether better schools or lower deficits. This in turn assumes that the majority will be constrained — by an exacting press corps and ultimately an informed electorate — to negotiate in good faith.

“If these conditions do not hold — if nobody outside Washington is really paying attention to the substance of the bill, if the true costs . . . are buried in phony accounting and understated by a trillion dollars or so — the majority party can begin every negotiation by asking for 100% of what it wants, go on to concede 10%, and then accuse any member of the minority party who fails to support this ‘compromise’ of being ‘obstructionist.’

“For the minority party in such circumstances, ‘bipartisanship’ comes to mean getting chronically steamrolled, although individual senators may enjoy certain political rewards by consistently going along with the majority and hence gaining a reputation for being ‘moderate’ or ‘centrist.’”

[Straw Man]

He should have stopped appealing to Repubs about 8 months ago

Repubs vote against their own proposals as soon as the Dems include them in legislation

[Dos Equis]

"I`m not going to anticipate problems," Obama said at his first news conference as President. "I`m going to go in there with a spirit of bipartisanship."

[Straw Man]

"I`m not going to anticipate problems," Obama said at his first news conference as President. "I`m going to go in there with a spirit of bipartisanship."

yep and he wasted almost a year with nothing to show for it

he's a slow learner

[Dos Equis]

 

"We all understand that there are legitimate and genuine differences between the parties.  But despite the political posturing that often paralyzes this town, there are many issues upon which we can and should agree.
That's what the American people are demanding of us.  I think they're tired of every day being Election Day in Washington.  And at this critical time in our country, the people who sent us here expect a seriousness of purpose that transcends petty politics."

[Straw Man]

"We all understand that there are legitimate and genuine differences between the parties.  But despite the political posturing that often paralyzes this town, there are many issues upon which we can and should agree.
That's what the American people are demanding of us.  I think they're tired of every day being Election Day in Washington.  And at this critical time in our country, the people who sent us here expect a seriousness of purpose that transcends petty politics."

 

[Dos Equis]

Liar liar.

[Dos Equis]

Pants on fire.  

[Straw Man]

Liar liar.

where's the lie?

Obama Chooses Bi-partisan Chairs for Intel Advisory Board

President Obama announced today that he has chosen Senators Chuck Hagel and David Boren to serve as co-chairmen of his Intelligence Advisory Board (PIAB). “Under Chuck and Dave's leadership, I will be looking for the board to provide me with objective, independent, and non-partisan counsel as we work to strengthen our intelligence community and our national security,” The President said today in the Cabinet Room noting the bipartisanship of his co-chairs, Hagel, a former Republican Senator from Nebraska and Boren a former Democratic Senator from Oklahoma
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/10/obama-chooses-bipartisan-chairs-for-intel-advisory-board-.html

[Dos Equis]

 

In his victory speech Tuesday night, President-elect Barack Obama returned to a central theme of his campaign, the importance of closing the partisan divide that has crippled Washington and turned national politics into blood sport.

"In this country, we rise or fall as one nation, as one people," Obama said. "Let's resist the temptation to fall back on the same partisanship and pettiness and immaturity that has poisoned our politics for so long."

[Straw Man]

In his victory speech Tuesday night, President-elect Barack Obama returned to a central theme of his campaign, the importance of closing the partisan divide that has crippled Washington and turned national politics into blood sport.

"In this country, we rise or fall as one nation, as one people," Obama said. "Let's resist the temptation to fall back on the same partisanship and pettiness and immaturity that has poisoned our politics for so long."

Bum - what is your point exactly

do you think Obama has not made genuine attempts at bipartisanship?

[Dos Equis]

President Barack Obama may rely only on Democrats to push health-care legislation through the U.S. Congress if Republican opposition doesn’t yield soon, two of the president’s top advisers said.

“Ultimately, this is not about a process, it’s about results,” David Axelrod, Obama’s senior political strategist, said during an interview in his White House office. “If we’re going to get this thing done, obviously time is a-wasting.”

Both Axelrod and White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel said taking a partisan route to enacting major health-care legislation isn’t the president’s preferred choice. Yet in separate interviews, each man left that option open.

“We’d like to do it with the votes of members of both parties,” Axelrod said. “But the worst result would be to not get health-care reform done.”

[Straw Man]

Bum - everything you're posting supports the notion that Obama has made every effort for bipartisan support

His own party and many of his supporters are sick of him continuing this seemingly pointless effort but yet he continues

Is that your point?

[Dos Equis]

"We must work quickly, in a bipartisan fashion, to resolve this crisis and avert an even broader economic catastrophe," Obama told a Green Bay, Wis., audience Monday. Like Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid and Speaker Nancy Pelosi, the top Democratic leaders in Congress, Obama is insisting on an additional economic stimulus bill and relief for homeowners facing foreclosure.

[Straw Man]

"We must work quickly, in a bipartisan fashion, to resolve this crisis and avert an even broader economic catastrophe," Obama told a Green Bay, Wis., audience Monday. Like Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid and Speaker Nancy Pelosi, the top Democratic leaders in Congress, Obama is insisting on an additional economic stimulus bill and relief for homeowners facing foreclosure.

schitzo much?

every post lends more proof to Obama's efforts at bipartisanship.

[Straw Man]

I don't believe he ever intended to try and end the partisan air in D.C.  His approach has been "my way or the highway."    Same old hardball Washington politics.  This is just another example.  He's lobbying Democrats (not Republicans) and could care less if he gets a single Republican vote, or whether the majority of the country opposes this bill.  

Bum - are you planning on making any posts that support your statement or are you just going to keep giving more proof of the opposite?

[Soul Crusher]

Bum - are you planning on making any posts that support your statement or are you just going to keep giving more proof of the opposite?

"Hope & Change" has always been a empty BS slogan with no subatance whatsoever to appeal to the morons and bird brains to usher in marxism. 

[Straw Man]

"Hope & Change" has always been a empty BS slogan with no subatance whatsoever to appeal to the morons and bird brains to usher in marxism. 

LoL

333 - do you think Obamas attempts at bi-partisanship were really just a cover to "usher in marxism"?

I don't quite follow how that works

can you connect the dots for me?

[Dos Equis]

"Hope & Change" has always been a empty BS slogan with no subatance whatsoever to appeal to the morons and bird brains to usher in marxism. 

Exactly.  Nothing but an empty slogan.  I think his definition of bipartisanship is:  I'll work with you only if you agree with me. 

[Soul Crusher]

LoL

333 - do you think Obamas attempts at bi-partisanship were really just a cover to "usher in marxism"?

I don't quite follow how that works

can you connect the dots for me?

He never was interested in bi-partisanship.  Thats pure nonsense.  He stacked the deck from day one to where no GOP rep could possibly ever go along with him and now people wonder why?  GMAFB!  

Imagine if McCain one and was trying health care and in the bill he banned abortions, banned gay sex, banned interracial marriage, and then asked the Dems to work with him on other stuff.

This is the same thing.  Obama put through so many reckeless, irresponsible, radical, and insane provisions in this health care mess that for him to expect any GOP to work with him is just stupid.  

He should just be honest, admit he is a marxist, like every thing about his history, past and present shows, and get it over with.  

[Straw Man]

Exactly.  Nothing but an empty slogan.  I think his definition of bipartisanship is:  I'll work with you only if you agree with me. 

you mean like compasionate conservative or I'm a uniter not a divider?

[Soul Crusher]

you mean like compasionate conservative or I'm a uniter not a divider?

Yes!  Straw - what you need to realize is that many of us did not like Bush and his phoney crap either.  To us he was far better than Gore, but still a shithead nevertheless.     

[OzmO]

Would anyone consider this approach far removed for the "pussy spineless democrat" stereotype?

[Soul Crusher]

Would anyone consider this approach far removed for the "pussy spineless democrat" stereotype?

Ozmo - there is a lot more going on here than just a Dem. Health Bill.  This monstrosity is about something far bigger, CONTROLLING YOUR LIFE! 

Do you realize the IRS is in charge of enforcing the most important aspect of this bill?  Do you even realize how invasive this is going to be when you have the IRS busting your balls checking out your health insurance and related issues?