Boxing and Weight Training

[Mr Nobody]

The best heavyweight boxer in history, never trained with weights.

[_bruce_]

Bowflex worked fine for him

[UPINTHEMGUTS]

Professional boxers rarely train with bench presses, squats, curls, etc. They're training is more concentrated on hand speed, footwork, endurance, and core strength training.

Out of all the weight classes, heavyweights use free weights more often. No weight limit to worry about in case they gain muscle and added weight.

[K-1]

All depends on the fighter/athlete and how long they've played with weights.

Roy Jones Jr. lifted his entire career, Floyd Mayweather lifted on HBO 24/7 at the "fitness club" lol.

All depends..... Mosley was on his high school lifting team and still lifts. 

I would say if you are late in the game adding weight training with boxing it will hurt.

If it's been part of your workout since early on, I see no problems with it as long as you don't go for the overly diesel power lifter route.

Trainer Manny Steward once said it's the heavy style weight training that can present a problem as UPINTHEM pointed out below.

Slows down the "fast twitch" fibers needed to snap shots. Mike Tyson he said probably was the only guy he's ever seen that was overly bulky/stocky/muscular/compact that defied that rule.

He mentioned this during a Jeff lacy fight. There was no reason for Jeff to bulk like that at that weight class ever imo.

[The Showstoppa]

Ole Cassius.....with they would lock him and Joe Frazier in a room today.

[James Blunt]

The best heavyweight boxer in history, never trained with weights.

It's noticeable with his paper thin muscles.

[K-1]

Ole Cassius.....with they would lock him and Joe Frazier in a room today.

LOL.

[Mr Nobody]

All depends on the fighter/athlete and how long they've played with weights.

Roy Jones Jr. lifted his entire career, Floyd Mayweather lifted on HBO 24/7 at the "fitness club" lol.

All depends..... Mosley was on his high school lifting team and still lifts. 

I would say if you are late in the game adding weight training with boxing it will hurt.

If it's been part of your workout since early on, I see no problems with it as long as you don't go for the overly diesel power lifter route.

Trainer Manny Steward once said it's the heavy style weight training that can present a problem as UPINTHEM pointed out below.

Slows down the "fast twitch" fibers needed to snap shots. Mike Tyson he said probably was the only guy he's ever seen that was overly bulky/stocky/muscular/compact that defied that rule.

He mentioned this during a Jeff lacy fight. There was no reason for Jeff to bulk like that at that weight class ever imo.

Are you saying if a boxer started out early lifting weights he would be ok with the muscluarity hence it wouldnt slow him down but if waiting until later then it may hamper him?

[K-1]

Are you saying if a boxer started out early lifting weights he would be ok with the muscluarity hence it wouldnt slow him down but if waiting until later then it may hamper him?

yes.

I feel if you already had weight training introduced to you earlier on, your boxing ability is not likely to take a hit as you progress from teenage years to adulthood.

Example: Evander Holyfield ..another guy that lifted since day one boxing. He up'd his game as a pro and hired Lee Haney....and we all know Evander used to take mofo's to the woodshed back in the day.

  

 

[Mr Nobody]

yes.

I feel if you already had weight training introduced to you earlier on, your boxing ability is not likely to take a hit as you progress from teenage years to adulthood.

Example: Evander Holyfield ..another guy that lifted since day one boxing. He up'd his game as a pro and hired Lee Haney....and we all know Evander used to take mofo's to the woodshed back in the day.

  

 

Agreed on Evander. Now Ken Norton was muscular but had an unorthodox style broke Ali's jaw once was that due to his strength?

[K-1]

Agreed on Evander. Now Ken Norton was muscular but had an unorthodox style broke Ali's jaw once was that due to his strength?

Ken had nice power and distributed it nicely, so I would say that helped him out along with his shot selection.

But you can easily get your jaw broken if you have your mouth open (not biting down on the mouthpiece) by a light puncher.





 

[HTexan]

Googled

"What time did you get up?
Very early, around 5:30am to run

Did you stretch before you run?
Yes, light stretching

How far did you run?
I ran about 6 miles, which took about 40 minutes (i always ran in army type boots)

What did you do after you run?
I did some exercises, stretching, and back home to get washed up

What did you eat for breakfast?
All natural foods, orange juice and water.

What time did you go to the gym?
12:30pm

What time did you leave the gym?
3:30pm

What did you do after training?
I had a rub down, then washed up. I would maybe talk with the TV people, go out and enjoy myself, then eat.

What did you eat for dinner?
I always ate good: chicken, steaks, green beans, potatoes, vegetables, fruit, juice and water.

What did you do after dinner?
I liked to go for a walk and watch TV.

What time did you go to bed?
That depended on how i was feeling

What was your favourite exercise?
Shadow boxing and skipping. I loved gym work.

How many days a week did you train?
6

Did you have a job before you won the world title?
No"
"
Warm up:
- side to sides
- torso swivels
- jumping around on toes to limber up
(15 minutes in total)

Shadow boxing: 5 X 3 minutes rounds, working on footwork and speed punching (30 second break)

Heavy bag: 6 X 3 minute rounds, working on combinations and stamina (30 second break)

Sparring: built up sparring as camp progressed

Floor exercises:
- 15 minutes (300 in total)
- bicycle crunches
- sit ups with medicine ball
- leg raises

Speedball: 9 minutes (1 minute break)

Skipping: 20 minutes (Ali always moved around while skipping, never staying in the same spot)

Shadow boxing: 1 minute, walking around with light shadow boxing

Ali did not use weights in his workout"

[Dreadlifter]

Slows down the "fast twitch" fibers needed to snap shots.

  oh brother

[Mr Nobody]

 

[Hulkotron]

I was in the university boxing club for a semester in college (never fought, I just did the workouts like the pussy that I am).  I found it be very hard on my shoulders.  I think it would be difficult to train for boxing and also do any meaningful press work.

[Mr Nobody]

I was in the university boxing club for a semester in college (never fought, I just did the workouts like the pussy that I am).  I found it be very hard on my shoulders.  I think it would be difficult to train for boxing and also do any meaningful press work.

Shoulders definately get overworked I always found punching the heavy bag helped.

[che]

Shoulders definately get overworked I always found punching the heavy bag helped.

My trainer was old school and didn't let me train with weights ,he used to tell me that  it was going to slow me down , I believed him then I don't believe that now.  .
This is me when I was 16 yo , 125lbs   training (boxing ) 3-4 hs  a day , I did do   pushups and ton of sit ups ,my shoulders and back  were decent but my legs and  arms were small.

[Mr Nobody]

My trainer was old school and didn't let me train with weights ,he used to tell me that  it was going to slow me down , I believed him then I don't believe that now.  .
This is me when I was 16 yo , 125lbs   training (boxing ) 3-4 hs  a day , I did do   pushups and ton of sit ups ,my shoulders and back  were decent but my legs and  arms were small.

Nice man did you box on the local level or what level? Yea you dont get alot of resistance in the biceps or legs just boxing so understood.

[che]

Nice man did you box on the local level or what level? Yea you dont get alot of resistance in the biceps or legs just boxing so understood.

Yes I boxed for 7 years ,I was 2 times regional GG champion and  I made  to the semis at Nationals (Golden Gloves ).

[Hulkotron]

My trainer was old school and didn't let me train with weights ,he used to tell me that  it was going to slow me down , I believed him then I don't believe that now.  .
This is me when I was 16 yo , 125lbs   training (boxing ) 3-4 hs  a day , I did do   pushups and ton of sit ups ,my shoulders and back  were decent but my legs and  arms were small.

Damn che are you like 4'5"?  Pretty big there for 125 lbs.

[Mr Nobody]

Yes I boxed for 7 years ,I was 2 times regional GG champion and  I made  to the semis at Nationals (Golden Gloves ).

Cool Che why didnt you take it further?

[Sherief Shalaby]

The best heavyweight boxer in history, never trained with weights.

but rocky did

[Mr Nobody]

but rocky did

Nice point man, have you boxed before or hit the bags? Hitting heavy bag is a great cardio and shoulder/tricep workout.

[Sherief Shalaby]

Nice point man, have you boxed before or hit the bags? Hitting heavy bag is a great cardio and shoulder/tricep workout.

i had a sand bag when i was very young before i started to lift weights but i never took it seriously.. but yes seems to be a good cardio!..

[Mr Nobody]

i had a sand bag when i was very young before i started to lift weights but i never took it seriously.. but yes seems to be a good cardio!..

Get grandpa to hang one in the roof gym, then you can pretend it is TYR.