The Greatest Arnold Classic Winner ever

[Hulkster]

Still, who cares about the quotes when visuals proof the opposite.

the nuthuggers do because they know the visuals prove their whole argument is bullshit...

they need an angle to stay in the game otherwise they are done.

its all just a put on so they can continue to debate this stuff.

they know as well as we do that the visuals show ronnie was better than dorian. and that 99 was arguably his best ever form. hell, even McGough feels 99>98 (as per his article) and thats something they insist isn't true either.

you see, they use McGough quotes to their advantage when it suits them, but when it doesn't, they ignore it. its silly.

[JP_RC]

of course there isn't..you will get a better idea of the fine details of a physique with a well done video as opposed to sitting 45 rows back behind some tall guy..

but when the nuthuggers see the proof that their quotes (ie opinions from other people) are in fact incorrect, they need to come up with something to discredit the visuals..

so they claim the visuals don't matter.

its silly, really.

 

http://www.truveo.com/Ronnie-Coleman-1999-Mr-Olympia-Part-Two/id/1160132027

they wish this video didn't exist because it destroys everything they have.

it shows ronnie was at his best in 99

and it shows he was better than dorian ever was all at the same time.

so they freak out, call it faked etc etc.

 

As much as ND hates it, I agree with you 100%.
A good quality video is a great visual proof of a bodybuilder's physique. I mean a case could be made against pics, but a video is the closest you can get to seeing them live up close. (not 20 rows back)

How can they claim visuals don't matter, when bodybuilding is almost all visual?

Maybe ND and others have their own way of evaluating physiques, but I clearly see Ronnie in 99 as his best and better than Dorian at any time.

[Hulkster]

How can they claim visuals don't matter, when bodybuilding is almost all visual?

because they have no clue how the sport works.

Maybe ND and others have their own way of evaluating physiques,

yeah, its called the wrong way...

[NarcissisticDeity]

It really doesn't, I could care less. Maybe Ronnie is a bit more humble than Dorian? Still, who cares about the quotes when visuals proof the opposite.
Dorian could be better conditioned than Ronnie, but not at Ronnie's best. By balance you mean how each muscle flows in size comparable to the rest? If so, then Dorian would not be more balanced than a peak Ronnie.

Nonsense you couldn't careless if that were the case you wouldn't have made an attempt to speak for him which is exactly what you're trying to do now by claiming he's more humble without ever just talking what he says at face value , it bothers you he feels this way and it's exactly why you're making excuses

visual proof is the opposite to you , to me it confirms my point of view , you see what you want and hear what you want hence your interpretations of what Ronnie really meant

Dorian is better conditioned that Ronnie at his best confirmed by many first hand accounts which trumps you and Hulkster's  interpretations of the ' visual proof ' and I'm not even going to bother responding to your claims because that's all they are , claims , no explanations , no elaborations , no details , just blanket statements you can't debate with that just expose the weakness of the position

[Hulkster]

but I clearly see Ronnie in 99 as his best and better than Dorian at any time.

its okay. so does just about everyone else. see truce thread for many links documenting the opinions out there.

thats why the nuthuggers have tried to claim the 99 video is faked/enhanced/tampered with etc etc.

its been game over for them since day 1 after that vid was first posted..

 

[Hulkster]

and I'm not even going to bother responding to your claims because that's all they are

of course you aren't going to respond, because you can't.

you know you can't refute them, the visuals prove them and you can't counter that.

so you run. typical ND.

you always run.

[NarcissisticDeity]

the nuthuggers do because they know the visuals prove their whole argument is bullshit...

they need an angle to stay in the game otherwise they are done.

its all just a put on so they can continue to debate this stuff.

they know as well as we do that the visuals show ronnie was better than dorian. and that 99 was arguably his best ever form. hell, even McGough feels 99>98 (as per his article) and thats something they insist isn't true either.

you see, they use McGough quotes to their advantage when it suits them, but when it doesn't, they ignore it. its silly.

the nuthuggers do because they know the visuals prove their whole argument is bullshit...

Yes and the visuals lead you to the conclusion that Dorian lost the 1993 Mr Olympia to Flex , you are the problem right along  you can't form an opinion if you don't even know how contests are judged  and I have proven 100X over you don't have a clue

If you honestly felt Ronnie is better the Truce thread would have been 2 pages and you would have felt confident in knowing it's true , since Ronnie admitted the obvious , he couldn't touch Yates you have this compulsion to try and prove him wrong by spewing your same shit in every thread , hi-jacking , crying , bitching and moaning

I proved my point using your hero and moved on , try it sometime 

[NarcissisticDeity]

of course you aren't going to respond, because you can't.

you know you can't refute them, the visuals prove them and you can't counter that.

so you run. typical ND.

you always run.

I could type exactly everything I proved you wrong on it's redundant , I owned you so badly here you are again hi-jacking a thread trying to prove me and Ronnie wrong   

I proved my point and moved on , try it , oppppssssss you can't because Ronnie said he couldn't touch Yates because he was ' way advanced ' lmafo

[NarcissisticDeity]

its okay. so does just about everyone else. see truce thread for many links documenting the opinions out there.

thats why the nuthuggers have tried to claim the 99 video is faked/enhanced/tampered with etc etc.

its been game over for them since day 1 after that vid was first posted..

 

You don't believe that for one second which is exactly why you are here hi-jacking another thread , proving my point that you're a little bitch and I own you and now you follow me into every thread

It's been game over when Ronnie said for the third time he's not in Dorian's league  poor kid you never recovered and it was predicted 

[Hulkster]

no ND, you didn't move on.

you gave up because you could never corroborate your typed words with any visuals in real life.

ever.

so you gave up.

you couldn't prove what you typed and you knew it. so you gave up.

its very simple.

I on the other hand, always could.

and thats the difference between us.

[NarcissisticDeity]

no ND, you didn't move on.

you gave up because you could never corroborate your typed words with any visuals in real life.

ever.

so you gave up.

you couldn't prove what you typed and you knew it. so you gave up.

its very simple.

I on the other hand, always could.

and thats the difference between us.

Yes and you proved Dorian lost in 1993 LMMFAO

Hulkster you never recovered and we all knew once Ronnie admitted for the third time he couldn't touch Yates that you would melt and melt and melt

Ronnie ended you kinda of ironic huh? move on sport it's over

Now Flex vs Ronnie you might win LMFAO

[Hulkster]

no need to melt when the visuals prove I am right, no matter what dorian, ronnie, santa, or the easter bunny says..

and lots and lots of people in the know agree.

too bad you are not one of them.

[FREAKgeek]

I take it you guys don't agree

[NarcissisticDeity]

no need to melt when the visuals prove I am right, no matter what dorian, ronnie, santa, or the easter bunny says..

and lots and lots of people in the know agree.

too bad you are not one of them.

yes people in the know agree Dorian lost in 1993 Gotcha 

[TooMuchMuscle4U]

If i ever saw Nasser i would hook a bungee in his nose and hang him from a tree.

Then i would beat him like a pinata until all the synthol and steroids came out 

Epic Irony   

[NeoSeminole]

I love how every time a new Flex article comes along about best physique or best back, it always disproves what ND says

best physique of all-time: Ronnie
best back of all-time: Ronnie
best ASC winner of all-time: Ronnie

ironic that he disagrees with the people who saw them live when the crux of his argument is "you have to see them in person"

[beefcakeblake]

just as I was saying, they make up bullshit to discredit the visuals because it destroys the quotes they have, which is the basis of their whole argument..

when you base your whole argument on someone elses opinion, and that opinion is shown to be incorrect based on the visuals, what do you have left?

nothing.

 


http://www.truveo.com/Ronnie-Coleman-1999-Mr-Olympia-Part-Two/id/1160132027

get some popcorn nuthuggers!

lmao what are you trying to prove with this video ronnie doesn't even look that impressive. deff not as good as 1998( esp back)

[beefcakeblake]

its okay. so does just about everyone else. see truce thread for many links documenting the opinions out there.

thats why the nuthuggers have tried to claim the 99 video is faked/enhanced/tampered with etc etc.

its been game over for them since day 1 after that vid was first posted..

 

lol your the only douche who could turn a flex asc thread and turn it into Dorian vs Ronnie, congrats you should get an award for biggest fan boy.

and your video sucks, Ronnie doesn't even look good there, he just has a slight edge over Chris and flex, which Dorian crushed every year.lol your few gay selective pics u use from the 99 o doesn't do you justice to your opinion of 99 being his greatest year, when you see in the video that he was not as conditioned as 98.

[beefcakeblake]

I love how every time a new Flex article comes along about best physique or best back, it always disproves what ND says

best physique of all-time: Ronnie
best back of all-time: Ronnie
best ASC winner of all-time: Ronnie

ironic that he disagrees with the people who saw them live when the crux of his argument is "you have to see them in person"

damm hulkster must of made those lists   really voted best physique thats sad saggy nips, budda belly wtf are they smoking.  like if anything flex shoulda won that esp his 1993 asc all around better physique, or shawn ray.

[ChristopherA]

I love how every time a new Flex article comes along about best physique or best back, it always disproves what ND says

best physique of all-time: Ronnie
best back of all-time: Ronnie
best ASC winner of all-time: Ronnie

ironic that he disagrees with the people who saw them live when the crux of his argument is "you have to see them in person"

Flex magazine sucks cock so you know. Yes if we all use the Weider Principles we can be huge! 16 week big guns program! I actually believed that shit when I was 18.

[Hulkster]

lmao what are you trying to prove with this video ronnie doesn't even look that impressive. deff not as good as 1998( esp back)

LOL

this guy is new, but he fits right in with the delusional guy mentality

[James Blunt]

lol your the only douche who could turn a flex asc thread and turn it into Dorian vs Ronnie, congrats you should get an award for biggest fan boy.

and your video sucks, Ronnie doesn't even look good there, he just has a slight edge over Chris and flex, which Dorian crushed every year.lol your few gay selective pics u use from the 99 o doesn't do you justice to your opinion of 99 being his greatest year, when you see in the video that he was not as conditioned as 98.

Ronnie looks unbelievable in that video. He's destroying Flex and Cormier there. You're either trying to be an asshole or blind. Maybe both.

[gcb]

will our suffering ever be over - another hi-jacking in progress 

[Parker]

will our suffering ever be over - another hi-jacking in progress 

Flex was the best AC winner. Period. Hands down. Wish he won over Levrone in 1996

[JP_RC]

Nonsense you couldn't careless if that were the case you wouldn't have made an attempt to speak for him which is exactly what you're trying to do now by claiming he's more humble without ever just talking what he says at face value , it bothers you he feels this way and it's exactly why you're making excuses

visual proof is the opposite to you , to me it confirms my point of view , you see what you want and hear what you want hence your interpretations of what Ronnie really meant

Dorian is better conditioned that Ronnie at his best confirmed by many first hand accounts which trumps you and Hulkster's  interpretations of the ' visual proof ' and I'm not even going to bother responding to your claims because that's all they are , claims , no explanations , no elaborations , no details , just blanket statements you can't debate with that just expose the weakness of the position

Ok ND, I care.... 
I don't see visual proof as I want to see or hear what I want do hear. I call it like I see it and I see Ronnie in 1999 as being too much for any Dorian. Almost everyone here, except the die hard Yates, see that too.
I'm not even a big Ronnie fan anyway, so I wouldn't be biased. I just think that in the 1998-2001 period and especially 1999 he was just too dominating, too good for anyone. Dorian, Nasser, Cutler, Kai, anyone.
I could explain and elaborate as why I see Ronnie better than Dorian, but I already did it in the truce thread. I don't want to write all of that again.

Seriously ND, do you think you're "owning" Hulkster? Do you think you're owning someone......on a message board?
These are just simple debates and discussions here.
Sorry everyone else for hijacking the thread