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Re: The Greatest Arnold Classic Winner ever
« Reply #275 on: March 30, 2010, 02:25:12 PM »
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Re: The Greatest Arnold Classic Winner ever
« Reply #276 on: March 30, 2010, 02:28:11 PM »
I'm imminently qualified to make a judgement on the Ronnie v Dorian debate. Because I've actually seen them compete many times. I've spent £1000's attending shows in the US and Europe.  I saw Dorian straight through the 90's and Ronnie along with him too. I saw Ronnie in '99 (his 'best' year according to some) and '04. I've stood right next to both and watched them (no homo). Dorian had something Ronnie didn't. Ronnie was a big, massively powerful bodybuilder with a physique that reminded me of a muscular elephant. When it came to Dorian, it was lights out for whoever competed against him. Sure he was big, but his muscles was welded onto his body and then grinded and molded into perfection. It was never a question in my mind, Dorian wins. Ronnie might come close, but he still don't (and didn't :D ) have what it takes (took).

Great post ! these guys like to claim just one or two people think Dorian is better  ;D

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Re: The Greatest Arnold Classic Winner ever
« Reply #277 on: March 30, 2010, 02:31:59 PM »
Sorry Neo , Flex magazine 2003 favorite Olympia and Ronnie is behind Dorian it's apparently law now  ::)

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Re: The Greatest Arnold Classic Winner ever
« Reply #278 on: March 30, 2010, 02:33:55 PM »
Sorry Neo , Flex magazine 2003 favorite Olympia and Ronnie is behind Dorian it's apparently law now  ::)
Damn amazing ND how do you come up with this old stuff?

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Re: The Greatest Arnold Classic Winner ever
« Reply #279 on: March 30, 2010, 02:44:27 PM »
your quotes mean shit and I'll show why

exactly, none of Dorian's peers could beat him during his prime. It wasn't until nearly a decade later that Ronnie would surpass him.

this quote is pre-03 when Ronnie's back was at it's widest, thickest, and freakiest.

this quote was made before the 01 ASC and 03 Mr. Olympia (a strong argument can be made for each contest being his prime).


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your quotes mean shit and I'll show why

exactly, none of Dorian's peers could beat him during his prime. It wasn't until nearly a decade later that Ronnie would surpass him.

Why do you think they're comparing Jay and Ronnie with Dorian? and Ronnie was Dorian's peer even entertaining your nonsense and did you see the other quotes I posted from Ronnie's reign ? of course you did and as usual when stifled you look for a way out or just ignore them , and again in the latest poll they stay specifically many feel to this day Dorian has the best back and a strong case can be made for Dorian being number one , so again they don't mean shit because they show your stupidity when it comes to a subjective topic and that regardless of who came after it doesn't mean they were better

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his quote is pre-03 when Ronnie's back was at it's widest, thickest, and freakiest.

Ronnie's quote was from 2003 and I think that Samir quote is too I would have to double check and Ronnie's back may have been wide and thick but it wasn't as dense or as dry as when he was lighter , don't equate softer size with quality and Ronnie 2003 said Dorian had the thickest & freakiest back he ever seen so either way you're fucked  ;)

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this quote was made before the 01 ASC and 03 Mr. Olympia (a strong argument can be made for each contest being his prime).

has nothing to do with the fact that people felt in Ronnie's reign that Dorian's back was better

and it in the end it's subjective for you to claim your quotes are right and everyone else is wrong on a subjective topic such as this is weak and stupid two things you're often guilty of

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Re: The Greatest Arnold Classic Winner ever
« Reply #280 on: March 30, 2010, 02:48:00 PM »
this is his favorite pic of Dorian. I don't even want to know why :-\



You're the homo who wants me to ' swallow ' your milkshake and proud of it too  :-X you building confidence since Ricky Martian came out?

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Re: The Greatest Arnold Classic Winner ever
« Reply #281 on: March 30, 2010, 02:50:53 PM »
Damn amazing ND how do you come up with this old stuff?

Easy back then we didn't have the internet lol we had to buy magazines to get the latest news and contest placings

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Re: The Greatest Arnold Classic Winner ever
« Reply #282 on: March 30, 2010, 02:55:12 PM »
Easy back then we didn't have the internet lol we had to buy magazines to get the latest news and contest placings
Even more amazing, you know where to go for about any pic or article needed.

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Re: The Greatest Arnold Classic Winner ever
« Reply #283 on: March 30, 2010, 03:04:32 PM »
Sorry Neo , Flex magazine 2003 favorite Olympia and Ronnie is behind Dorian it's apparently law now  ::)

ironically, ronnie's hamstring in the leg shot of him in that pic has more development than dorian does in the whole front shot he is hitting.. :-\

ironic, but not surprising.
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Re: The Greatest Arnold Classic Winner ever
« Reply #284 on: March 30, 2010, 03:08:12 PM »
ironically, ronnie's hamstring in the leg shot of him in that pic has more development than dorian does in the whole front shot he is hitting.. :-\

ironic, but not surprising.

Not surprising how it shows off the discrepancy in proportion between his quads and hams with his quads dominating the two with much harmony a common theme in his physique

but it's law now 2003 Ronnie is behind Dorian again  ;D

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Re: The Greatest Arnold Classic Winner ever
« Reply #285 on: March 30, 2010, 05:31:41 PM »
<yawn>

I don't disagree with experts subjective opinions , I take them for what they're worth. You in fact disagree with the experts who saw them live case in point above and I can embarrass you even more with many more quotes you flat out dismissed such as Ronnie Coleman who on multiple occasions said he couldn't beat Dorian and you dismissed him as ' stupid '

what does your response have to do with seeing the pros live?

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That was to generate interest in the thread and guess what? in all reality if all three faced each other they do have the ability to beat each other but I think Dorian would beat them both because his physique favors the criteria

yeah, sure. You got caught and now you're lying to weasel your way out. "Erm.... I meant to do that." ::)

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for years I posted quotes stating Dorian had better conditioning & balance & proportion which I proved my points and you dismissed all the experts anyone who says Dorian would beat Ronnie is subjective but the topic of balance & proportion , density & dryness aren't ! a concept you have difficulty grasping

wrong, you posted the opinions of a few journalists as 'proof' that Dorian had better conditioning or balance. Now that quotes came out saying Ronnie has better this or better that, it suddenly becomes "subjective opinion." You're just a sore loser who can't admit when he loses at his own game.

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I never said they're wrong , you're flat out lying and in fact in the ' new ' poll the preface the article by stating a strong case for Dorian being number 1 can be made and in fact state that many today still feel he has the best back , it's subjective a concept you can't seem to grasp

spare me the semantics. Show me where it says in the latest poll that Dorian is tied with Ronnie for #1. Until then, Flex magazine is on record for saying Ronnie has the best back of all-time. ;)

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The 20 best backs of all time - Flex, March 2008

1. Ronnie Coleman (I don't see Dorian's name)

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0KFY/is_1_26/ai_n24356572/pg_1?tag=artBody;col1

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hahahahahaha epic hypocrisy it must suck you having to post this and they have me bash you over the head with the facts like you agree with McGough when he states Ronnie 01 is unbeatable and then turn around and state that he's flat-out wrong when he states Ronnie was never harder or drier

You're a hypocrite and not a very bright one , especially for chastising me for something you're clearly guilty of

brah, we've been through this many times. The fact you keep regurgitating the same nonsense proves you're grasping at straws. I have no problem admitting that Peter McGough is right, but not if you're going to be a fag who thinks the same rules of fairness don't apply to him. When you're ready to admit that Peter McGough is right about Ronnie having the best back ever and his 01 ASC physique beating every version of Dorian except pre-contest 93, then I will agree with Dorian having better conditioning.

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still having trouble grasping the concept of things being a subjective nature huh? you have limited comprehension abilities , popular opinion isn't proof ( everyone says Ronnie is better so there for he's better ) the only thing it's proof is it's popular and nothing else

you're dumb as f*ck. According to you, muscular bulk, conditioning, symmetry and balance - you know, the criteria judges use to determine placings - are objective yet when a bodybuilding expert applies this criteria, it magically become subjective? lol

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Re: The Greatest Arnold Classic Winner ever
« Reply #286 on: March 30, 2010, 05:36:17 PM »
Sorry Neo , Flex magazine 2003 favorite Olympia and Ronnie is behind Dorian it's apparently law now

stop embarrassing yourself. That is a fan poll for favorite Mr. Olympia :-\

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Re: The Greatest Arnold Classic Winner ever
« Reply #287 on: March 30, 2010, 05:39:10 PM »
Ronnie 2003 said Dorian had the thickest & freakiest back he ever seen so either way you're fucked

since you seem to think Ronnie is qualified to be an IFBB judge, do you agree with his assessment that he should have won the Mr O in 2006?

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Re: The Greatest Arnold Classic Winner ever
« Reply #288 on: March 30, 2010, 06:05:12 PM »
<yawn>

what does your response have to do with seeing the pros live?

yeah, sure. You got caught and now you're lying to weasel your way out. "Erm.... I meant to do that." ::)

wrong, you posted the opinions of a few journalists as 'proof' that Dorian had better conditioning or balance. Now that quotes came out saying Ronnie has better this or better that, it suddenly becomes "subjective opinion." You're just a sore loser who can't admit when he loses at his own game.

spare me the semantics. Show me where it says in the latest poll that Dorian is tied with Ronnie for #1. Until then, Flex magazine is on record for saying Ronnie has the best back of all-time. ;)

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1. Ronnie Coleman (I don't see Dorian's name)

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0KFY/is_1_26/ai_n24356572/pg_1?tag=artBody;col1

brah, we've been through this many times. The fact you keep regurgitating the same nonsense proves you're grasping at straws. I have no problem admitting that Peter McGough is right, but not if you're going to be a fag who thinks the same rules of fairness don't apply to him. When you're ready to admit that Peter McGough is right about Ronnie having the best back ever and his 01 ASC physique beating every version of Dorian except pre-contest 93, then I will agree with Dorian having better conditioning.

you're dumb as f*ck. According to you, muscular bulk, conditioning, symmetry and balance - you know, the criteria judges use to determine placings - are objective yet when a bodybuilding expert applies this criteria, it magically become subjective? lol

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what does your response have to do with seeing the pros live?

Because you have personally dismissed people who have seen Dorian & Ronnie live and in person as wrong , this makes you a hypocrite for claiming I do it , textbook projection

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yeah, sure. You got caught and now you're lying to weasel your way out. "Erm.... I meant to do that." ::)

oh no I was caught lying  ::) I just told you how I felt you want to believe what you want , knock yourself out . I've always maintained in fact that Flex could give Dorian trouble and Ronnie is one of the few guys who could beat Dorian it's old news I've been consistent with that but you're looking for any angle

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wrong, you posted the opinions of a few journalists as 'proof' that Dorian had better conditioning or balance. Now that quotes came out saying Ronnie has better this or better that, it suddenly becomes "subjective opinion." You're just a sore loser who can't admit when he loses at his own game.

I proved my points after the fact mind you on a non-subjective topic , either Ronnie has high sub-par calves in relation to his quads or he doesn't when directly compared to Dorian there is no room for debate on the subject

However the subject of best back or best ever is very subjective which why there are so many varying opinions and no one is right or wrong , so until you grasp this concept continue with your delusion that I lost at my own game when in fact the guy you claim who has the best back admits in 2003 a year you claim is his best that Dorian has the thickest & freakiest back he ever seen , so in the end you ' lose '

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spare me the semantics. Show me where it says in the latest poll that Dorian is tied with Ronnie for #1. Until then, Flex magazine is on record for saying Ronnie has the best back of all-time. ;)

Irony alert Neo saying spare me the semantics LMFAO I will just laugh at the absurdity of you typing that , I never claimed he was tied I said exactly what they said , a strong case for Dorian being #1 can be made and many still feel he has the best back , Flex magazine is on record as saying Joel Stubbs had a better back than Ronnie and Dorian , so guess what which is it? it changes with the writer and depends on the person , you're stuck on claiming a hallow victory on such a subjective topic and are so desperate think you've accomplished something and you haven't

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Best Back Ever

The 20 best backs of all time - Flex, March 2008

1. Ronnie Coleman (I don't see Dorian's name)

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0KFY/is_1_26/ai_n24356572/pg_1?tag=artBody;col1

1 Ronnie Coleman

For much of the '90s, there was little dispute that Yates had the best back ever, and there are many who contend so today. Now, there is a debate, for during the first years of his Olympia reign, Coleman also displayed low-lying, ultrawide lats, but whereas Yates had more grainy ruggedness, Coleman had more feathered refinements. The moments just before he hit his rear lat spread and rear double biceps were contest highlights, as ridges and knots roamed and stripes and crevices emerged, morphing his back into a new and spectacular landscape each time he moved his arms. At his best, his back was like a great symphony orchestra, big and booming, sometimes overwhelming, and yet each finely tuned part played its role precisely.


because you're not looking  ;) try getting your head out of Ronnie's ass


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brah, we've been through this many times. The fact you keep regurgitating the same nonsense proves you're grasping at straws. I have no problem admitting that Peter McGough is right, but not if you're going to be a fag who thinks the same rules of fairness don't apply to him. When you're ready to admit that Peter McGough is right about Ronnie having the best back ever and his 01 ASC physique beating every version of Dorian except pre-contest 93, then I will agree with Dorian having better conditioning.

I don't care what you agree with , the facts are facts regardless of your denial and ignorance , the point wasn't about the conditioning , but you knew this which is another pathetic attempt at deflection that was merely to highlight your hypocrisy  ;D

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you're dumb as f*ck. According to you, muscular bulk, conditioning, symmetry and balance - you know, the criteria judges use to determine placings - are objective yet when a bodybuilding expert applies this criteria, it magically become subjective? lol

Still don't get it huh? ironic you call someone ' dumb as fuck ' who has the best bodypart is subjective , who was the best from two different eras is subjective , hence why there are so many different opinions , you being the biased person you are are trying to pass off your subjective popular opinion as fact and it's NOT how it works

Again Neo either Ronnie has short high underdeveloped calves when directly compared to Dorian Yates or he doesn't there is no room for debate on the topic , either Ronnie's quads dominate his calves in a manor in which Dorian's didn't or they do , there is no subjective opinion on this subject

See you know what subjective is and isn't but the whole crux of your position relies on popular and subjective opinions so you have to keep on this path of stupidity out of pride of not looking like you know what you're talking about , but don't fret you've already well established you don't eons ago when you claimed balance & proportion were the same things and I was merely typing they as separate to fluff up Dorian's advantages

It's obvious you don't have a fucking clue on what you're talking about , not on the subject of balance & proportion or density & dryness or on how contests are judged , you're in way over your head and committed to some very faulty positions and have been proven wrong , but again your foolish pride prevents you from learning which is why you continue to deny and rely on such faulty logic and appeals to the masses

You're like Hulkster in that regard to proud to admit you're obviously wrong and stupid to learn but then again I would too seeing after how many times I've corrected and embarrassed you  ;)

Thanks for playing Neo run along now Maser has grown tired of playing with his puppy  ;D

 

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Re: The Greatest Arnold Classic Winner ever
« Reply #289 on: March 30, 2010, 06:08:03 PM »
stop embarrassing yourself. That is a fan poll for favorite Mr. Olympia :-\

Duh gee how did you come to that conclusion? the part where it said FAN POLL  ::) no it was in Flex it's popular opinion it's law now  ::)

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Re: The Greatest Arnold Classic Winner ever
« Reply #290 on: March 30, 2010, 06:16:51 PM »
since you seem to think Ronnie is qualified to be an IFBB judge, do you agree with his assessment that he should have won the Mr O in 2006?

I absolutely do NOT think Ronnie is qualified to be an IFBB judge you knew this answer already , but his opinion matters just as much as any of your ' experts ' and it means a lot more than yours for you to dismiss it so casually shows your agenda

not one fucking-single of the experts you posted are IFBB judges on the subject yet you attempted to pass them off as law instead if what it is , an opinion on a subjective topic

Now to further embarrass you and your logic , you have outright dismissed a couple of IFBB judges , Dorian Yates when he said he was better balanced and had better conditioning than Ronnie , so judges don't matter , writers do ( only when they agree with your POV , what was McGough major again? English lit ring a bell? ) and a lot of writers really matter and fans too , lots of fans lmfao more flawed logic but don't fret I never expected anymore from you

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Re: The Greatest Arnold Classic Winner ever
« Reply #291 on: March 30, 2010, 06:43:31 PM »
Because you have personally dismissed people who have seen Dorian & Ronnie live and in person as wrong , this makes you a hypocrite for claiming I do it , textbook projection

who are these people and where did I dismiss them? lol

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oh no I was caught lying I just told you how I felt you want to believe what you want , knock yourself out . I've always maintained in fact that Flex could give Dorian trouble and Ronnie is one of the few guys who could beat Dorian it's old news I've been consistent with that but you're looking for any angle

fact: you claimed Dorian/Ronnie are tied
fact: you also claimed 93 ASC Flex would easily beat Ronnie but lose to Dorian

I'm not believing what I want. I'm simply going by what you wrote. ;)

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I proved my points after the fact mind you on a non-subjective topic , either Ronnie has high sub-par calves in relation to his quads or he doesn't when directly compared to Dorian there is no room for debate on the subject

no, you haven't proved anything. Prove that Dorian was more conditioned. Do you have the results of a skin caliper test or hydrostatic weighing? Prove that Dorian had better symmetry. Did he have a smaller waist and better taper? Did he have smaller joints? Do his left and right halves match up more evenly? Saying that Ronnie had a better back or a better physique is no less "subjective" than saying Dorian had better conditioning or symmetry since both are the opinions of the eye of the beholder.

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Irony alert Neo saying spare me the semantics LMFAO I will just laugh at the absurdity of you typing that , I never claimed he was tied I said exactly what they said , a strong case for Dorian being #1 can be made and many still feel he has the best back , Flex magazine is on record as saying Joel Stubbs had a better back than Ronnie and Dorian , so guess what which is it? it changes with the writer and depends on the person , you're stuck on claiming a hallow victory on such a subjective topic and are so desperate think you've accomplished something and you haven't

so you concede that Ronnie is on record for having the best back ever according to Flex magazine?

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I don't care what you agree with , the facts are facts regardless of your denial and ignorance , the point wasn't about the conditioning , but you knew this which is another pathetic attempt at deflection that was merely to highlight your hypocrisy

since you seemed to miss the point, I'll leave this here for you to read again.

"When you're ready to admit that Peter McGough is right about Ronnie having the best back ever and his 01 ASC physique beating every version of Dorian except pre-contest 93, then I will agree with Dorian having better conditioning."

let it be known that ND is afraid to acknowledge the credibility of his sources b/c he knows this weakens his argument. However, he has no problem using any of their quotes as long as they agree with him ::)

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Re: The Greatest Arnold Classic Winner ever
« Reply #292 on: March 30, 2010, 06:43:58 PM »
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but his opinion matters just as much as any of your ' experts ' and it means a lot more than yours for you to dismiss it so casually shows your agenda

so ND, given that you give ronnie credibility in his opinion, do you agree with his assessment of his 1999 physique being better than his 98 one as he stated in his victory seminar in 99?

LOL

once again, ND trapped by me  in his own words.


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Re: The Greatest Arnold Classic Winner ever
« Reply #293 on: March 30, 2010, 06:45:49 PM »
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Prove that Dorian was more conditioned. Do you have the results of a skin caliper test or hydrostatic weighing?

they could easily get a good bit of skin with the caliper on dorian's wrinkled flab on his lower back! ;D

all they would get on Ronnie would be dry striations. 8)
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Re: The Greatest Arnold Classic Winner ever
« Reply #294 on: March 30, 2010, 06:47:04 PM »
what is the deal with all these paragraphs i mean just look at some pictures its clear these guys are on different levels of musculature  ???

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Re: The Greatest Arnold Classic Winner ever
« Reply #295 on: March 30, 2010, 06:48:32 PM »
what is the deal with all these paragraphs i mean just look at some pictures its clear these guys are on different levels of musculature  ???

correct. its always been clear ronnie has been much better than dorian based on the visuals.

so thats why the nuthuggers have to post endless paragraphs and quotes of gibberish to try and bypass the damage the visuals do to their argument.
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Re: The Greatest Arnold Classic Winner ever
« Reply #296 on: March 30, 2010, 07:03:41 PM »
who are these people and where did I dismiss them? lol

fact: you claimed Dorian/Ronnie are tied
fact: you also claimed 93 ASC Flex would easily beat Ronnie but lose to Dorian

I'm not believing what I want. I'm simply going by what you wrote. ;)

no, you haven't proved anything. Prove that Dorian was more conditioned. Do you have the results of a skin caliper test or hydrostatic weighing? Prove that Dorian had better symmetry. Did he have a smaller waist and better taper? Did he have smaller joints? Do his left and right halves match up more evenly? Saying that Ronnie had a better back or a better physique is no less "subjective" than saying Dorian had better conditioning or symmetry since both are the opinions of the eye of the beholder.

so you concede that Ronnie is on record for having the best back ever according to Flex magazine?

since you seemed to miss the point, I'll leave this here for you to read again.

"When you're ready to admit that Peter McGough is right about Ronnie having the best back ever and his 01 ASC physique beating every version of Dorian except pre-contest 93, then I will agree with Dorian having better conditioning."

let it be known that ND is afraid to acknowledge the credibility of his sources b/c he knows this weakens his argument. However, he has no problem using any of their quotes as long as they agree with him ::)

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who are these people and where did I dismiss them? lol

Dorian Yates , Peter McGough , all the experts who said 2001 is his best , IFBB judges , Ronnie Coleman himself stop being stupid I know it's hard

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fact: you claimed Dorian/Ronnie are tied
fact: you also claimed 93 ASC Flex would easily beat Ronnie but lose to Dorian

I'm not believing what I want. I'm simply going by what you wrote. ;)

I just told you how I felt and I've been consistent in those facts and no I just wrote I thinks all three are capable of beating each other but you glossed over that as usual

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no, you haven't proved anything. Prove that Dorian was more conditioned. Do you have the results of a skin caliper test or hydrostatic weighing? Prove that Dorian had better symmetry. Did he have a smaller waist and better taper? Did he have smaller joints? Do his left and right halves match up more evenly? Saying that Ronnie had a better back or a better physique is no less "subjective" than saying Dorian had better conditioning or symmetry since both are the opinions of the eye of the beholder.

yeah Okay I provided the quotes from the experts on a NONE subjective topic conditioning , and it's you who has denied the experts the onus is on YOU dumb ass to disproved he's not and posting a pic and saying ' see ' isn't proof , proof he isn't and good luck and try and learn what great conditioning is before you commit to a reply

Same with symmetry especially under the bodybuilding context which means more than just small joints and waist & hips , it also includes muscular balance & proportion , muscle length , width , etc , stop harping on PART of the word while omitting the rest which is the problem your POV is to narrow , does Ronnie meet that part of symmetry better than Dorian better ? sure does he meet the balance & proportion part better? NO

These things are in the eyes of the beholder who knows what they're looking for and that sure as fuck isn't you , it's easy to say who has smaller joints when standing next to each other there fore NOT subjective , to say who has the best back from two photos with different lighting , quality and criteria on which constitutes a better back is very subjective , a concept you still can't grasp

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so you concede that Ronnie is on record for having the best back ever according to Flex magazine?

No according to Flex it's Joel Stubbs  ;)

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since you seemed to miss the point, I'll leave this here for you to read again.

"When you're ready to admit that Peter McGough is right about Ronnie having the best back ever and his 01 ASC physique beating every version of Dorian except pre-contest 93, then I will agree with Dorian having better conditioning."

let it be known that ND is afraid to acknowledge the credibility of his sources b/c he knows this weakens his argument. However, he has no problem using any of their quotes as long as they agree with him ::)

subjective vs non-subjective learn the difference and you're the moron who claimed if you buy into one single quote from a guy you're now bound to every single one , this is your logic typed by YOU , which doesn't apply to you because you agree with McGough one minute and flat-out dismissed him the next


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Re: The Greatest Arnold Classic Winner ever
« Reply #297 on: March 30, 2010, 07:05:27 PM »
so ND, given that you give ronnie credibility in his opinion, do you agree with his assessment of his 1999 physique being better than his 98 one as he stated in his victory seminar in 99?

LOL

once again, ND trapped by me  in his own words.


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I agree with Ronnie ALL three times he said he was better in 1998 in coincides with the majority of experts and reality  ;)

I also agree with Ronnie when he said on three separate occasions he wouldn't touch Dorian  ;)

once again Hulkster owned by me using his own hero

sucks to be you as usual.

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Re: The Greatest Arnold Classic Winner ever
« Reply #298 on: March 30, 2010, 07:25:31 PM »
they could easily get a good bit of skin with the caliper on dorian's wrinkled flab on his lower back! ;D

all they would get on Ronnie would be dry striations. 8)
Have you ever even watched a video? When Dorian hits his lat spread, after he spreads, he cocks his back backwards, loosening up the skin.,
Ronnie leans forwards when he does his spread, pulling the lower back tight.
I swear to god you never have watched a video in your life.
Your such a blind moron.

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Re: The Greatest Arnold Classic Winner ever
« Reply #299 on: March 30, 2010, 07:27:11 PM »
so ND, given that you give ronnie credibility in his opinion, do you agree with his assessment of his 1999 physique being better than his 98 one as he stated in his victory seminar in 99?

LOL

once again, ND trapped by me  in his own words.


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Oh, you mean like the 3 times he said 98 was better, all made AFTER he the victory cerimony, thereby AMENDING his previous statement?
Oh thats right, no one EVER says they were better last year after they just won a show.
Hulkster I mean really, you would be smart to never ever mention Ronnie's opinion when you try and argue that 99 was his best, cause quite frankly, Ronnie himself destroys your argument, you fucking toolbag.