How big do you think Phil's arms are gonna get?

[Parker]

After posting something in the T-Rex arms thread, I noticed that arm size has been quite stagnant for the past few yrs since Coleman left the game. We all know Coleman had some guns, measured at 24 inches.
Now, since Phil is the most prominant (not necessarily the biggest) gunslinger, and allegedly his are 21.5-22s, how big do you think he'll go by the end of his career? Will he max out at 24 himself? Now I know that there guys like McMillian, Khan and Roelly waiting in the wings with some freaky arms, and they may overtake him, how big do you think they will go as well?

I say Phil will max out at 23.5-24 35-37 yrs old. 

[beefcakeblake]

After posting something in the T-Rex arms thread, I noticed that arm size has been quite stagnant for the past few yrs since Coleman left the game. We all know Coleman had some guns, measured at 24 inches.
Now, since Phil is the most prominant (not necessarily the biggest) gunslinger, and allegedly his are 21.5-22s, how big do you think he'll go by the end of his career? Will he max out at 24 himself? Now I know that there guys like McMillian, Khan and Roelly waiting in the wings with some freaky arms, and they may overtake him, how big do you think they will go as well?

I say Phil will max out at 23.5-24 35-37 yrs old. 

How big are Kai's, his look bigger then heaths.

[TRIX]

his arms are maxed out.. 20 inch contest

[Lion666]

How big are Kai's, his look bigger then heaths.

qft
they did at the arnold

[marty31672]

i dont think he's so concerned with there size as he is there shape and condition
personally i've always thought phil was never quit "grainy" enough on stage

[Relentless]

Im going to say it right here and now - Phil cannot get any larger without having a HUGE gut.  He's maxed out on size + aesthetics.  Honestly, I think his belly is getting bigger each contest.

[Parker]

i dont think he's so concerned with there size as he is there shape and condition
personally i've always thought phil was never quit "grainy" enough on stage

The grainy look comes with age, he has plenty of detail.

As far as Kai's there maybe a possibility that they are bigger, but Phil's look better.

I don't know if Phil has mazes out, if he is 236 (approx) for this past Arnold, then him being maxed out makes him far less genetically gifted than one would have thought. I do think his obliques make him look like he has a wide waist, and true it looks like he can't get bigger. But this was said last yr, and look what happened.

[Emmortal]

The grainy look comes with age, he has plenty of detail.

As far as Kai's there maybe a possibility that they are bigger, but Phil's look better.

I don't know if Phil has mazes out, if he is 236 (approx) for this past Arnold, then him being maxed out makes him far less genetically gifted than one would have thought. I do think his obliques make him look like he has a wide waist, and true it looks like he can't get bigger. But this was said last yr, and look what happened.

Nah, I believe it comes from heavy duty style training whereas Phil is all volume.

[TRIX]

[Parker]

Nah, I believe it comes from heavy duty style training whereas Phil is all volume.

Training Heavy Duty has no bearing on Muscle Maturity, that comes in the 30s, I read in JAMA a few yrs back that it was late 30s-40s, but since we are dealing with dudes on the sauce, Id gather that is sped up. Your statement is again negated because Dexter has that grainy look to his muscles. Usually you will see dudes in their 40s and 50s with that grainy look, at least my uncle did, and one of the football coaches at Morgan State did. They were all in their 40s-50s, my uncle still has that look. As a matter of fact, he doesn't lift and has forearms to die for.

[Wiggs]

his arms are maxed out.. 20 inch contest

he measured them offseason at 270 in the gift unwrapped.  They were 22.  No way in hell he loses 2 inches when in shape. An inch...MAX.  They are 21 in shape

[Meso_z]

After posting something in the T-Rex arms thread, I noticed that arm size has been quite stagnant for the past few yrs since Coleman left the game. We all know Coleman had some guns, measured at 24 inches.
Now, since Phil is the most prominant (not necessarily the biggest) gunslinger, and allegedly his are 21.5-22s, how big do you think he'll go by the end of his career? Will he max out at 24 himself? Now I know that there guys like McMillian, Khan and Roelly waiting in the wings with some freaky arms, and they may overtake him, how big do you think they will go as well?

I say Phil will max out at 23.5-24 35-37 yrs old. 

I think it doesnt really matter how big he will get them measured with a tape.

The only thing that matters is how big they look to the eye, in videos, in photos....and they are already LARGE and impressive as fuck..

[mesmorph78]

You definetley take arms serious don't you Parker ... Always making the arm threads

[~UN_$ung~]

The grainy look comes with age, he has plenty of detail.

As far as Kai's there maybe a possibility that they are bigger, but Phil's look better.

I don't know if Phil has mazes out, if he is 236 (approx) for this past Arnold, then him being maxed out makes him far less genetically gifted than one would have thought. I do think his obliques make him look like he has a wide waist, and true it looks like he can't get bigger. But this was said last yr, and look what happened.

something i noticed, i think getting "grainy" has a racial component, (some of the time) just like black competitors having overall smaller waists, or higher calves

maybe it due to more natural androgens, or somethig i cant explain......but i think if you look at competitors at show level body fat levels......black guys on the whole seem to carry a little bit more water then a white guy with equal BF levels

for example, your rarely to never see a black guy get that look branch warren had at the olympia, or the graniness paco acheives, or the munzer condition, or jay this past year, or some of the yates years maybe it has something to do with melatonin, im not sure

[JP_RC]

Nah, I believe it comes from heavy duty style training whereas Phil is all volume.

It has nothing to do with heavy duty style of training. I think its genetics and years training, at least muscle maturity comes from a good number of years training.

Look at Mark Dugdale, he trains HIT yet has no grainy look. On the other hand, look at Dexter, Priest, etc. they are all volume trainers and have the grainy look.

[Parker]

You definetley take arms serious don't you Parker ... Always making the arm threads

Ha, at one time I did, that was all I trained, I like the look of big arms... Actually I have been on getbig, too addictive and I need to get back in the gym...but I will go back and not be lifting weights. I always wanted to take up Capoeira, but there have not been classes within a reasonable distance.. Until now.

Un-sung, I kinda agree, it also may have to do with skin tone as well. The lighter the skin tone, the more easy it is to see the "graininess". I remember seeing the football coach at my college who is black and in his 40s, and trains and eats old skool... He had that grainy look, but you had to be close by to see it. It's kinda like how Ronnie has that "denseness" to his muscle, soemthing you don't get unless you train heavy and for a long while.

[Mr Nobody]

After posting something in the T-Rex arms thread, I noticed that arm size has been quite stagnant for the past few yrs since Coleman left the game. We all know Coleman had some guns, measured at 24 inches.
Now, since Phil is the most prominant (not necessarily the biggest) gunslinger, and allegedly his are 21.5-22s, how big do you think he'll go by the end of his career? Will he max out at 24 himself? Now I know that there guys like McMillian, Khan and Roelly waiting in the wings with some freaky arms, and they may overtake him, how big do you think they will go as well?

I say Phil will max out at 23.5-24 35-37 yrs old. 

I dont think they will get much bigger with his frame, they are huge on that mofo already.

[Figo]

I suppose he'll carry on supplementing their size with synthol as long as they dont look too ridiculous

[~UN_$ung~]

I suppose he'll carry on supplementing their size with synthol as long as they dont look too ridiculous

the rule of thumb with synthol is your using too much if people start to question if your using it.......

tons of pros are currently using synthol, but just for some size here or there

the key is to keep it subtle and make sure no bodyparts start to stand out or look asymetrical

like this fella, this is a good example of SEOs being discretely employed to help bring up a lagging bodypart


remember...your not supposed to be able to tell what muscle he is using it in

anyone have any guesses?

[Parker]

the rule of thumb with synthol is your using too much if people start to question if your using it.......

tons of pros are currently using synthol, but just for some size here or there

the key is to keep it subtle and make sure no bodyparts start to stand out or look asymetrical

like this fella, this is a good example of SEOs being discretely employed to help bring up a lagging bodypart


remember...your not supposed to be able to tell what muscle he is using it in

anyone have any guesses?

in Phil's first vid he comments on the fact that you get to see his arms in the offseason or when dieting down, and see that there are no lumps and bumps on his arms..."that's not a knock on other pros..."

[The Showstoppa]

Are we talking length?

[JasonH]

he measured them offseason at 270 in the gift unwrapped.  They were 22.  No way in hell he loses 2 inches when in shape. An inch...MAX.  They are 21 in shape

That's surprising - I would have said they were even bigger than 22 offseason - they look absolutely huge when compared with his torso - but maybe that's the illusion.

[~UN_$ung~]

in Phil's first vid he comments on the fact that you get to see his arms in the offseason or when dieting down, and see that there are no lumps and bumps on his arms..."that's not a knock on other pros..."

i didnt mean phil.....i dont believe he uses synthol......too much detail in his arms......even with discreet synthol usage, the muscle starts to get that washed out look, like flex wheeler, nasser, milos, later in their careers


i just wanted an excuse to post pics of that dude

[CT_Muscle]

he measured them offseason at 270 in the gift unwrapped.  They were 22.  No way in hell he loses 2 inches when in shape. An inch...MAX.  They are 21 in shape

 

Are you fucking nuts he loses 30+ lbs and only loses an inch in his arms  YOU know better than this FFS

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no official measurements--»  threads about how big are his arms = pure speculation --» no point discussing

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