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Re: Do NOX products really work?
« Reply #25 on: March 26, 2010, 04:57:08 AM »
I've tried alot of them and even though the caffeine helps and you do get a better pump i'm pretty sure i've never gained a single lb. of muscle because of it.IMO use it if you got the money,otherwise buy eggs and steak with it(and some caffeine tabs).
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Re: Do NOX products really work?
« Reply #26 on: March 26, 2010, 04:59:31 AM »
Creatine is the only natural thing I found that works, the rest is shit other than a placebo effect.

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Re: Do NOX products really work?
« Reply #27 on: March 26, 2010, 05:16:04 AM »
NOX works.

The base amino that defines NOX is Arginine...it increases nitric oxide....so technically, if a supp. has Arginine, then it's NOX.....but I wouldn't buy anything that's primarily Arginine ....

Where NOX works is when they combine it with other aminos such as Beta-Alanine, Citrulline Malate and Tyrosine....Citrulline has shown to increase nitric oxide more than Arginine; and also increases resistance to fatigue and increases ATP (like creatine).....pretty impressive right?.....Beta-Alanine helps suppress lactic acid and delays muscle fatigue....Tyorsine hepls improve mental alterness and mood (think better focus in the gym).....

Vasocharge by Scivation has all these aminos...I love this supp...worth every cent....2+ hours in the gym.....love it....then a massive feed afterwards.....hell yeh!

For me there's no doubt a good NOX product works.

Creatine + NOX = wouldn't train without it......btw, I'm natural, I don't stick a needle in my ass....so this is as good as it gets (I can hear the anabolic heros laughing)....each to their own right




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Re: Do NOX products really work?
« Reply #28 on: March 26, 2010, 05:19:04 AM »
NO products are completely useless for improving body composition.
Same as all natural "test boosters".

See also page 4 of this thread.

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Re: Do NOX products really work?
« Reply #29 on: March 26, 2010, 05:19:37 AM »
Gaspari Plasmajet is great,banned over here though so I cant sell it but use it myself
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Re: Do NOX products really work?
« Reply #30 on: March 26, 2010, 07:07:44 AM »
NOX works.

The base amino that defines NOX is Arginine...it increases nitric oxide....so technically, if a supp. has Arginine, then it's NOX.....but I wouldn't buy anything that's primarily Arginine ....

Where NOX works is when they combine it with other aminos such as Beta-Alanine, Citrulline Malate and Tyrosine....Citrulline has shown to increase nitric oxide more than Arginine; and also increases resistance to fatigue and increases ATP (like creatine).....pretty impressive right?.....Beta-Alanine helps suppress lactic acid and delays muscle fatigue....Tyorsine hepls improve mental alterness and mood (think better focus in the gym).....

Vasocharge by Scivation has all these aminos...I love this supp...worth every cent....2+ hours in the gym.....love it....then a massive feed afterwards.....hell yeh!

For me there's no doubt a good NOX product works.

Creatine + NOX = wouldn't train without it......btw, I'm natural, I don't stick a needle in my ass....so this is as good as it gets (I can hear the anabolic heros laughing)....each to their own right






Yes.....they work just fine.

I take NOX occasionally because you can't take it every workout or your body gets used to them. But when i do use it i get so pumped i can barely move...it's no placebo. and i have great energy and focus.

Some people don't get shit out of sups and some respond

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Re: Do NOX products really work?
« Reply #31 on: March 26, 2010, 07:59:58 AM »
I love NO-Explode and Shotgun by VPX is also good - I think they're a great pre-cursor to muscle stimulation and I have genuinely made more gains using them than when I didn't. They may not work for some people but they do work on me.

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Re: Do NOX products really work?
« Reply #32 on: March 26, 2010, 11:24:46 AM »
Just a couple of things:

50mg of waxy maize? WTF? Of course I know the reason it's there - just looks good on the label.
Same deal on the citrulline (6000mg might increase endurance, but 50mg?), betaine, glucoronolactone and several other ingredients. Doses that do nothing - just label filler to fool the customer.

Creatine Ethyl Ester - proven to not work in research.

Arginine - hasn't been shown to increase nitric oxide in humans via oral delivery. The "pump" from this is imaginary.

Only thing useful I find in there is the caffeine. 200mg, same as a strong cup of coffee. No hating, the formula is just shit.

There are studies that have proven Arginine does support the increase of blood flow to skeletal muscle.. I'll have to disagree with you on this.  It is still a new substance that is being researched, but I wouldn't go so far and say the pump is imaginary, granted I'm sure many people over exaggerate it, but it is there and noticeable.

Yes the Caffeine is effective, so is the creatine included, the Beta-alanine, and the Tyrosine and of course the Arginine.

I know the Waxy Maize does look funny at a small qty like that, but I believe its there as a means to control the texture of the product itself.  Its not meant to be there for your pre-work out carbohydrate intake!

Dude its a good product. 

I've taken other products some I've liked and some i haven't liked!  But this is the one that I've liked the most!

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Re: Do NOX products really work?
« Reply #33 on: March 26, 2010, 12:07:13 PM »
of course it works:

this is a user before:







and after:




looking good uberman can really see the improvement in your before and after. kudos to you.
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Re: Do NOX products really work?
« Reply #34 on: March 26, 2010, 01:17:30 PM »
There are studies that have proven Arginine does support the increase of blood flow to skeletal muscle.. I'll have to disagree with you on this.  It is still a new substance that is being researched, but I wouldn't go so far and say the pump is imaginary, granted I'm sure many people over exaggerate it, but it is there and noticeable.

Yes the Caffeine is effective, so is the creatine included, the Beta-alanine, and the Tyrosine and of course the Arginine.

I know the Waxy Maize does look funny at a small qty like that, but I believe its there as a means to control the texture of the product itself.  Its not meant to be there for your pre-work out carbohydrate intake!

Dude its a good product. 

I've taken other products some I've liked and some i haven't liked!  But this is the one that I've liked the most!

I don't get all the people that say the pump is "imaginary"...i take this shit and I get a RIDICULOUS pump. as well as energy.

It's not in my head


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Re: Do NOX products really work?
« Reply #35 on: March 26, 2010, 01:30:35 PM »
I don't get all the people that say the pump is "imaginary"...i take this shit and I get a RIDICULOUS pump. as well as energy.

It's not in my head



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Re: Do NOX products really work?
« Reply #36 on: March 26, 2010, 01:40:54 PM »


as I said in another thread, just use caffeine tabs plus cheap creatine

save money, live better

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Re: Do NOX products really work?
« Reply #37 on: March 26, 2010, 02:11:37 PM »
I don't get all the people that say the pump is "imaginary"...i take this shit and I get a RIDICULOUS pump. as well as energy.

It's not in my head


lol!

are you "sponsored" too now?  :D

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Re: Do NOX products really work?
« Reply #38 on: March 26, 2010, 02:30:20 PM »


as I said in another thread, just use caffeine tabs plus cheap creatine

save money, live better

I tried that about ten years ago and it doesn't work in the slightest.

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Re: Do NOX products really work?
« Reply #39 on: March 26, 2010, 06:09:22 PM »
I know the Waxy Maize does look funny at a small qty like that, but I believe its there as a means to control the texture of the product itself.  Its not meant to be there for your pre-work out carbohydrate intake!



Then why isn't it beside the maltodextrin in the "other ingredients" panel? ;) :D 50mg won't do shit for texture, there's only one reason it's there on the label, among many of the other ingredients.

If I were to take a product such as this I would go with the Scivation one mentioned before. High dosages of everything and a few proven ingredients.

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Re: Do NOX products really work?
« Reply #40 on: March 26, 2010, 06:09:55 PM »
I don't get all the people that say the pump is "imaginary"...i take this shit and I get a RIDICULOUS pump. as well as energy.

It's not in my head



Which specific product(s) are effective for you?

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Re: Do NOX products really work?
« Reply #41 on: March 26, 2010, 06:14:08 PM »
NOX works for people who have never done real rec/ drugs before...People who have no clue what it feels like to feel out of their element...Hell coffee to young adults is like crack when they first do it...Nos is garbage and if you think it isn't, you are a fucking nerd...

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Re: Do NOX products really work?
« Reply #42 on: March 26, 2010, 06:49:49 PM »
Which specific product(s) are effective for you?

American bodybuildings  Nos product works for me.  They sell it at Hi Health for 2.00  I'll take one every now and again and it does exactly what they say it does.....I get a CRAZY pump and a caffeine rush. I'm not expecting miracles...just a good kick in the ass, which it delivers.

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Re: Do NOX products really work?
« Reply #43 on: March 26, 2010, 07:02:12 PM »
American bodybuildings  Nos product works for me.  They sell it at Hi Health for 2.00  I'll take one every now and again and it does exactly what they say it does.....I get a CRAZY pump and a caffeine rush. I'm not expecting miracles...just a good kick in the ass, which it delivers.

The SPEED STACK PUMPED N.O.? So it's 300mg of caffeine, 3 grams of Arginines, a little taurine, electrolytes and a little glycerol. I just doubt the arginine (the "NO" portion) is doing much if anything. Of course you could try if you noticed anything from a few arginine pills, which I very much doubt. Arginine supplements have been on the market for decades and no one noticed any pumps until they were sold specifically for that purpose.

The glycerol keeps water in circulation so if you're more pumped it's that if anything IMO, and obviously the high caffeine dose gives a rush. Actually just staying well hydrated will optimize "pumps".

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Re: Do NOX products really work?
« Reply #44 on: March 26, 2010, 07:29:37 PM »
The SPEED STACK PUMPED N.O.? So it's 300mg of caffeine, 3 grams of Arginines, a little taurine, electrolytes and a little glycerol. I just doubt the arginine (the "NO" portion) is doing much if anything. Of course you could try if you noticed anything from a few arginine pills, which I very much doubt. Arginine supplements have been on the market for decades and no one noticed any pumps until they were sold specifically for that purpose.

The glycerol keeps water in circulation so if you're more pumped it's that if anything IMO, and obviously the high caffeine dose gives a rush. Actually just staying well hydrated will optimize "pumps".

That's not it..i checked. i'm not sure what brand it is TBH, but it's got citruline malate in it too.

Regardless.... you are making me laugh by telling me what it does and what i'm feeling..It does EXACTLY what they say it does for me, the pumps are insane and it gives me a ton of energy....if it doesn't work for you i don't know what to tell you.

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Re: Do NOX products really work?
« Reply #45 on: March 26, 2010, 07:34:30 PM »
That's not it..i checked. i'm not sure what brand it is TBH, but it's got citruline malate in it too.

Regardless.... you are making me laugh by telling me what it does and what i'm feeling..It does EXACTLY what they say it does for me, the pumps are insane and it gives me a ton of energy....if it doesn't work for you i don't know what to tell you.

Pop some anti-estrogens bro.  You sound like my bitch of an ex g/f.  "You don't know how I feel!"   

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Re: Do NOX products really work?
« Reply #46 on: March 26, 2010, 07:36:11 PM »
That's not it..i checked. i'm not sure what brand it is TBH, but it's got citruline malate in it too.

Regardless.... you are making me laugh by telling me what it does and what i'm feeling..It does EXACTLY what they say it does for me, the pumps are insane and it gives me a ton of energy....if it doesn't work for you i don't know what to tell you.

Well, you have Elite Genetics, so maybe it's that.
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Re: Do NOX products really work?
« Reply #47 on: March 26, 2010, 07:38:27 PM »
Well, you have Elite Genetics, so maybe it's that.

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Re: Do NOX products really work?
« Reply #48 on: March 26, 2010, 07:39:58 PM »
Pop some anti-estrogens bro.  You sound like my bitch of an ex g/f.  "You don't know how I feel!"   

I was talking about physically...you penis-puller   >:(

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Re: Do NOX products really work?
« Reply #49 on: March 26, 2010, 07:49:03 PM »
Then why isn't it beside the maltodextrin in the "other ingredients" panel? ;) :D 50mg won't do shit for texture, there's only one reason it's there on the label, among many of the other ingredients.


You'll notice on the site they have a few highlights on the main ingredients and composition of the product, and Wazy maize is not listed there...   You raise some interesting points, and now made me curious, so I'm gonna contact them to see the real purpose of it being included.  If i hear back and I will post here for conversation purposes!