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How laughable and stupid of the republicans calling Obama the AntiChrist, when we all know it is CHENEY!!!!!!

Almost a quarter of Republicans think Obama 'may be the Antichrist' as 14 states sue over healthcare reforms

By David Gardner
Last updated at 10:23 PM on 24th March 2010

Americans who suggest Barack Obama should rot in hell are apparently deadly serious.

Nearly a quarter of Republicans believe the Democrat president 'may be the Antichrist', according to a survey.

An even greater number compared him to Hitler.


Just another boys' club: Barack Obama, centre on the phone, is surrounded by male aides at the White House as they plot healthcare reform this week in a new image released today. The President has been compared to the Antichrist

Mr Obama was jubilant this week after securing his £626billion healthcare reform plan.

But his triumph seems only to have inflamed his critics among the evangelical Christians from America's heartland who kept George Bush in power for eight years and have demonised his successor.
 
More than half of the Republicans quizzed by Harris Poll, 57 per cent, believed the president was secretly Muslim, something he has consistently denied.

And 67 per cent of Republicans who responded believed Obama was a socialist, despite his central leanings.

The startling results came as lawyers representing 14 U.S. states filed lawsuits yesterday challenging an overhaul of the country's $2.5trillion healthcare system, minutes after President Barack Obama signed the landmark legislation.

One joint lawsuit by a dozen Republican attorneys general and a Democrat claims the sweeping reforms violate state-government rights in the U.S. Constitution and will force massive new spending on hard-pressed state governments.

Virginia went to court separately, while Missouri Republican Lieutenant Governor Peter Kinder said he would like to join the suit.
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'A big f****** deal': Mr Biden (second left) gaffed as the president signed the historic healthcare reform bill

The joint suit, led by Florida, was filed with a federal court in Pensacola, according to the office of Florida Attorney General Bill McCollum.

In addition to McCollum, the Republican attorneys general from Alabama, Colorado, Idaho, Michigan, Nebraska, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, South Dakota, Texas, Utah and Washington joined the suit.

The lawsuit says the law - which expands government health plans for the poor, imposes new taxes on the wealthy and requires insurers to cover people with pre-existing medical conditions - violates the Constitution's commerce clause by requiring nearly all Americans to buy health insurance.

Mr McCollum said: 'It forces people to do something - in the sense of buying a healthcare policy or paying a penalty, a tax or a fine - that simply the Constitution does not allow Congress to do.'

Mr McCollum, who is seeking the Republican nomination to run for Florida governor, said the healthcare reforms would add $1.6billion to Florida's spending on the Medicaid health program for the poor.

The Justice Department, which is responsible for defending U.S. law in court, pledged to vigorously fight any challenges to the new healthcare law.

'We are confident that this statute is constitutional and we will prevail,' said Justice spokesman Charles Miller.

The White House agreed the suits would fail.

'There have been hearings about the constitutionality of the law, and I think there's pretty much widespread agreement that it is constitutional,' Nancy-Ann DeParle, director of the White House Office of Health Reform, said.

'I think we have governors who might be aiming for higher office who are starting to just send a message.'

The suits were filed just moments after Mr Obama signed the healthcare reforms into law.

But on the most historic occasion of his presidency so far, vice-president Joe Biden managed to put his foot in it.

Gaffe-prone Mr Biden inadvertently broadcast the F-word to America after he introduced the President to sign his much vaunted health reform bill into law yesterday.

After hugging Mr Obama at a a ceremony in the White House, Mr Biden leaned in and whispered in the President's ear: 'This is a big f****** deal.'

The remark was caught on microphones recording the event that was shown live across the country. By last night, the clip was being replayed all over the internet.

White House aides seemed to be unembarrassed, with press secretary Robert Gibbs later tweeting: 'Yes, Mr Vice-President, you're right.'

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1260195/U-S-healthcare-reform-14-rebel-states-sue.html#ixzz0jLPHH6Cn
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Re: Almost a quarter of Republicans think Obama 'may be the Antichrist'
« Reply #1 on: March 26, 2010, 08:50:29 PM »
LOL how many libs thought bush was? hahahahaah

havent you started many threads about how the illuminati bullshit is controlling the presidents and how they are satanists or something?

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Re: Almost a quarter of Republicans think Obama 'may be the Antichrist'
« Reply #2 on: March 26, 2010, 10:02:36 PM »
LOL how many libs thought bush was? hahahahaah

havent you started many threads about how the illuminati bullshit is controlling the presidents and how they are satanists or something?

Cheney is a better CT

the much larger problem (for Repubs) is that ~ 25% believe in this antichrist thing

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Re: Almost a quarter of Republicans think Obama 'may be the Antichrist'
« Reply #3 on: March 26, 2010, 10:31:32 PM »
the much larger problem (for Repubs) is that ~ 25% believe in this antichrist thing

thts fckin crazy

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Re: Almost a quarter of Republicans think Obama 'may be the Antichrist'
« Reply #4 on: March 26, 2010, 10:34:04 PM »
Cheney is a better CT

the much larger problem (for Repubs) is that ~ 25% believe in this antichrist thing
I suppose youd like to get into another debate that ends in you not being able to disprove religion?

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Re: Almost a quarter of Republicans think Obama 'may be the Antichrist'
« Reply #5 on: March 26, 2010, 10:41:31 PM »
I suppose youd like to get into another debate that ends in you not being able to disprove religion?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_ignorance

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Re: Almost a quarter of Republicans think Obama 'may be the Antichrist'
« Reply #6 on: March 26, 2010, 10:46:21 PM »
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_ignorance
hahahhahha you see thats your problem I dont say I know God exists I believe he does...you on the other hand run around acting as if its a fact he doesnt...

you see when you have 2 opposing hypothesis and one cant be proven that doesnt mean that the other one is proven...that means that if falls in the grey area

whether I can prove my arguement or not is not the problem as I openly admit im not sure, its whether you can prove yours

in other words from your own link no less

The argument from ignorance,[1] also known as argumentum ad ignorantiam ("appeal to ignorance"[1][2]), or negative evidence,[1] is a logical fallacy in which it is claimed that a premise is true only because it has not been proven false, or is false only because it has not been proven true.

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Re: Almost a quarter of Republicans think Obama 'may be the Antichrist'
« Reply #7 on: March 26, 2010, 10:47:06 PM »
oh ya forgot to add one of these  ;)

nice try though hoss

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Re: Almost a quarter of Republicans think Obama 'may be the Antichrist'
« Reply #8 on: March 26, 2010, 10:59:51 PM »
oh ya forgot to add one of these  ;)

nice try though hoss

sorry I felt lazy

I assume you didn't bother to click on the link and read it

right?


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Re: Almost a quarter of Republicans think Obama 'may be the Antichrist'
« Reply #9 on: March 26, 2010, 11:04:23 PM »
in other words from your own link no less

The argument from ignorance,[1] also known as argumentum ad ignorantiam ("appeal to ignorance"[1][2]), or negative evidence,[1] is a logical fallacy in which it is claimed that a premise is true only because it has not been proven false, or is false only because it has not been proven true.
apparently hoss you didnt read it  ;)


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Re: Almost a quarter of Republicans think Obama 'may be the Antichrist'
« Reply #10 on: March 26, 2010, 11:05:34 PM »
apparently hoss you didnt read it  ;)

sorry

maybe I misunderstand

what exact point are you trying to make?

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Re: Almost a quarter of Republicans think Obama 'may be the Antichrist'
« Reply #11 on: March 26, 2010, 11:07:39 PM »
I suppose youd like to get into another debate that ends in you not being able to disprove religion?
just say no and go to bed bud

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Re: Almost a quarter of Republicans think Obama 'may be the Antichrist'
« Reply #12 on: March 26, 2010, 11:12:03 PM »
just say no and go to bed bud

it's only 11:07 where I live

let's review

I WROTE:

Cheney is a better CT

the much larger problem (for Repubs) is that ~ 25% believe in this antichrist thing

YOU WROTE

I suppose youd like to get into another debate that ends in you not being able to disprove religion?

I don't get what point you're trying to make

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Re: Almost a quarter of Republicans think Obama 'may be the Antichrist'
« Reply #13 on: March 26, 2010, 11:14:23 PM »
LOL nevermind just please dont use that arguement from ignorance line again as hopefully you see that you are guilty of that as well  ;)

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Re: Almost a quarter of Republicans think Obama 'may be the Antichrist'
« Reply #14 on: March 26, 2010, 11:15:31 PM »
LOL nevermind just please dont use that arguement from ignorance line again as hopefully you see that you are guilty of that as well  ;)

stop offering an argument from ignorance and I'll stop pointing it out

deal?

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Re: Almost a quarter of Republicans think Obama 'may be the Antichrist'
« Reply #15 on: March 26, 2010, 11:21:18 PM »
stop offering an argument from ignorance and I'll stop pointing it out

deal?
LOL again read your own link

your argument is based off that, do you not understand this fact?

I openly admit Im not sure, do you?

from your own link brainchild...

"The argument from ignorance,[1] also known as argumentum ad ignorantiam ("appeal to ignorance"[1][2]), or negative evidence,[1] is a logical fallacy in which it is claimed that a premise is true only because it has not been proven false, or is false only because it has not been proven true."

can you prove there is no God? no well then believing so only b/c I cannot prove there is one is an argument from ignorance


LOL talk about ignorance, how do I have to explain your own concept to you?

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Re: Almost a quarter of Republicans think Obama 'may be the Antichrist'
« Reply #16 on: March 26, 2010, 11:24:38 PM »
LOL again read your own link

you arguement is based off that, do you not understand this fact?
I openly admit Im not sure, do you?

from your own link brainchild...

"The argument from ignorance,[1] also known as argumentum ad ignorantiam ("appeal to ignorance"[1][2]), or negative evidence,[1] is a logical fallacy in which it is claimed that a premise is true only because it has not been proven false, or is false only because it has not been proven true."

can you prove there is no God? no well then believing so only b/c I cannot prove there is one is an argument from ignorance


LOL talk about ignorance, how do I have to explain your own concept to you?


what fact?

your point is I can't disprove the "anti-christ"?

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Re: Almost a quarter of Republicans think Obama 'may be the Antichrist'
« Reply #17 on: March 26, 2010, 11:34:51 PM »
what fact?

your point is I can't disprove the "anti-christ"?
what was your point in posting that link?

And no you can't disprove the anti christ just like you can't disprove God, so you saying there is no God simply bc it hasn't been proven is what straw? Come big boy you can do it connect the dots

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Re: Almost a quarter of Republicans think Obama 'may be the Antichrist'
« Reply #18 on: March 26, 2010, 11:38:45 PM »
what was your point in posting that link?

And no you can't disprove the anti christ just like you can't disprove God, so you saying there is no God simply bc it hasn't been proven is what straw? Come big boy you can do it connect the dots

the fact that you can't disprove something is not in any way proof that it exists

I don't need to disprove the concept of an "anticrhris" in order to not believe it

that's the point

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Re: Almost a quarter of Republicans think Obama 'may be the Antichrist'
« Reply #19 on: March 26, 2010, 11:40:37 PM »
Roughly 1/2 the country is republican

So, 1 in 8 people you see on the street believes our President is one under the direct control of the Devil, who will lead the abomination in the end times.

LMAO...

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Re: Almost a quarter of Republicans think Obama 'may be the Antichrist'
« Reply #20 on: March 26, 2010, 11:43:08 PM »
Roughly 1/2 the country is republican

So, 1 in 8 people you see on the street believes our President is one under the direct control of the Devil, who will lead the abomination in the end times.

LMAO...

you have to factor in the people who don't vote as well


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Re: Almost a quarter of Republicans think Obama 'may be the Antichrist'
« Reply #21 on: March 26, 2010, 11:45:13 PM »
the fact that you can't disprove something is not in any way proof that it exists

I don't need to disprove the concept of an "anticrhris" in order to not believe it

that's the point
and the fact I can't prove God exists is not in anyway proof that he doesnt ;)

and I never said that bc you can't disprove him proves him...

Again read your link

what was the point of posting that link again?



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Re: Almost a quarter of Republicans think Obama 'may be the Antichrist'
« Reply #22 on: March 26, 2010, 11:51:47 PM »
and the fact I can't prove God exists is not in anyway proof that he doesnt ;)

and I never said that bc you can't disprove him proves him...

Again read your link

what was the point of posting that link again?

when did we start talking about God

I don't even know what God you're talking about

you were the one who brought up not being able to DISPROVE something as if that were PROOF of something or a reason to BELIEVE something

did I misunderstand you?

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Re: Almost a quarter of Republicans think Obama 'may be the Antichrist'
« Reply #23 on: March 26, 2010, 11:59:57 PM »
when did we start talking about God

I don't even know what God you're talking about

you were the one who brought up not being able to DISPROVE something as if that were PROOF of something or a reason to BELIEVE something

did I misunderstand you?
LOL are you drunk Im going to have this thread stickied as a shining example of why not to drunk post...

you said it was a larger problem that 25% of reps believed in the anti christ...an obvious shot at religion...I asked if you wanted to waste time b/c you cant disprove religion....you posted a link that basically kills your argument...you have then began to side step, act dumb, and dance around the fact you owned yourself ;)

answer the question why did you post the link?

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Re: Almost a quarter of Republicans think Obama 'may be the Antichrist'
« Reply #24 on: March 27, 2010, 12:03:59 AM »
LOL are you drunk Im going to have this thread stickied as a shining example of why not to drunk post...

you said it was a larger problem that 25% of reps believed in the anti christ...an obvious shot at religion...I asked if you wanted to waste time b/c you cant disprove religion....you posted a link that basically kills your argument...you have then began to side step, act dumb, and dance around the fact you owned yourself ;)

answer the question why did you post the link?

I'm completely sober

I've pointed out repeatedly that not being able to disprove something is not a reason to consider believing it and is a logical fallacy

I assume you don't believe in Allah and don't really spend much time thinking about whether you should or should not based on the fact that you can't dissprove it