GSP = Total Domination

[heavyNbasic]

I have great respect for GSP and think he is on another level, but all he keeps saying is that he wants to be a legend etc....

He was afraid to take risks on Saturday. You would never see BJ or Anderson Silva do something like that. If he is such a legend he should have confidence that his stand-up is better than anyone else's in the world. He needs to show he is more than a good wrestler. What GSP is doing now is great for winning, but he is far from proving himself as a legend. A legend does more than have a wining record.

To be a legend you have to show you can win and dominate in ANY sytle. (GSP is capable) but he never takes any risks.

GSP outstruck both BJ and Thiago Alves.  Although the stand-up striking game was very limited against Hardy, I think GSP got the best that.  It was already mentioned in this thread: why would GSP play to his opponents strengths?  Makes no sense in terms of career longevity.  I'm always entertained by GSP fights regardless if they land on the mat or not.  Part of the excitement is knowing how explosive he is with strikes and submissions, and that the fight can end at anytime.

[WeightPSHR]

I love watching BJ fight, and lately he has been demolishing his competition.  However, I think GSP has been facing stiffer opponents and although he has had some fights go to decision, he is still one of the most exciting fighters and IMO one of the best pound for pound ever.  I think he can continue to win at 170 for as long as he wants.

BTW, anyone who thinks GSP has no standup should watch this video...

Great vid. GSP does have some of the best skills in MMA. I just feel that he needs to finish more fights to be considered a legend, as he has stated he wants to be at this point. He is a smart and calculated fighter. I just want to see him put more on the line, especially when he is fighting knowingly inexperienced fighters such as Hardy.

Regardless, he should stay at 170 and fight whomever they put in front of him. I like GSP, and at one time he was my favorite fighter...I am just a little bitter after the greasing incident

[coltrane]

He already had the shot and GSP completely dominated him.

I'm talking about in a rematch 

[MindSpin]

I can see where WeightPSHR is coming from.  The higher the risk, the better the reward. 

GSP is playing it safe by beating opponents through attacking their weaknesses.  This will almost certainly guarantee that he beats any 170 pounder that they put in front of him, but doesn't always make for the most exciting fights.

If he were to attempt to finish more fights in a spectacular fashion, he runs the risk of losing it all like he did to Serra, but he also stands to gain more popularity, PPVs, money, etc.

If it were me, I'd keep winning and not take the risk. 

[George Whorewell]

Beyond that, (and I'm not sure if anyone mentioned this)-- GSP needs to fight somebody that will force him to take that risk. Great fighters, or great stylystic matchups bring the best out of the guys fighting.

Taking risks just for the sake of taking risks is stupid unless you have nothing to lose. Once you become a legend like Anderson or GSP, you have plenty to lose and very little to gain by putting yourself out there unless you are fighting someone who is good enough to make you put yourself out there to get the victory.

I'm not saying Georges should smother every guy he faces for 5 rounds, but I can totally understand why he capitalizes on his strengths instead of his opponents.

[MindSpin]

Beyond that, (and I'm not sure if anyone mentioned this)-- GSP needs to fight somebody that will force him to take that risk. Great fighters, or great stylystic matchups bring the best out of the guys fighting.

Taking risks just for the sake of taking risks is stupid unless you have nothing to lose. Once you become a legend like Anderson or GSP, you have plenty to lose and very little to gain by putting yourself out there unless you are fighting someone who is good enough to make you put yourself out there to get the victory.

I'm not saying Georges should smother every guy he faces for 5 rounds, but I can totally understand why he capitalizes on his strengths instead of his opponents.

That's a great point.  Check out GSP's fight with Jason "Mayhem" Miller.  GSP had the same strategy for that fight, that he had for Hardy.  But, Jason made the fight much more exciting and forced GSP to fight more viciously. 

 

 

[WeightPSHR]

I think a fight with GSP and Nick Diaz would be interesting. Diaz has good standup, can take a beating, and has a very good ground game. Diaz has greatly improved since his UFC days. Most likely GSP would dominate, but just as interesting as any other current WW in the UFC. Too bad he has such a bad attitude.

[MindSpin]

I'd like to see that fight just for the trash talk that would ensue from Diaz.  But, this would be another case of GSP using his wrestling to dominate.  Wrestling is the Diaz brother's kryptonite. 

[George Whorewell]

A little bit off topic-- but have any of you guys watched the Nick Diaz- Gomi fight in Pride?

That fight is what makes me a huge Diaz fan even though he is a loud mouth and a thug.

Amazing heart and toughness to make his pride debut against Gomi and finish him despite being badly cut.

[WeightPSHR]

Diaz has great BJJ skills though, it would make it a little more risky for GSP to use his wrestling.

But either way...it is hard to find an opponent currently at WW that has a chance against GSP.

[WeightPSHR]

A little bit off topic-- but have any of you guys watched the Nick Diaz- Gomi fight in Pride?

That fight is what makes me a huge Diaz fan even though he is a loud mouth and a thug.

Amazing heart and toughness to make his pride debut against Gomi and finish him despite being badly cut.

That was a badass fight. I used to hate Nick Diaz, but I have grown to like him. He is a scrapper.

Now I just hate that he can't polish is PR skills just enough to get back into the UFC.

[MMA animal]

Completely wrong-- He is not that much bigger. Anderson cuts to 185 and GSP cuts to 170. Anderson actually weighed in at 181 against Thales Lietes. It's basically a 10 pound weight difference between two guys that are almost the same height.

If Anderson wins, it will be because he keeps the fight standing, not because he is bigger. Nobody would think that at all. It's not like GSP would be moving up to HW.

Also, nobody wants to see BJ and GSP again. GSP has beaten him twice-- once soundly. There is no "score" to settle. It's GSP 2, BJ 0.

Finally, for the UFC not to put this fight on would be a travesty. Nobody can touch either of these men in their respective weight classes. They are one weight class apart. Both are going to be UFC hall of famers one day. Both are still in their primes. A close fight would almost guarantee a rematch and outside of a Fedor/ Lesnar main event, there is absolutely no other fight that is more compelling.

[Nathan]

Hes one and 1/2 jointed like my son. If you do normal kamoras andarmbars on dubble or 1 1/2 jointed ppl you have to do the subs different.
I noticed it right away in the fight, because when i or others get my son an arm bar you have to fool around and try different angles. like for arm bars you have to twist the arm to the side, instead of straight back. Still a hell of a tough guy tho!

I think this is why GSP metioned he needed to refine his technique with his trainner after the fight.

[MindSpin]

His arm did get jacked up though.  Notice he didn't throw a single punch with it after the arm bar...