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SAMSON123

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Newborn with Birth Defect Denied Health Care Coverage
« on: March 28, 2010, 09:51:24 AM »
This is  a sure sign of what is to come. The ink is not even dried on the paperwork Obama signed in regard to this "health Insurance" and already health insurers are denying people claiming PRE-EXISTING conditions. How can a new born have a pre-existing condition? You guys are in so much trouble...

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Re: Newborn with Birth Defect Denied Health Care Coverage
« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2010, 02:20:41 PM »
I didn't watch the video but this was already happening before. I guess it's one of the things this bill is supposed to change.
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Re: Newborn with Birth Defect Denied Health Care Coverage
« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2010, 02:23:57 PM »
Quote from: Hugo Chavez on March 28, 2010, 02:20:41 PM
I didn't watch the video but this was already happening before. I guess it's one of the things this bill is supposed to change.

This wasn't in the bill that Obama signed. That's what so silly about this whole issue. Obama HIMSELF doesn't even know what in it, as was demonstrated during his summit with the Republicans AND that interview on Fox News.
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Re: Newborn with Birth Defect Denied Health Care Coverage
« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2010, 04:02:32 PM »
Quote from: SAMSON123 on March 28, 2010, 09:51:24 AM
This is  a sure sign of what is to come. The ink is not even dried on the paperwork Obama signed in regard to this "health Insurance" and already health insurers are denying people claiming PRE-EXISTING conditions. How can a new born have a pre-existing condition? You guys are in so much trouble...




What an adorable little guy! You just want to hug him and make any boo boos go away. (sigh)
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Re: Newborn with Birth Defect Denied Health Care Coverage
« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2010, 04:35:28 PM »
Quote from: MCWAY on March 28, 2010, 02:23:57 PM
This wasn't in the bill that Obama signed. That's what so silly about this whole issue. Obama HIMSELF doesn't even know what in it, as was demonstrated during his summit with the Republicans AND that interview on Fox News.
It is in the bill.

"The rollout starts with children. Six months from the day the bill was signed (let’s see ... that’ll be Sept. 23, by our calculation), insurers will no longer be able to exclude children with preexisting conditions from being covered by their family policy."
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2010/0324/Health-care-reform-bill-101-rules-for-preexisting-conditions
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Re: Newborn with Birth Defect Denied Health Care Coverage
« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2010, 05:41:19 PM »
omg what a tough little baby..Hope he grows up to be big and strong and stuffs it down BC and BS throat
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Re: Newborn with Birth Defect Denied Health Care Coverage
« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2010, 05:57:43 PM »
Quote from: MCWAY on March 28, 2010, 02:23:57 PM
This wasn't in the bill that Obama signed. That's what so silly about this whole issue. Obama HIMSELF doesn't even know what in it, as was demonstrated during his summit with the Republicans AND that interview on Fox News.

how the fuck did you get this so completely wrong?

honestly, that's the thing that I find most interesting

 

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Re: Newborn with Birth Defect Denied Health Care Coverage
« Reply #7 on: March 28, 2010, 06:00:12 PM »
You should send him money, Samson123.
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Re: Newborn with Birth Defect Denied Health Care Coverage
« Reply #8 on: March 28, 2010, 06:03:12 PM »
Quote from: Straw Man on March 28, 2010, 05:57:43 PM
how the fuck did you get this so completely wrong?

honestly, that's the thing that I find most interesting

 


He got it from Fox News.
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Re: Newborn with Birth Defect Denied Health Care Coverage
« Reply #9 on: March 28, 2010, 06:08:23 PM »
Quote from: Hugo Chavez on March 28, 2010, 06:03:12 PM
He got it from Fox News.

even Faux news must have reported that

Healthcare reform legislation prohibits insurers from excluding from coverage children with pre-existing health conditions. This provision takes effect immediately upon the bill becoming law.

how does a news business not report that salient fact?

I assume he just missed it and has no other sources


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Re: Newborn with Birth Defect Denied Health Care Coverage
« Reply #10 on: March 28, 2010, 06:30:45 PM »
How much should companies spend on cases like that?
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Re: Newborn with Birth Defect Denied Health Care Coverage
« Reply #11 on: March 28, 2010, 06:35:36 PM »
Quote from: drkaje on March 28, 2010, 06:30:45 PM
How much should companies spend on cases like that?

it's gotta be at least as much as a fetus

if not more

I know christians can agree with this
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Re: Newborn with Birth Defect Denied Health Care Coverage
« Reply #12 on: March 28, 2010, 06:37:57 PM »
Quote from: Straw Man on March 28, 2010, 06:35:36 PM
it's gotta be at least as much as a fetus

if not more

I know christians can agree with this

Bad cases can run a million or so to keep someone alive a year. Since all costs will be passed on to policy holders what amount do you think is fair?
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Re: Newborn with Birth Defect Denied Health Care Coverage
« Reply #13 on: March 28, 2010, 06:49:55 PM »
Quote from: drkaje on March 28, 2010, 06:37:57 PM
Bad cases can run a million or so to keep someone alive a year. Since all costs will be passed on to policy holders what amount do you think is fair?

I say whatever a fetus is worth, plus present value of future earnings, plus pain and suffering

I say we let the christians decide what a fetus is worth and then add the stuff I mentioned above

we can even leave out the stuff I mentioned above and let the christians tell us the dollar value of a fetus and how they arrived at that number

once christians tells us what a fetus is worth then surely we can agree a baby is worth a bit more

we can work out the details later

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Re: Newborn with Birth Defect Denied Health Care Coverage
« Reply #14 on: March 28, 2010, 06:54:16 PM »
Quote from: Straw Man on March 28, 2010, 06:49:55 PM
I say whatever a fetus is worth, plus present value of future earnings, plus pain an suffering

I say we let the christians decide what a fetus is worth and then add the stuff I mentioned above

we can even leave out the stuff I mentioned above and let the christians tell us the dollar value of a fetus and how they arrived at that number

once christians tells us what a fetus is worth then surely we can agree a baby is worth a bit more

we can work out the details later



A lot of people never earn crap.
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Re: Newborn with Birth Defect Denied Health Care Coverage
« Reply #15 on: March 28, 2010, 06:55:22 PM »
Look at what republicans were willing to do for terry schiavo.  I don't see how they can't feel the same about this baby, especially with their position on abortion.  I guess fuck them as soon as they're born ???
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Re: Newborn with Birth Defect Denied Health Care Coverage
« Reply #16 on: March 28, 2010, 07:00:49 PM »
Quote from: drkaje on March 28, 2010, 06:54:16 PM
A lot of people never earn crap.

I said we could leave out all the stuff I mentioned

I have no clue what a fetus might even be worth

It gotta be worth something right?
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Re: Newborn with Birth Defect Denied Health Care Coverage
« Reply #17 on: March 28, 2010, 07:02:36 PM »
Quote from: Straw Man on March 28, 2010, 07:00:49 PM
I said we could leave out all the stuff I mentioned

I have no clue what a fetus might even be worth

It gotta be worth something right?

I believe it's illegal to sell them for stem cell research.
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Re: Newborn with Birth Defect Denied Health Care Coverage
« Reply #18 on: March 28, 2010, 07:58:34 PM »
Quote from: drkaje on March 28, 2010, 07:02:36 PM
I believe it's illegal to sell them for stem cell research.

ok - skip that too

I'll agree with whatever a fetus is worth


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Re: Newborn with Birth Defect Denied Health Care Coverage
« Reply #19 on: March 28, 2010, 10:29:01 PM »
I could be wrong but I think this might be one of the few provisions of the bill that the Republicans supported.
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Re: Newborn with Birth Defect Denied Health Care Coverage
« Reply #20 on: March 29, 2010, 01:22:16 AM »
Quote from: Hugo Chavez on March 28, 2010, 06:55:22 PM
Look at what republicans were willing to do for terry schiavo.  I don't see how they can't feel the same about this baby, especially with their position on abortion.  I guess fuck them as soon as they're born ???

They're a rather interesting lot aren't they?

They are adamantly against people making life and/or death decisions for themselves and their families,
...but they're perfectly ok with callous and/or insensitive bureaucrats & pencil pushers making those decisions for others, especially while mindful of the big bonus they'll receive for saving their employers money. It truly boggles the mind. Or maybe they just don't give a poop. Being born with a congenital heart defect may make him ineligible to join the military when he turns 18, ...so they don't care to keep him alive since he probably won't be able to be shipped off to die at 18. I guess they figure keeping him alive til 18 might be a waste of food & oxygen.  :-\
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Re: Newborn with Birth Defect Denied Health Care Coverage
« Reply #21 on: March 29, 2010, 02:12:53 AM »
Quote from: MCWAY on March 28, 2010, 02:23:57 PM
This wasn't in the bill that Obama signed.

Are you sure?
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