Christian Militia Group was preparing to fight the Anti-Christ

[Soul Crusher]

The absence of religious fundamentalism did not prevent 45,900,000 innocent people from being murdered by these atheists.  It will take a heck of a whole lot for religious fundamentalism to get even close to catching up to these atheists.  That is the point, and it stands no matter what you and Deicide say.

It is very well known that one of the main tenents and goals of communism is to get rid of organized religion so that the people look for salvation in the state and govt over God.

 

[Straw Man]

It is very well known that one of the main tenents and goals of communism is to get rid of organized religion so that the people look for salvation in the state and govt over God.  

exactly - the goal was to eliminate any challenger to the authority of the state

the type of group didn't matter - all that mattered was that that they were a challend to the authority of the state

[dario73]

No, atheism by its very definition is simply an absence of belief in a supernatural deity.

He was not saying they believed in god though perhaps they believed in themselves as gods. There is no goal of atheism.

 
Atheists see themselves as gods. Humanism. Again, no difference between you idiots and those tyrants. Same basic arrogant and misguided belief in the very weak nature of man.

[Deicide]

Really? Where is the proof that matter came out of nothing? Has it been shown or replicated in any lab?

Did you find that magical missing link? I am just asking because no other scientist in the world has. Maybe you know something the rest of the universe doesn't.

So you are a young earth creationist?

[Deicide]

Really? So why do atheists feel it's their right to change everything in society to reflect their views. Iowa trying to change Easter to Spring Holiday. It's no longer Christmas, it's Season Holidays.

I don't mind seperation of church and state, but atheists have been very active in removing any indication or semblance of religious beliefs. If there are no goals of atheism, then why not let others believe what they want to believe?

I have no idea. I do not comingle with such groups and personally I find them distasteful because their very existence dignifies the oppositional point of view, which I believe is not even worth considering.

[kcballer]

Exactly. Sure, they are secular but they have 'saviour figures' just like Christianity and all you need to do is belief in them and all will be well...sounds familiar.

I believe it's called a cult of personality. 

[Soul Crusher]

I believe it's called a cult of personality. 

[kcballer]

Not even remotely close 333.  Bush had wackos worshiping him too.  The true cult of personality for a dictator is incomparable to Obama.  Why do you keep showing stupidity on these issues?  It's like you have no brain at times.   

[kcballer]

BTW i don't see what's wrong with kids being inspired to make something of themselves like in the second video, it's strange their way of showing it but what exactly is wrong with wanting to be lawyers, mechanics, etc?  Because they were inspired by Obama they should be ashamed? 

[Dos Equis]

No it doesn't.  Your Christianity teaches that.  I've been in churches where they have flat out said this stuff is less about truth and fact and more about the meaning of the story being told.  When you have idiots who believe it is literal and not a tool written by man as an interpretation of the word of God you have problems in this country.  People are free to believe what they wish, when those beliefs interfere with others lives like hatred of homosexuals or other religions then it's an issue that needs to be addressed for the greater good of ALL people, not just those with 'Christian' beliefs.    

Yes it does.  I'm not sure what churches you're talking about, but don't confuse how some churches interpret the Bible with whether Christianity teaches that the Bible is God's literal word.  Christians have been teaching that the Bible is God's literal word since this country's inception.  

Christianity doesn't teach hatred of homosexuals.  It teaches to hate the sin and love the sinner.  Some Christians lose sight of this teaching, but that represents a problem with some people, not with Christianity.  

People who happen to be Christian have every right to use the democratic process.  If you or anyone disagrees with them, then go vote.  

[Soul Crusher]

[drkaje]

Yes it does.  I'm not sure what churches you're talking about, but don't confuse how some churches interpret the Bible with whether Christianity teaches that the Bible is God's literal word.  Christians have been teaching that the Bible is God's literal word since this country's inception.  

Christianity doesn't teach hatred of homosexuals.  It teaches to hate the sin and love the sinner.  Some Christians lose sight of this teaching, but that represents a problem with some people, not with Christianity.  

People who happen to be Christian have every right to use the democratic process.  If you are anyone disagrees with them, then go vote.  

It's nice to read you've finally given up the old "there's a big difference between us and them" argument.

[Dos Equis]

It's nice to read you've finally given up the old "there's a big difference between us and them" argument.

Finally?  It was one line in one thread from yesterday. 

And I haven't given it up.  It's true. 

[drkaje]

Finally?  It was one line in one thread from yesterday. 

And I haven't given it up.  It's true. 

Islamic fundamentalists would certainly claim to be better than ours but there's really no difference beyond what's already been mentioned.

[kcballer]

Yes it does.  I'm not sure what churches you're talking about, but don't confuse how some churches interpret the Bible with whether Christianity teaches that the Bible is God's literal word.  Christians have been teaching that the Bible is God's literal word since this country's inception.  

Christianity doesn't teach hatred of homosexuals.  It teaches to hate the sin and love the sinner.  Some Christians lose sight of this teaching, but that represents a problem with some people, not with Christianity.  

People who happen to be Christian have every right to use the democratic process.  If you or anyone disagrees with them, then go vote.  

So because your church and the churches you know of teach it one way that is the only way?  More close mindedness.

Also if you love the sinner why are you for the death penalty?  Why would you want someone you love to die regardless of their sins?

[Dos Equis]

Islamic fundamentalists would certainly claim to be better than ours but there's really no difference beyond what's already been mentioned.

I didn't say better.  I said different.     But if you're talking about system of government, religious freedom, etc., we're definitely "better." 

[Dos Equis]

So because your church and the churches you know of teach it one way that is the only way?  More close mindedness.

Also if you love the sinner why are you for the death penalty?  Why would you want someone you love to die regardless of their sins?

I'm not talking about my church.  I'm talking about Christianity in general in the U.S. 

What in the world does the death penalty have to do with this subject?  In any event, you can love someone and still hold them accountable.  Just like forgiveness doesn't mean there is no accountability.    Actions have consequences. 

[drkaje]

I didn't say better.  I said different.     But if you're talking about system of government, religious freedom, etc., we're definitely "better." 

TBH, I was trying to be nice but ours are probably worse.

Generalizing Christianity is intellectually lazy and dangerous, LOL! Whenever someone says "I'm a Christian" I always ask "What exactly do you mean by that?". I've met enough people who acted shady or believed extreme stuff to know damn well Christian is one of those individual definitions. Also, people may not be practicing Christians, could say they're born again, back-slid, or may pick and choose which commandments are convenient.

[loco]

exactly - the goal was to eliminate any challenger to the authority of the state

the type of group didn't matter - all that mattered was that that they were a challend to the authority of the state

Hence the claim that "Religious fundamentalism is modern society's largest threat" is at best ignorant or naive, and at worst a dangerous lie.

[Dos Equis]

TBH, I was trying to be nice but ours are probably worse.

Generalizing Christianity is intellectually lazy and dangerous, LOL! Whenever someone says "I'm a Christian" I always ask "What exactly do you mean by that?". I've met enough people who acted shady or believed extreme stuff to know damn well Christian is one of those individual definitions. Also, people may not be practicing Christians, could say they're born again, back-slid, or may pick and choose which commandments are convenient.

I agree.  I don't really care what someone says about their faith.  The way a person lives his or life is the truest indicator of what's in the heart. 

[Deicide]

Yes it does.  I'm not sure what churches you're talking about, but don't confuse how some churches interpret the Bible with whether Christianity teaches that the Bible is God's literal word.  Christians have been teaching that the Bible is God's literal word since this country's inception.  

Christianity doesn't teach hatred of homosexuals.  It teaches to hate the sin and love the sinner.  Some Christians lose sight of this teaching, but that represents a problem with some people, not with Christianity.  

People who happen to be Christian have every right to use the democratic process.  If you are anyone disagrees with them, then go vote.  

This is gibberish...

[Dos Equis]

This is gibberish...

It's truth.  Separate the act from the person. 

[24KT]

Maybe in the Middle East.  Certainly not in this country. 

Wrong. it's a problem everywhere, but for the sake of argument, even assuming your premise,  it's still inaccurate.

Even if you choose to turn a blind eye to the religious fundamentalism on this continent, you cannot argue that relgious fundamentalism from the middle east has and is having a profound impact on your country, it's laws, and your way of life.

[Soul Crusher]

Wrong. it's a problem everywhere, but for the sake of argument, even assuming your premise,  it's still inaccurate.

Even if you choose to turn a blind eye to the religious fundamentalism on this continent, you cannot argue that relgious fundamentalism from the middle east has and is having a profound impact on your country, it's laws, and your way of life.

Can you switch back to the Samson poster?  That one is far better. 

[24KT]

Christians are no more a threat in this country than paranoid anti-religious extremists.  The overwhelming majority of people in this country are Christian.  We have over 200 million.  The fact a handful of nuts committed a crime says nothing about the majority of the country.  But like I said earlier, it does provide material for those desperate to bash religious folks. 

Kind of like muslims huh?