How to handle poor people who keep breeding

[DK II]

BELIEVE IT OR NOT SOCIETY NEEDS THESE POOR DUMB PEOPLE TO DO THE SHITTY WORK OR TO BUY STUFF THAT MAKES THE ECONOMY WORKS TOO.
who would watch wrestling, superbowl, who would shop or work at walmart etc?

If you re smart, you re supposed to know how to avoid poor and dumb people, so it shouldnt be that much of a problem.
Smart , rich people tend to stay together, as do dumb poor people.

Good post, actually this is what Nietzsche's Zarathustra is all about.

Let the dumb idiots be the slaves for the rich ones. It's a good thing, the problem is that the smart people got soft and gave dumb people welfare.
Now smart people are the idiots working for the life of the dumb people.

This has to stop, now. If you are too lazy or dumb to do some sort of stupid factory work, or clean up the streets or whatever, you should be left to die.

[KevinP85]

Do not forget poor people are poor cause they are DUMB .
They re ignorant, hence they suffer and produce suffering.
Better conditionnings (parents) education, can transform anyone into someone smarter and happier.
But there 's also genetics.
Kids dont just look like their parents or grandparents, they also THINK like em. Their psychism is made of the fusion of the psychisms of both their tutors of development (wether they are grandparents, parents, friends etc).
If parents and grandparents and friends are stupid, there are big chances the kids will become as stupid as em.

Going to school, education, books,  can allow kids to take some distance from their bad advisers, from the negative influences from their family or "friends".

Knowledge is mostly objective, you can learn in a book that your parents, friends are or were assholes and that you should cut your ties with em.
Education also teach you were the good things are.  

But most of the time kids are destroyed, ruined, tainted by their own parents who could do a lot much better with their kids, but just because they are too cowardly, unable to overcome their own insecurities, shortcomings, transmit em to their own progeniture.

Spending time with dumb people makes you dumber.
Spending time with smarter people makes you smarter.

This is how you getdumb, hence poor people spawning dumb, hence poor people.

IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE CASE.

BELIEVE IT OR NOT SOCIETY NEEDS THESE POOR DUMB PEOPLE TO DO THE SHITTY WORK OR TO BUY STUFF THAT MAKES THE ECONOMY WORKS TOO.
who would watch wrestling, superbowl, who would shop or work at walmart etc?

In a pyramidal society, you need a large amount of poor dumb people at the base to support the upper, smaller part of the pyramid.
A very important function of poor, dumb people...is they make smarter people feel better about themselves. Basically if there were no stupid people , there couldnt be smart people.

If you re smart, you re supposed to know how to avoid poor and dumb people, so it shouldnt be that much of a problem.
Smart , rich people tend to stay together, as do dumb poor people.



Also dont forget you re always stupider than someone else, so before wishing to send some people into death camps, ask yourself if there s not someone somewhere who thinks you re dumber than him and that you too should go into a death camp.

And the culprits are white trash and minorities particularly hispanics coming from fucking mexico and shitholes like El Salvador. Shit, they are even taking over my gym

[DK II]

And the culprits are white trash and minorities particularly hispanics coming from fucking mexico and shitholes like El Salvador. Shit, they are even taking over my gym

It's not limited to race. Dumb, lazy people are everywhere.

[Natural Man]

It's not limited to race. Dumb, lazy people are everywhere.

exactly, as are smarter people,   who can be white black asian indian... It's a question of conditionnings, not skin color. Even if some races produce more dumb people than others because they have poor educationnal traditions.

A Human Being is only the sum of the conditionnings he was submitted to.

[MAXX]

How should the US handle this situation.  Poor's no job or want to get a job keep breeding these welfare babies, burdening the system, making people who work pay for their kids care.  

Should they implement a law that if you cannot feed your kid with your own money's then it will be taken away from you and raised for government use building roads etc (at the age of 18 be free with high school education) and also have the law breaker be imprisoned for 5 years and sterilized?

I think this would greatly cut down on the low life's that keep popping out these things.

jt

great thinking there chief


 

[KevinP85]

exactly, as are smarter people,   who can be white black asian indian... It's a question of conditionnings, not skin color. Even if some races produce more dumb people than others because they have poor educationnal traditions.

A Human Being is only the sum of the conditionnings he was submitted to.

Conditioning is one, but culture has a lot to do with it as well IMO. There is a reason why countries are third world and they come to the US to spread nonsense and filth!

[just_a_pilgrim]

Cut welfare payments. I went to Hong Kong once for work, 16% tax rate, no welfare payments, fuck all crime.

If you can't pay for your kid they are taken off you. If you can't work, you work for the government and they feed and house you.

This won't happen now. But the governments are slowly going there, law by law, and i can't blame them. One day they are going to have to do something other than buying votes with welfare payments (in Australia you have to vote - if you are registered which the majority are).

[Natural Man]

Conditioning is one, but culture has a lot to do with it as well IMO. There is a reason why countries are third world and they come to the US to spread nonsense and filth!

of course. Culture is part of conditionnings. We as westerners promote a culture where parenthood is desacralized as was christiannity, and where superficiality and materialism are the new religion of substitution. Our culture isnt going any better than those of the third world somehow. Adjustments need to be made obviously.

[Matt C]

Did you guys in the USA think you could replicate the socialist policies which have destroyed Canada and Europe and remain a successful and powerful nation?

LOL!!!!!!!

Enjoy communism.  We've had it here in Canada for some time now.

[KevinP85]

Did you guys in the USA think you could replicate the socialist policies which have destroyed Canada and Europe and remain a successful and powerful nation?

LOL!!!!!!!

Enjoy communism.  We've had it here in Canada for some time now.

I didn't vote for Obama and no, I don't think socialism/communism ever worked! The US, unfortunately, is heading that way

[Parker]

I didn't vote for Obama and no, I don't think socialism/communism ever worked! The US, unfortunately, is heading that way

In true Communism, your ass won't have or wouldn't have a M3 if it gets that way, better put that thing in storage---underground. And watch V For Vendetta over and over again.

[drkaje]

All the people complaining about the poor should STFU. Without them many wouldn't have a reason in the world to feel good about themselves.

[KevinP85]

In true Communism, your ass won't have or wouldn't have a M3 if it gets that way, better put that thing in storage---underground. And watch V For Vendetta over and over again.

Hahaha, you are correct Parker

I don't want to get too off topic, but where do you currently stand right now on what's happening??

[Parker]

Hahaha, you are correct Parker

I don't want to get too off topic, but where do you currently stand right now on what's happening??

Well in terms of the US and poor people, I agree with drkaje, but to expand on that because you are in a border state, the US has created it's own problem with the illegals, but for something to be done all it takes is for a rich or powerful person to have something done to them or their families and then it will be brought to the forefront.

America has been falling for a long time---it's the baby boomer's fault. They on one hand brought about huge social upheaval in the 60s, but with that came good and the bad. They didn't like to discipline their kids, gave them everything, in term our generation has turned out to be a bunch of whining wusses. The femininization of the American male and the masculination of the American female has occurred.

Look at it this way, the quality of our products has gone down (our cars have gotten better), the quality of men and women have gone down (means anybody can get laid), but as a result, more losers get to pass their seed, more women are whores, and have baggage.
We have shifted to a service oriented culture---to serve can mean to to be subservant, we offer ourselves. To produce something means we have the power to dictate...who produces our material goods? Not us. Our corporations have sold us out. It has been said by futurists that corporationsxwill grow to be entities that know no national borders, looks like it.

[jtsunami]

Good post, actually this is what Nietzsche's Zarathustra is all about.

Let the dumb idiots be the slaves for the rich ones. It's a good thing, the problem is that the smart people got soft and gave dumb people welfare.
Now smart people are the idiots working for the life of the dumb people.

This has to stop, now. If you are too lazy or dumb to do some sort of stupid factory work, or clean up the streets or whatever, you should be left to die.

x2!

[SAMSON123]

Hahahaahah...you guys are certainly funnnnnny. I just can't imagine operating on such a low mentality. You see in america the policies being enacted are to make sure no american can be anything higher than a impoverished bum and despite all of the evidence pointing to that fact you are still tearing at those LEAST able to defend themselves.

As the taxes, seizures, foreclosures, job losses, escalating prices, infrastructure failures, service cuts, food shortages, natural disasters continue and become worst what will you all do then? How quickly any and all of you can be turned into beggars is not funny. With millions of you already living in tent cities, shelters, homeless, with relatives/kids/parents, with whole cities falling into despair before your eyes, can you really look to someone else's greater despair and condemn them or wish them greater evil? You should look to them and say "How long will it be before I am in the same condition"?..... More than likely VERY FAST/SOON..

While you are looking to exterminate people remember americans are on the top of the elites list for EXTERMINATION. While you feel the strange desire to BURN AND BURY EVERYONE WHO YOU DEEM WORTHLESS...be aware that the same is being planned for you!... You guys would do well to have more charity one toward the other, because should a MAD MAN SYSTEM OF KILLING, come into being, where will the killing stop. The killing of the poor will be the beginning, but where would it stop? First the poor, then the jobless, then the sick, then the elderly, then the Catholics, the jew, the blind, those with IQs under a certain scale, then those without a certain status...ect ect ect...there will be no end to the reasons for ending one(s)/a group/a races life. Who will hold the final decision of who or whom are worthy to live? And will this person or entity then turn on everyone but himself to destroy?

These scenarios have played out in SciFi/fiction and fantasy stories/books and movies...they are all based on someones feeling of superiority by some sad someone who sees himself above all others for some self imposed reasons. Sadly the ones who feel superior are always the ones most insecure/inferior and debased. Would you really want a world full of those types running around making decisions?...

OOOOOPS THEY ALREADY ARE!!!!

[Hereford]

Poor people piss me off.

[Hugo Chavez]

Hahahaahah...you guys are certainly funnnnnny. I just can't imagine operating on such a low mentality. You see in america the policies being enacted to make sure no american can be anything higher than a impoverished bum and despite all of the evidence pointing to that fact you are still tearing at those LEAST able to defend themselves.

As the taxes, seizures, foreclosures, job losses, escalating prices, infrastructure failures, service cuts, food shortages natural disasters continue and become worst what will you all do then? How quickly and and all of you can be turned into beggars is not funny. With millions of you living already in tent cities, shelters, homeless, with relatives/kids/parents, with whole cities falling into despair before your eyes, can you really look to someone else greater despair and condemn them? You should look to them and say "How long will it be before you are in the same condition"? More than likely VERY FAST/SOON..

While you are looking to exterminate people remember americans are on top of the elites list for EXTERMINATION. While you feel the strange desire to BURN AND BURY EVERYONE...be aware that the same is being planned for you!... You guys would do well to have more charity one toward the other, because should a MAD MAN SYSTEM as you think, come into being, where will the condemnation stop. The killing of the poor will be the beginning, but where would it stop? First the poor, then the jobless, then the sick, then the elderly, then the Catholics, the jew, the blind, those with IQs under a certain scale, then those without a certain status...ect ect ect...there will be no end to the reasons for ending one(s)/a group/a races life. Who will hold the final decision of who or whom are worthy to live? And will this person or entity then turn on everyone but himself to destroy?

These scenarios have played out in SciFi/fiction and fantasy stories/books and movies...they are all based on feeling of superiority by some sad someone who sees himself above allotehrs. Sadly the ones who feel superior are always the ones most insecure/inferior and debased. Would you really want a world full of those types running around making decisions?...

OOOOOPS THEY ALREADY ARE!!!!

good post

[James28]

Hahahaahah...you guys are certainly funnnnnny. I just can't imagine operating on such a low mentality. You see in america the policies being enacted are to make sure no american can be anything higher than a impoverished bum and despite all of the evidence pointing to that fact you are still tearing at those LEAST able to defend themselves.

As the taxes, seizures, foreclosures, job losses, escalating prices, infrastructure failures, service cuts, food shortages, natural disasters continue and become worst what will you all do then? How quickly any and all of you can be turned into beggars is not funny. With millions of you already living in tent cities, shelters, homeless, with relatives/kids/parents, with whole cities falling into despair before your eyes, can you really look to someone else's greater despair and condemn them or wish them greater evil? You should look to them and say "How long will it be before I am in the same condition"?..... More than likely VERY FAST/SOON..

While you are looking to exterminate people remember americans are on the top of the elites list for EXTERMINATION. While you feel the strange desire to BURN AND BURY EVERYONE WHO YOU DEEM WORTHLESS...be aware that the same is being planned for you!... You guys would do well to have more charity one toward the other, because should a MAD MAN SYSTEM OF KILLING, come into being, where will the killing stop. The killing of the poor will be the beginning, but where would it stop? First the poor, then the jobless, then the sick, then the elderly, then the Catholics, the jew, the blind, those with IQs under a certain scale, then those without a certain status...ect ect ect...there will be no end to the reasons for ending one(s)/a group/a races life. Who will hold the final decision of who or whom are worthy to live? And will this person or entity then turn on everyone but himself to destroy?

These scenarios have played out in SciFi/fiction and fantasy stories/books and movies...they are all based on someones feeling of superiority by some sad someone who sees himself above all others for some self imposed reasons. Sadly the ones who feel superior are always the ones most insecure/inferior and debased. Would you really want a world full of those types running around making decisions?...

OOOOOPS THEY ALREADY ARE!!!!

A good post and I agree with you. I made a post in this thread that wasn't quite related to the thread title and went on a rant against people happy with their lot and extending a hand to the tax payer and keep extending that hand, every month. I would offer all the help in the world to people that have fallen on awkward times and need a little push to get them off and running again. Sadly with the way the benefits system is Britain is structured, it has become a lifestyle choice and a financially viable one at that. We cannot keep funding the unproductive (and I include 80% of civil employees in that) and keep expecting the working man to sit in traffic at 5am on his way to another 12 hour day to finance the lifestyle choices of the lazy.

[Montague]

How to handle the poor who over-breed?
Simple – WELFARE REFORM!

Uncle Sam needs to stop rewarding “screwing & reproducing” with monthly U.S Treasury checks.
It’s called SSI, & every month, qualifying mothers get one for each little bastard they pop out from between their impoverished legs.

For many, it’s a career.
I’ve heard of couples who refuse to marry & maintain separate dwellings so that they can qualify to receive for free the money they withhold from my paycheck each month.

Seems to me that if you can't afford a family of three, it makes no sense to build to a family of eight!
But, that's the government's way of encouraging something that certain people have no business doing.

[jtsunami]

How to handle the poor who over-breed?
Simple – WELFARE REFORM!

Uncle Sam needs to stop rewarding “screwing & reproducing” with monthly U.S Treasury checks.
It’s called SSI, & every month, qualifying mothers get one for each little bastard they pop out from between their impoverished legs.

For many, it’s a career.
I’ve heard of couples who refuse to marry & maintain separate dwellings so that they can qualify to receive for free the money they withhold from my paycheck each month.

Seems to me that if you can't afford a family of three, it makes no sense to build to a family of eight!
But, that's the government's way of encouraging something that certain people have no business doing.

x2, I would love to see it, hopefully our savior Obama can get it done.

[SAMSON123]

How to handle the poor who over-breed?
Simple – WELFARE REFORM!

Uncle Sam needs to stop rewarding “screwing & reproducing” with monthly U.S Treasury checks.
It’s called SSI, & every month, qualifying mothers get one for each little bastard they pop out from between their impoverished legs.

For many, it’s a career.
I’ve heard of couples who refuse to marry & maintain separate dwellings so that they can qualify to receive for free the money they withhold from my paycheck each month.

Seems to me that if you can't afford a family of three, it makes no sense to build to a family of eight!
But, that's the government's way of encouraging something that certain people have no business doing.

Is this also the reason the US government bailed out the bankers, wall street, the insurance industry and everyone EXCEPT the citizen?...they actually want the businesses to continue doing corrupt business?. You have gone through a Savings and Loan scandal, a DOT COM scandal, a Corporate Scandal, a Enron scandal and now you are in the midst of Wall Street/Bankers/Insurance Bailout. Seems not only is your government DUMB AS HELL, but the people are not far behind. As I said before you focus on the ones least able to defend themselves and yet play blind to the ones walking away with the house....

[Skip8282]

Is this also the reason the US government bailed out the bankers, wall street, the insurance industry and everyone EXCEPT the citizen?...they actually want the businesses to continue doing corrupt business?. You have gone through a Savings and Loan scandal, a DOT COM scandal, a Corporate Scandal, a Enron scandal and now you are in the midst of Wall Street/Bankers/Insurance Bailout. Seems not only is your government DUMB AS HELL, but the people are not far behind. As I said before you focus on the ones least able to defend themselves and yet play blind to the ones walking away with the house....

You make a good point.  Every time corporate America gets into the shits, they start crying like bitches to have Uncle Sam bail them out.  Suddenly, socialist bailouts are a good thing...

[Montague]

x2, I would love to see it, hopefully our savior Obama can get it done.

I speaketh from an ivory tower.
No politician will ever touch welfare reform - they’re afraid of pissing off and losing too many voters.
That goes for both Dems & Repubs.

Lots of people fall on hard times.
Lots of people legitimately need & deserve help.
I say let’s help them out until they can get back on their feet, but don’t encourage them to make a career of it while simultaneously digging themselves into a deeper hole with some shit-brained rewards system that pays them more for fukking up.

And at least require them to perform some type of modest job or task while collecting money from people who do work.
Everybody can do something – unless you have some physical or mental disability that TRULY prevents you from functioning beyond your dwelling.

[DK II]

You make a good point.  Every time corporate America gets into the shits, they start crying like bitches to have Uncle Sam bail them out.  Suddenly, socialist bailouts are a good thing...

yeah, fuck the bailouts.