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"Sallie Mae Blames 2500 Layoffs on Obama's Student Loan Overhaul"

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/03/30/sallie-mae-blames-layoffs-obamas-student-loan-overhaul/ ^ | 03302010 | Kelly Chernenkoff

Posted on Tuesday, March 30, 2010 11:37:51 PM by TheDailyChange

Powerhouse student loan provider Sallie Mae says layoffs are imminent as a result of President Obama's new student loan overhaul.

Good job Obama administration!


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Re: "Sallie Mae Blames 2500 Layoffs on Obama's Student Loan Overhaul"
« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2010, 09:01:46 PM »
  They harrassed my father by claiming that he had more monthly payments to make even though he didn't. Hard to sympathize with them and the U.S. Department of Education.

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Re: "Sallie Mae Blames 2500 Layoffs on Obama's Student Loan Overhaul"
« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2010, 09:11:06 PM »
Sallie Mae spent $3mil in lobbyists to fight this bill.

Under the revamped student loan system, the federal government, instead of banks, will be the primary lender to students. The new law also bolsters Pell grants, aids historically black colleges and universities and makes it easier for students to repay their loans by setting caps on annual payments based on income.

I'm shocked that people are feeling sorry for companies whose sole role is to take the $ from the govt and re-sell it to broke college kids.  They've made the student loan system more efficient and cheaper for us to use - and you're bitching?

Yes, 2500 legal loansharks are out of work. 

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Re: "Sallie Mae Blames 2500 Layoffs on Obama's Student Loan Overhaul"
« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2010, 09:16:57 PM »
Has anyone here used the wildly more convienient and cheaper Federal Direct Loan Program?  Or are you just in awe of the private sector's ability to borrow our $ from the govt for us, then re-sell us OUR OWN cash?

If you want America to be more competitve worldwide, we need this whole next generation to be better educated than the last one.  This bill allows more Americans to go to college, and makes repayment more flexible and cheaper.  And anyone who has gotten student loans can tell you it is a VERY messy process - please don't say the private sector does it more efficiently in this case.

I think the only reason anyone is complaining, is because Obama's name is on this bill.  That's it.  He could save 5 old ladies from a burning building, and FOX would complain that he just put 5 funeral home directors out of work...


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Re: "Sallie Mae Blames 2500 Layoffs on Obama's Student Loan Overhaul"
« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2010, 05:21:24 AM »
How you can have the balls to call yourself a libertarian or conservative is beyond me if you favor this.  You a lib who likes your guns and that it. 

If you cant see from an economics basis how stupid this is, than thats your problem.  But then again, you supported the Stim Bill and could not see the error of your thinking with that mess either. 

Serious 240 - I really dont know where your head is at on these issues if you support a govt takeover of this. 

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How about this:

Schiff Responds to Student Loan Bill
schiffforsenate.com ^ | Mar 30, 2010

Posted on Tuesday, March 30, 2010 10:41:36 PM by Conservative Coulter Fan

Connecticut senatorial candidate and renowned economist Peter Schiff today commented on the passing of the health care bill which makes the federal government the primary point of student loans:

“Just like mortgages and health care, whenever the federal government subsidizes something, the costs go up. Student loans are no different.

“ Obama's 'solution' to this government created problem will only make it worse. Loaning directly to students while reducing the amount a student is required to repay will actually encourage colleges and universities to increase tuitions even faster, as students will be more willing to assume larger debts which they are not legally required to repay.

“ Not only will this bill cause tuitions to rise faster, but contrary to Obama's claim, it will substantially increase the cost to taxpayers who will be forced to pick up a much larger share of inflated tuitions and absorb bigger losses on defaulted loans.

“We need to send leaders to Washington who understand basic economics and who will offer solutions that work, instead of adding to our economic problems.”

In 2006, businessman Peter Schiff warned of a coming financial crisis. Now, Peter sees the same problems repeating themselves in Washington. As Connecticut’s Senator, he will stop Washington’s spending binges that destroy jobs and lead to higher taxes. Born in New Haven, Peter lives in Fairfield County, where he raises his seven-year-old-son.










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Alexander: Obama's 'Soviet-Style' Takeover of Student Loans   [Robert Costa]


Sen. Lamar Alexander (R., Tenn.), the U.S. secretary of education from 1991 to 1993, tells National Review Online that President Obama’s revamping of the federal student-loan program is “truly brazen” and the “most underreported big-Washington takeover in history.”

“As Americans find out what it really does, they’ll be really unhappy,” Alexander predicts. “The first really unhappy people will be the 19 million students who, after July 1, will have no choice but to go to federal call centers to get their student loans. They’ll become even unhappier when they find out that the government is charging 2.8 percent to borrow the money and 6.8 percent to lend it to the students, and spending the difference on the new health-care bill and other programs. In other words, the government will be overcharging 19 million students.” The overcharge is “significant,” Alexander adds, because “on a $25,000 student loan, which is an average loan, the amount the government will overcharge will average between $1,700 and $1,800.”

“Up to now, 15 out of 19 million student loans were private loans, backed by the government,” Alexander says. “Now we’re going to borrow half-a-trillion from China to pay for billions in new loans. Not only will this add to the debt, but in the middle of a recession, this will throw 31,000 Americans working at community banks and non-profit lenders out of work.”

Alexander, a former University of Tennessee president, says the effects of Obama’s policy could be felt for decades. “When I was education secretary, one of my major objections to turning it all over to the government was that I didn’t think the government could manage it,” he says. “This is going to be too big and too congested, and makes getting your student loan about as attractive as lining up to get your driver’s license in some states.”

“It changes the kind of country we live in more than it changes American education,” Alexander concludes. “The American system of higher education has become the best in the world because of choice and competition. Unlike K-12, we give money to students and let them choose among schools, having the choice of private lenders or government lenders. That’s been the case for 20 years. Having no choice, and the government running it all, looks more like a Soviet-style, European, and even Asian higher-education model where the government manages everything. In most of those countries, they’ve been falling over themselves to reject their state-controlled authoritarian universities, which are much worse than ours, and move toward the American model which emphasizes choice, competition, and peer-reviewed research. In that sense, we’re now stepping back from our choice-competition culture, which has given us not just some of the best universities in the world, but almost all of them.”

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Re: "Sallie Mae Blames 2500 Layoffs on Obama's Student Loan Overhaul"
« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2010, 05:59:12 AM »
you forgot to add, 'hey 240, youre a fukkin moron' to that post.

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Re: "Sallie Mae Blames 2500 Layoffs on Obama's Student Loan Overhaul"
« Reply #6 on: March 31, 2010, 06:09:12 AM »
you forgot to add, 'hey 240, youre a fukkin moron' to that post.

I was trying to be as respectful as I can but GMAFB lately.  What more evidence do you need to see that whatever the govt touches it screws up?  Apparently not enough! 

Bro - seriously, you really need to wake the hell up as to what this is all about.  The govt is PRINTING the money out of nothing, and then getting the students to pay an inflated interest rate so that the govt now has a fresh stream of income to fund DeathCare and other garbage, all while debasing the currency and making debt slaves of the students. 

Here, you like Thune, watch this. 

 


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Re: "Sallie Mae Blames 2500 Layoffs on Obama's Student Loan Overhaul"
« Reply #7 on: March 31, 2010, 06:12:42 AM »
Hey 240 you f'n moron[satisfied?]how about those private sector jobs numbers?Expected to gain 40,000 lost 22,000.Things are definately getting better out there.The stimulus is working as planned.

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Re: "Sallie Mae Blames 2500 Layoffs on Obama's Student Loan Overhaul"
« Reply #8 on: March 31, 2010, 06:33:29 AM »
Either Obama is working with the banks or against them.  Which is it?  Because the loan overhaul is a direct knock against banks and defeats all the lobbying and legislation the banks did to keep their pockets lined with student loans.

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Re: "Sallie Mae Blames 2500 Layoffs on Obama's Student Loan Overhaul"
« Reply #9 on: March 31, 2010, 06:40:37 AM »
Either Obama is working with the banks or against them.  Which is it?  Because the loan overhaul is a direct knock against banks and defeats all the lobbying and legislation the banks did to keep their pockets lined with student loans.

No, this scheme is directly out of the book below.  Here is what is occuring, Obama is basically diverting the money from the banks, who loan money to businesses & consumers, to the govt to finance its bs.  Its now a income stream for the govt. 

Think of it this way Lurker:  Student goes for a loan for 100k to the govt.  Where is the money coming from?  Answer - NOTHING!  They simply print it up and give it to the school to pay the tution.  Currently the govt is borrowing the money from itself at about 2%.  However, it is loaning the money back at around 6%.  The other 4% is now pure gravy to the govt to finance the health care bs and other indebted govt programs. 

So what is this now going to do? 

1.  Steal from the students. 
2.  Debase the currency.
3.  Inflate tuitions even more.
4.  Put the taxoayer on the hook for billions and billions and billions more as a result of defaulted loans. 
5.  Screw middle class people who now will have to go further into hock for the govt to get these loans.
6.  Provide a new revenue stream from the govt from printed money. 


This is nothing more than a MASSIVE middle class tax hike, its just that you guys are too uneducated and uninformed to realize it.  you guys take whatever bs the idiot in the WH tells you and take it as gospel without understanding the mechanisms for how money works.   
 


 

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Re: "Sallie Mae Blames 2500 Layoffs on Obama's Student Loan Overhaul"
« Reply #10 on: March 31, 2010, 06:45:14 AM »
great points you are making on the sudent loan bill. 

Obviously I'm not defending the printing of money, as BILLY seems to have rerouted the discussion toward.

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Re: "Sallie Mae Blames 2500 Layoffs on Obama's Student Loan Overhaul"
« Reply #11 on: March 31, 2010, 06:51:16 AM »
great points you are making on the sudent loan bill. 

Obviously I'm not defending the printing of money, as BILLY seems to have rerouted the discussion toward.

240 - I cant stress this book enough to learn how money really works. 

Once you read this, you will be able to see through 95% of the bs from the govt. 

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Re: "Sallie Mae Blames 2500 Layoffs on Obama's Student Loan Overhaul"
« Reply #12 on: March 31, 2010, 06:58:09 AM »
Government Overhaul of Student Loans Likely to Eliminate Jobs and Increase Tuition Costs
By Julie Borowski on Mar 30, 2010

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Today, Obama signed the Health Care and Education Reconciliation Act of 2010 which grants government substantially more control over higher education. This legislation overhauls student loans by making the federal government the primary distributor of student grants and loans. In addition, it expands Pell Grants by more than $40 billion and provides billions of taxpayer dollars to community colleges and historically black colleges and universities.

Senator Mitch McConnell (R-KY) claimed that the government running the student loan business is a bad idea:

"It's a very bad idea. We now have the government running banks, insurance companies, car companies" and Democrats want the government to now "take over the student loan business."

The student loan overhaul is expected to eliminate tens of thousands of jobs. Rep. Howard P. “Buck” McKeon (R-Calif.) claims that:

The proposal would eliminate 30,000 loan industry jobs.

Six Democratic Senators, Thomas R. Carper (DE), Blanche Lincoln (AR), Ben Nelson (NE), Bill Nelson (FL), Mark Warner (VA) and Jim Webb (VA), even wrote a letter to Harry Reid that expressed their concern that the student loan overhaul would increase unemployment.

We write to make you aware of our concern with provisions of contemplated student lending reform that could put jobs at risk.

The rapidly rising cost of college is a major cause for concern. College inflation is significantly higher than general inflation, the cost of college rises 6 to 7.5% percent annually. In the 2008-2009 academic year, two-thirds of students were forced to borrow money to attend college. The average student that graduated from college last year borrowed an outrageous $23,186. Therefore, the real focus should be on decreasing the amount that students have to borrow by lowering college costs for all students. Unfortunately, government intervention in higher education often raises cost without regard to the taxpayers.

As an article in the Wall Street Journal states, the price of college is likely to increase under the newly signed the Health Care and Education Reconciliation Act of 2010:

As for the cost of college, expect it to become even less affordable as the subsidies keep flowing. The main achievements of this new legislation will be to give more power to government, and to transfer more of the costs and risks of college financing to taxpayers.

Neal McCluskey, associate director of Cato Institute’s Center for Educational Freedom, claims that student aid such as Pell Grants can be detrimental to students and is likely to impede economic growth:

The reality is that student aid drives massive, self-defeating college price inflation, creates ugly bloat and waste in our ivory towers, and ultimately cramps economic growth.

Cato Institute scholar Tad DeHaven summarizes key points against federal subsidies in higher education:

Federal student loan and grant programs have been subject to waste and fraud for decades. The Pell grant program (which SAFRA would enlarge) costs taxpayers hundreds of millions of dollars per year in fraud. Another ongoing problem is the high default rate on student loan programs.

The effect of subsidy programs, in part, is to impose taxes on blue collar workers—who have not attended college—to pay for the tuition of future white-collar professionals. Why should the government subsidize future high earners at the expense of average working people?

Federal student aid programs transfer wealth from taxpayers to academic institutions. That’s because the rise in student subsidies over the decades appears to have fueled inflation in education costs. Tuition and other college costs have soared as subsidies have risen. College cost inflation induced by federal aid probably hurts low-income families—the people that federal aid was supposed to target—more than others.

Ideally, all qualified students should be able to attend an affordable college. It is shameful that an intelligent and high-achieving college student might be forced to drop-out based on their inability to pay the college’s sky-rocketing tuition costs. However, Obama’s plan will not target these rising costs. Massively subsidizing college tuition through taxpayer money only gives colleges less of an incentive to reduce costs and tuition is likely to continue to rise at unprecedented rates.


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Re: "Sallie Mae Blames 2500 Layoffs on Obama's Student Loan Overhaul"
« Reply #13 on: March 31, 2010, 08:14:02 AM »
Great articles 333.  I completely agree, makes a lot of sense.  This president is incrementally forcing more government dependence, which I am against.  We must vote in November to stop this liberal progressive agenda.  This administration hides their agenda under emotional arguments and rhetoric and unfortunately people aren't taking the time to see the future ramifications.

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Re: "Sallie Mae Blames 2500 Layoffs on Obama's Student Loan Overhaul"
« Reply #14 on: March 31, 2010, 08:18:36 AM »
Great articles 333.  I completely agree, makes a lot of sense.  This president is incrementally forcing more government dependence, which I am against.  We must vote in November to stop this liberal progressive agenda.  This administration hides their agenda under emotional arguments and rhetoric and unfortunately people aren't taking the time to see the future ramifications.

100% correct shoot.  They get people all worked up over a few cases:

1.  Evil bankers -            TAKEOVER SCHOOL LOAN INDUSTRY
2.  Evil Insurance Companies -  TAKEOVER HEALTHCARE
3.  Evil oil companies - TAKEOVER ENERGY SECTOR