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« Reply #175 on: April 12, 2010, 01:52:22 AM »
are you a troll because chaos theory is the opposite of what you are saying it is.

 I don't care if the aircraft lands onto your empty head in the night it's evolution then.

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« Reply #176 on: April 12, 2010, 04:51:32 AM »
midwest...family...friends...work...facebook...neighbors...people that come knocking
on my door...people protesting me when i walk out of movies calling me a sinner for
going to a fucking movie...bumper stickers...news...

like i said, fucking everywhere

maybe i should start knocking on peoples doors spreading the word of physics ;D

and to those calling me a coward, ignorant, etc...i rip on christianity because i was brought
up in it...i am allowed to tear into shit that has been a disease during my life

those people are Christian by name, not in the heart.. they don't know the heart of God
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« Reply #177 on: April 12, 2010, 04:58:34 AM »
Does the Bible actually say Jesus is god?

Jesus did not personally say that I AM GOD.. but you will discover his signature in the Bible depicting He is God.
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« Reply #178 on: April 12, 2010, 06:35:07 AM »
Jesus did not personally say that I AM GOD.. but you will discover his signature in the Bible depicting He is God.

John 13:13
"You call me 'Teacher' and 'Lord,' and rightly so, for that is what I am.
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« Reply #179 on: April 12, 2010, 06:46:56 AM »
John 13:13
"You call me 'Teacher' and 'Lord,' and rightly so, for that is what I am.

Allah's words spoken through the profit Jesus Christ - Peace be upon him "I" "Lord" "teacher" refers to God  ;D 
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« Reply #180 on: April 12, 2010, 06:51:23 AM »
Jesus did not personally say that I AM GOD.. but you will discover his signature in the Bible depicting He is God.

I love Jesus (peace be upon him) and his teachings. He gave us a wonderful message from the creator.  ;D
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« Reply #181 on: April 12, 2010, 12:51:26 PM »
John 13:13
"You call me 'Teacher' and 'Lord,' and rightly so, for that is what I am.

Ah yes, ze bible. The ultimate book in science and history. Especially when it's been edited for political reasons. The word of god finds its way to the human kind in weird ways.
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« Reply #182 on: April 12, 2010, 06:47:14 PM »
John 13:13
"You call me 'Teacher' and 'Lord,' and rightly so, for that is what I am.

You see, Jesus was using what other said about Him.. but He never proclaim Himself as "I am God".

but it's so interesting when you read the Bible in the original language (Hebrew and Greek ), you can find Jesus' signature in the beginning of Genesis.

In Revelations Jesus said I am the the Alpha and Omega, The First and The Last.. Alpha and Omega are the first and the last word in Greek but Jesus spoke in Aramaic, which means Aleph Tav. In the Book of Genesis 1:1, in its original language (Hebrew), it says "In the beginning God (Aleph/Tav) created Heavens and the earth"..

It was Jesus who created the Heavens and Earth
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« Reply #183 on: April 12, 2010, 11:35:01 PM »
Who knows? Anyway, a wise Rastafarian in Toronto told me that: "God shows himself and the people think what they want." Not sure if he made it up, or read it.
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« Reply #184 on: April 13, 2010, 05:12:16 AM »
You see, Jesus was using what other said about Him.. but He never proclaim Himself as "I am God".

but it's so interesting when you read the Bible in the original language (Hebrew and Greek ), you can find Jesus' signature in the beginning of Genesis.

In Revelations Jesus said I am the the Alpha and Omega, The First and The Last.. Alpha and Omega are the first and the last word in Greek but Jesus spoke in Aramaic, which means Aleph Tav. In the Book of Genesis 1:1, in its original language (Hebrew), it says "In the beginning God (Aleph/Tav) created Heavens and the earth"..

It was Jesus who created the Heavens and Earth

news flash...just because a book says something doesnt make it so....
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« Reply #185 on: April 13, 2010, 05:44:44 AM »
news flash...just because a book says something doesnt make it so....

well news flash.. just because you're born with a penis doesn't mean it will make you a man

 ;)
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« Reply #186 on: April 13, 2010, 06:26:39 AM »
Allah's words spoken through the profit Jesus Christ - Peace be upon him "I" "Lord" "teacher" refers to God  ;D 

I've never heard this view before. 

As phyxsius said, Jesus does indicate that He is God more than once in the bible.  When Jesus does indicate He is God, do you guys think He is "channeling" Allah each time or something like that?  Do your other prophets also indicate they are God?  Thanks!



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« Reply #187 on: April 13, 2010, 06:43:39 AM »
news flash...just because a book says something doesnt make it so....

Not without the ability to verify the claims being made within.
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« Reply #188 on: April 13, 2010, 07:32:04 AM »
John 13:13
"You call me 'Teacher' and 'Lord,' and rightly so, for that is what I am.

And he said about 100 times he is not god.  ::)

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« Reply #189 on: April 13, 2010, 07:50:43 AM »
Not without the ability to verify the claims being made within.

exactly
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« Reply #190 on: April 13, 2010, 10:00:27 AM »
What kind of treasures?

Read the bible and find out :)

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« Reply #191 on: April 13, 2010, 10:09:13 AM »
Sad that you spend this life waiting for something that will not happen.  :-\

How do you know it will not happen??  If we evolved from monkeys then why are there still monkeys?? For those that believe in evolution.. Everybody isn't going to heaven, thats why there is a hell and Satan that roams the earth to decieve people into not believing but God may give them a second chance soon after death.... It's nobodys choice but yours.. Believe what you want... I'll still be your friend...

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« Reply #192 on: April 13, 2010, 12:48:05 PM »
How do you know it will not happen??  If we evolved from monkeys then why are there still monkeys?? For those that believe in evolution.. Everybody isn't going to heaven, thats why there is a hell and Satan that roams the earth to decieve people into not believing but God may give them a second chance soon after death.... It's nobodys choice but yours.. Believe what you want... I'll still be your friend...

This right here disqualifies you from any serious discussion. Come back when you've actually read any long book.
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« Reply #193 on: April 13, 2010, 01:39:32 PM »
How do you know it will not happen??  If we evolved from monkeys then why are there still monkeys?? For those that believe in evolution.. Everybody isn't going to heaven, thats why there is a hell and Satan that roams the earth to decieve people into not believing but God may give them a second chance soon after death.... It's nobodys choice but yours.. Believe what you want... I'll still be your friend...

Believe? Evolution isn't a belief. It's a scientific theory backed by mountains of empirical evidence that you can verify for yourself.

Believe.


That's funny.


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« Reply #194 on: April 13, 2010, 02:06:34 PM »
causality applies to existence..  its possible for time and space to be infinitie.. maybe they are.. maybe they arent.. but time and space exists! and that is proof of a necessary CAUSE. Everything that happens is completely explainable. If there is something, and there is, then it can be explained.

science is awesome! but it still leaves a mystery.. one only God can fill.

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« Reply #195 on: April 13, 2010, 02:11:04 PM »
causality applies to existence..  its possible for time and space to be infinitie.. maybe they are.. maybe they arent.. but time and space exists! and that is proof of a necessary CAUSE. Everything that happens is completely explainable. If there is something, and there is, then it can be explained.

science is awesome! but it still leaves a mystery.. one only God can fill.

I don't agree with you at all on this but lets grant that there is a god that started it all.. what kind of god is it? Just a prime mover or some omni-potent being?
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« Reply #196 on: April 13, 2010, 02:15:51 PM »
I don't agree with you at all on this but lets grant that there is a god that started it all.. what kind of god is it? Just a prime mover or some omni-potent being?
We can assume God is good(he "chose" to create), God is all powerful(he created), and God is eternal(he is THE creator).

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« Reply #197 on: April 13, 2010, 02:31:55 PM »
We can assume God is good(he "chose" to create), God is all powerful(he created), and God is eternal(he is THE creator).

Aw come on man wth, you're just an ordinary nut job christian in disguise. What a disappointment.

"God is good"

The idea of good is a product of the human mind. What constitutes good also changes over the course of time which makes it even more fallible.
It's irrelevant for a creating deity unless you're a theist.

"God is all powerful"

So you're saying that this creating deity is an omniscient omni-potent being? Does it rule over the universe or just created it?

"God is eternal"

Not even the universe as we know it is eternal since it's heading for nothingness. Not even atoms will remain, only minuscule particles. How can your deity be eternal with all the supposed abilities you ascribe him? How can you possibly prove this without mentioning faith? Could it all possibly be a freak product of your imagination? I believe so.


Just admit that you're a full blown theist and stop with this deist crap.
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« Reply #198 on: April 13, 2010, 03:15:54 PM »
Aw come on man wth, you're just an ordinary nut job christian in disguise. What a disappointment.

"God is good"

The idea of good is a product of the human mind. What constitutes good also changes over the course of time which makes it even more fallible.
It's irrelevant for a creating deity unless you're a theist.

"God is all powerful"

So you're saying that this creating deity is an omniscient omni-potent being? Does it rule over the universe or just created it?

"God is eternal"

Not even the universe as we know it is eternal since it's heading for nothingness. Not even atoms will remain, only minuscule particles. How can your deity be eternal with all the supposed abilities you ascribe him? How can you possibly prove this without mentioning faith? Could it all possibly be a freak product of your imagination? I believe so.


Just admit that you're a full blown theist and stop with this deist crap.

Great post,

there has never been any proof or evidence of a god being here or ever existing, I may be slightly partial to a belief depicted in the movies/books 'Stargate' , 'Contact' and 'Mission to Mars' where thousands or millions of years ago extraterrestrial beings seeded the earth for life and left or moved on to another part of the universe.

But the 'bible' type god that christians and jews believe in, you'd have to be f*cking loony to believe in an imaginary man in the sky that makes everything ok..

initially (during early times) the concept of god was created to exaplin natural phenomena like lightning, rain, thunderstorms, earthquakes, tornadoes, etc. that's all it ever was, unfortunately a select group of people decided to live with their eyes closed and keep believing in emptiness.

Listen to the first minute of this...brilliant..


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« Reply #199 on: April 13, 2010, 05:31:26 PM »
We can assume God is good(he "chose" to create), God is all powerful(he created), and God is eternal(he is THE creator).

creating does not imply good, the rational does not follow. Is the creator of the atomic bomb good? what about the creator of syphillis, herpes, aids, congenital malformities, oh wait thats god. There is no logical connection between good and creation, he could be just as likely evil and created life to watch us suffer. God is all powerfull ie he created does not follow, he could be powerfull enough to create but not all powerfull, there is no logic there. Again why is god exempt from creation but the universe has to be created, the logic does not follow. You are making the rules up as you go with no reasoning besides the word eternal which may or may not exist and is something we can really say nothing about. For instance he created in eternity in this sentence we have a contradiction. Eternity implies no time, creation an act requires something to come before then after, a temporal event, thus the ability to create in eternity makes no sense.

None of gods attributes make sense, they are incompatible with each other.