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Re: Are bodybuilders "athletes"?
« Reply #125 on: April 04, 2010, 11:50:38 AM »
How many golfers can do this ?



I'm proud to say non that I can think of. But in all fairness his legs are about as big as a golfers.

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Re: Are bodybuilders "athletes"?
« Reply #126 on: April 04, 2010, 11:52:27 AM »
I'm proud to say non that I can think of. But in all fairness his legs are about as big as a golfers.
Why the hate Coach ? the kid looks pretty good.

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Re: Are bodybuilders "athletes"?
« Reply #127 on: April 04, 2010, 11:52:55 AM »
is john daly?

finally somebody that actually watches sports (other than bodybuilding) has joined the argument :)

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Yes. His superior hand eye coordination and depth perception proves that. Also, he's competing in an activity that is based on his athletic performance, not the way he looks, which makes what he is doing a sport, not a pageant. The golfer does not win contests based on the look of his form or the mechanics of his swing. He/she succeeds by putting the ball in the hole in the least amount of strokes.

Bodybuilders need to understand that the way one looks has nothing to do with their athletic abilities (in some cases).

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Re: Are bodybuilders "athletes"?
« Reply #128 on: April 04, 2010, 11:57:41 AM »
he's competing in an activity that is based on his athletic performance

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Re: Are bodybuilders "athletes"?
« Reply #129 on: April 04, 2010, 12:02:29 PM »
Yes. His superior hand eye coordination and depth perception proves that. Also, he's competing in an activity that is based on his athletic performance, not the way he looks, which makes what he is doing a sport, not a pageant. The golfer does not win contests based on the look of his form or the mechanics of his swing. He/she succeeds by putting the ball in the hole in the least amount of strokes.

Bodybuilders need to understand that the way one looks has nothing to do with their athletic abilities in some cases.

it takes coordination to pose properly and present the physique in the most positive light, everybody said that paul dillet looked unbeatable when standing relaxed, but looked awkward while posing

it's not major coordination but it should be obvious that some guys pose much better than others, why do most getbiggers look so awkward when they pose?  "ursus" for example, look at his mr. getbig pics if posing is so simple why can't everybody look normal?


just because posing doesn't take as much coordination as shooting a 3 pointer or hitting a curveball doesn't mean it isn't a sport


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Re: Are bodybuilders "athletes"?
« Reply #130 on: April 04, 2010, 12:04:15 PM »
it takes coordination to pose properly and present the physique in the most positive light, everybody said that paul dillet looked unbeatable when standing relaxed, but looked awkward while posing

it's not major coordination but it should be obvious that some guys pose much better than others, why do most getbiggers look so awkward when they pose?  "ursus" for example, look at his mr. getbig pics if posing is so simple why can't everybody look normal?


just because posing doesn't take as much coordination as shooting a 3 pointer or hitting a curveball doesn't mean it isn't a sport


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Thats true, lets make pole dancing a sport too.

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Re: Are bodybuilders "athletes"?
« Reply #131 on: April 04, 2010, 12:08:00 PM »
it takes coordination to pose properly and present the physique in the most positive light, everybody said that paul dillet looked unbeatable when standing relaxed, but looked awkward while posing

it's not major coordination but it should be obvious that some guys pose much better than others, why do most getbiggers look so awkward when they pose?  "ursus" for example, look at his mr. getbig pics if posing is so simple why can't everybody look normal?


just because posing doesn't take as much coordination as shooting a 3 pointer or hitting a curveball doesn't mean it isn't a sport


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You make sense. Your argument is coherent and well thought out. My point: Bodybuilding is not judged on athletic competition. It's judged on how you look, which makes it a pageant and not a sport.

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Re: Are bodybuilders "athletes"?
« Reply #132 on: April 04, 2010, 12:18:01 PM »
You make sense. Your argument is coherent and well thought out. My point: Bodybuilding is not judged on athletic competition. It's judged on how you look, which makes it a pageant and not a sport.

it is somewhat, why are some bodybuilders dropping out in the middle of the show?

paul dillet again, he couldn't physically make it through the 94 arnold :)

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Re: Are bodybuilders "athletes"?
« Reply #133 on: April 04, 2010, 12:55:27 PM »
Thats true, lets make pole dancing a sport too.

LOL! Well played. Very well played.

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Re: Are bodybuilders "athletes"?
« Reply #134 on: April 04, 2010, 12:59:31 PM »
You really think the training of bodybuilders is anywhere close to the training of endurance athletes?

What I meant was what a bodybuilder has to do to themselves to get in that kind of shape. The physical abuse. With the exception of professional wrestling I can't think of a more unhealthy sport..., err, activity than bodybuilding. They kill themselves trying to look strong and healthy.

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Re: Are bodybuilders "athletes"?
« Reply #135 on: April 04, 2010, 01:05:30 PM »
it is somewhat, why are some bodybuilders dropping out in the middle of the show?

paul dillet again, he couldn't physically make it through the 94 arnold :)

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That's true. Lot's of people drop out of events that require athleticism. That doesn't make them pro athletes.

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Re: Are bodybuilders "athletes"?
« Reply #136 on: April 04, 2010, 01:06:28 PM »
You know, this just got me thinking. I've always considered professional wrestlers as being athletes but I don't consider professional wrestling a sport. I think sometimes we conflate being athletic with being an athlete.

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Re: Are bodybuilders "athletes"?
« Reply #137 on: April 04, 2010, 01:06:45 PM »
What I meant was what a bodybuilder has to do to themselves to get in that kind of shape. The physical abuse. With the exception of professional wrestling I can't think of a more unhealthy sport..., err, activity than bodybuilding. They kill themselves trying to look strong and healthy.

That might mean they lack intelligence. Drug users kill themselves to achieve a high, does that make them athletes too since they beat the shit out of their body?

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Re: Are bodybuilders "athletes"?
« Reply #138 on: April 04, 2010, 01:10:59 PM »
Bodybuilding is in the spirit of athleticism - you build strength, muscle and lose fat, typical physical attributes of athleticism.
It does not classify nicely as the other sports, but, I am confortable calling it a sport and I don't quite see what the big deal over it is.



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Re: Are bodybuilders "athletes"?
« Reply #139 on: April 04, 2010, 01:13:43 PM »
That's true. Lot's of people drop out of events that require athleticism. That doesn't make them pro athletes.

doesn't make them non athletes either

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Re: Are bodybuilders "athletes"?
« Reply #140 on: April 04, 2010, 01:14:12 PM »
it takes coordination to pose properly and present the physique in the most positive light, everybody said that paul dillet looked unbeatable when standing relaxed, but looked awkward while posing

it's not major coordination but it should be obvious that some guys pose much better than others, why do most getbiggers look so awkward when they pose?  "ursus" for example, look at his mr. getbig pics if posing is so simple why can't everybody look normal?


just because posing doesn't take as much coordination as shooting a 3 pointer or hitting a curveball doesn't mean it isn't a sport


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Re: Are bodybuilders "athletes"?
« Reply #141 on: April 04, 2010, 01:14:54 PM »
You know, this just got me thinking. I've always considered professional wrestlers as being athletes but I don't consider professional wrestling a sport. I think sometimes we conflate being athletic with being an athlete.

pro wrestling isn't a competition

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Re: Are bodybuilders "athletes"?
« Reply #142 on: April 04, 2010, 01:17:27 PM »
YES JUST LIKE MISS AMERICA   thank you for proving my point

where is the physical exertion in miss america?

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Re: Are bodybuilders "athletes"?
« Reply #143 on: April 04, 2010, 01:17:39 PM »
it is somewhat, why are some bodybuilders dropping out in the middle of the show?

paul dillet again, he couldn't physically make it through the 94 arnold :)

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that was called due to drugs and cramping from direutics


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Re: Are bodybuilders "athletes"?
« Reply #144 on: April 04, 2010, 01:19:26 PM »
doesn't make them non athletes either

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Correct, however, in a bodybuilders case, they are not an athlete because they are judged on the way the look, not their athletic performance.

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Re: Are bodybuilders "athletes"?
« Reply #145 on: April 04, 2010, 01:20:34 PM »
Bodybuilding is in the spirit of athleticism - you build strength, muscle and lose fat, typical physical attributes of athleticism.
It does not classify nicely as the other sports, but, I am confortable calling it a sport and I don't quite see what the big deal over it is.




Huh? The Spirit of athleticism? A sport is defined by athletic competition that decides a winner based on performance. Not by how you look. BB is not a sport.


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Re: Are bodybuilders "athletes"?
« Reply #146 on: April 04, 2010, 01:21:40 PM »
Correct, however, in a bodybuilders case, they are not an athlete because they are judged on the way the look, not their athletic performance.

they aren't just standing there being judged, they need to proper posing skills to show off their body

i don't see a person that walks like they have two left feet ever being a good poser

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Re: Are bodybuilders "athletes"?
« Reply #147 on: April 04, 2010, 01:22:20 PM »
where is the physical exertion in miss america?

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holding your breath and making your muscle hard is I guess a form of physical exertion. But being a mover, person who digs holes, loads trucks, and many other "jobs" require much more physical exertion than what a BB displays on stage.  
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Re: Are bodybuilders "athletes"?
« Reply #148 on: April 04, 2010, 01:22:44 PM »
Huh? The Spirit of athleticism? A sport is defined by athletic competition that decides a winner based on performance. Not by how you look. BB is not a sport.

is that your definition or the dictionary?

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Re: Are bodybuilders "athletes"?
« Reply #149 on: April 04, 2010, 01:23:38 PM »
is that your definition or the dictionary?

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Mine. I don't always believe what I read.